Poll: So, how many of us are actually a little disappointed?

[EightGaugeHippo]

So, we all wanted Microsoft to get rid of the DRM in the first place.
And now we got what we wanted, but we don't like that because we wanted to watch it crash and burn aswell.
In all fairness, we gamers as a community are really fucking difficult to please.

Be happy that we did some good by being so vocal about our opinion. There's one less piece of hideously designed DRM in the world and we know that MS is willing to listen to reason. Be proud of that.

 

[Uriain]

Did not want, and still do not want them to "crash and burn". Their policies were introduced VERY poorly, and then muddled/mishandled on the clarification phase. They shot them selves in the foot with the mis-managment of their message then cut their nose off to spite their face (removing everything) instead of producing a complete and clear message about each piece.

Now, even if they did make it clear what was going to happen, people could have still been opposed to it.

The reason I don't want them to crash is because if Xbox "goes down" then Sony will start getting lazy, and we will see less forward momentum from them on the stuff we want, like their Gaikai servers to stream older games, their cloud based servies they talked about etc..

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

I honestly don't care.

A stupid policy that already exists is still a stupid policy to the very end.

I haven't seen anything that would make me consider getting an Xbox One (unless they decide to make Call of Duty an exclusive from now on, which is very unlikely).

 

[The_Lost_King]

I'm only disappointed because it makes my decision hard again. Used games and available to play in a rural area (with poor or no internet connection) is very important to me, so that made the PS4 a no-brainer. Now I actually have to weigh the pros and cons of each...grrrrr thinking.

I'll make your decision easy again. Developers on xbox can make stuff run on the cloud which will make it so you have to be connected to the internet to play it, even if it is singleplayer.

OT: I am disapointed. I wanted to see the xbox division burn in hell for trying to do this to the consumer, for trying to take all rights of ownership away from us.

 

[Eggsnham]

Yes, a little bit.

If only because I wanted to see what lengths the hardcore fanboys would go to defend Microsoft's shitty business practices.

 

[Woodsey]

I am quite disappointed. I liked the idea of being able to buy a disc, install it, and never worry about that disc again. I liked the idea of giving up to 10 friends access to my entire library. I liked that my games would roam with me from console to console without lugging a bunch of discs around.

Thanks a lot, internet. This is why we can't have nice things.

They could do all of that without the crap they were going to make you put up with. And come off it, obviously they're not going to let you share one game with 10 fucking friends. That's more than your average pirate shares.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yes! I wanted to see the Xbox Done burn. I wanted to see Microsoft receive just punishment for being so mind-numbingly stupid. Punishment for putting the needs of Publishers ahead of the needs of consumers; consumers who are incidentally the primary source of the profits they value so much.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

I'm completely indifferent towards this. Though I must say, I find it amusing to watch the consoles market muck about, thinking it has the same rights PC has, only to watch their little scheme get them nothing but nasty backlash. We tolerate Steam's DRM because it actually has really good benefits and doesn't screw us over. Steam sales, free games, achievements, a thriving community, buying for a friend service, we have it all. And we can play any game from any given era, provided we've upgraded our machines accordingly.

One of the very few real advantages the consoles have over a PC, is 'plug and play', no fucking about with installment menu's, just plug it in and off ye go. When they try to get the consumer on a leash by making them log in and stuff like that, just to police them around, I can see why people are rioting. What the hell were they thinking?

Dearest console gamers, switch over entirely to PC! I mean, it's pretty much obvious that Microsoft hates console gamers, but is rather kind to the PC gaming master race :') eventhough windows isn't all that great. At least untill Microsoft and Sony have shown that they are prepared to truly change.

 

[Meatspinner]

As much as i would like to see Microsoft fall on it's ass. I don't wan't to see a Sony monopoly

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

You can still do those things. They didn't drop any of the connectivity features. What they did was drop the restrictions on who you can share with and how many people you can share with, stopped mandated call-ins every 24 hours, basically, they dropped the consumer control nonsense. Exactly none of those things require the control over the end user Microsoft originally planned. So, on behalf of the internet, you're welcome for the improvement to your product. If we complain enough, with enough focus, sometimes we do get nice things.

Now the disc has to be inserted if you want to play. The 10-friend library sharing feature has been removed. Disc-based games are no longer added to your online library so they can roam with you. All of that functionality is gone, because you people couldn't deal with connecting the console to the internet.

1.) couldn't deal with having to constantly do that when I went to my console NOT to be online like I am with steam. That was the one benefit console had over Steam.

2.) The 10 friend library thing wasn't even completely confirmed by anyone. We have many differing oaccounts of what it COULD be. Not to be insulting, but should we be that tethered to an idea of what it COULD have been? couldn't we as easily tether ourselves to the idea that it was a one hour tech demo?

 

[Rob Robson]

Not really disappointed, damage is already done and nobody I know are interested in it anymore anyway.

 

[Miss G.]

When did wanting other people to fail become cool?

If you're legitimately disappointed that someone changed something and made it better... grow up.

We want them to fail as to be an example to other anti-consumer companies that this is many steps over the line and we will NOT stand for it.

They only changed because of poor pre-orders in comparison to Sony. They had crunched the numbers before-hand, thought they could take the hit and still be in the black and went full-steam ahead. Clearly they planned for little to no backlash, not anything near the amount that they got for this nonsense and had to do SOMETHING drastic. However, once they have your money they have the right to switch those terrible things back on because more than likely no one dense enough to buy this (for reasons other than review work 'cuz it's their job) is gonna read carefully through the EULA. And don't forget that the DRM infrastructure is still in the system and requires a Day1 patch to turn it off, meaning a Day-whenever patch is all they need to bring it back when you least expect it.

Right now Microsoft is playing the part of the abusive spouse saying 'he'll change' just because we finally got the backbone to leave him and now the rest of us are waiting for that other shoe to drop. There's no way/ no reason for us to "grow-up" from that.

 

[MorganL4]

Well, I live in Seattle, and in Seattle, in order for our local economy to do well people need to stay employed at Microsoft. So yeah, I want them to succeed so that my hometown doesn't end up like Detroit after the automobile collapse.

 

[doomed89]

Yeah I'm disappointed, I wanted MS to be replaced this console gen, but thinking about it with Nintendo as weak as they are it really isn't the right time, Nintendo needs to have a decent console with good games to support competition to keep the bs policies down before MS can be kicked out of the console business, maybe at the end of the gen they'll drop out, only time will tell. I mean Sony already slipped in the charging for online play into the ps4, and nobody is even mad about it because MS and Nintendo are doing so much worse, and it's not like the ps4 is particularly great, feature wise or even game wise either, it's more mediocre but again the other two are so much worse it doesn't matter. Nintendo needs to get their asses in gear, MS needs to die and a another company needs to enter the console race.

 

[Evonisia]

I didn't want to see Microsoft or the Xbox One crash so I'm not dissapointed. Mostly just because Microsoft isn't as bad as all the hate on them and the Sony fanboys would suggest.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Playstation 4, Xbox One and WiiU are gonna be crap in the short term and represent something negative for gaming as a whole. I think I have this mindset because people are praising Sony as gods when really all they've done is upgrade the PS3 with some new things and took a few Xbox 360 features like Party Chat.

Besides if Microsoft/Xbox One crashed we'd be down a major console this gen, stuck between the PS460 and the Wii U and gaming would lose out on millions of dollars.

 

[Do4600]

I want the industry to crash and burn and reset itself, why? Because it needs to learn a fucking lesson and the only way that will happen is if their money is in terrifying mortal peril. The industry is in a state right now where they expect to make money no matter what they do, and what they are trying to do right now is:

Make games that require 5 million copies sold to even turn a profit.

Be able to watch their customers at all times.

Be able to sell minimum content for a premium.

Be able to charge for multiplayer that uses the consumers' systems as the host.

And sell out space for advertising.

Develop useless gadgets that we are required to pay for in the system's cost.

Prevent any non-proprietary applications.

and the list could go on, and on, and on, and on.

The Xbox One isn't about exclusive games, it's about exclusive television, exclusive advertisements, exclusive broadcasts, exclusive web content.

Microsoft was making the Xbox One to allow them the greatest opportunity in marketing the world has ever known. They wanted to start a proprietary media company where they own all the rights and all the access and all the profit.

Microsoft is piggy-backing this on top of a successful game console, but they are less interested in the games and more interested in the revenue from "Halo: The Television Series" it's not a bonus, it's what they're banking on, that's why they want everybody to have broadband and that's why they wanted to have daily internet checks, so that the console is useless unless you expose yourself to their content and pay a cover charge.

And I just want video games. That's why I wanted the One to burn, because it's a Trojan horse to sell you everything you don't want but will have to put up with if you want to play those video games. It's like having a date with a smart, beautiful woman but she won't go out with you unless she can bring her fat, smelly, loud brother along.

I want that not to be okay in this industry anymore, I don't want to have to take the bad being forced on me with the good anymore, I want the good, only the good.

 

[Do4600]

idea that it was a one hour tech demo?

Actually, that was just confirmed:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.819460-Poll-Heartbroken-Microsoft-Employee-Explains-How-Family-Sharing-Would-Have-Worked

"When your family member accesses any of your games, they're placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to. When the time limit was up they would automatically be prompted to the Marketplace so that they may order it if liked the game."

Nothing Microsoft touches is altruistic.

 

[Resetti's_Replicas]

Competition keeps the industry healthy, I'm glad they got their ducks in a row. Thousands of jobs could've been lost and we don't want that to happen now of all times.

 

[doodles]

I wanted them to burn in theory. For one main reason, console users appear to be some of the most short sighted individuals around and having their choices stuck between only Sony and Nintendo would make me laugh. Especially when they realise that Sony is just as evil and without a proper competitor what will the consolers do? not play games? Switch to pc? I wonder what they think steam is.

I guess the console generation is too young to remember when it was only At&t.

Also as a purely pc gamer I dont see what the heck the big deal was(other than the kinect though if you have ever used a laptop with a webcam on the front for any period of time it feels a bit overracty). I only get games that I can guarantee are good and dont recall the last time I have sold a game I own. I suppose I dont understand the console subculture. Though from what I gather they on a whole appear to be poor consumers who primarily use the ability to resell bad games to recoup investments instead of proper research.

The console users should be thankful all the major publishers dont get together and require the drm anyways instead of the console itself. Which iirc is a very silent area thus far in regards to the newer console games.