Poll: So how'd you like Netflix's Death Note movie?

[Imre Csete]

I think the original work is one of the most overrated edgy teen appeal to the max piece of fiction ever to grace the world, even by Japanese standards.

That said I'm gonna watch it with my weeb buddies while getting drunk this Friday. With my below zero expectations, I might even enjoy it.

 

[Natemans]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

Its not a horror movie nor is it scary. They do make it a gorefest, but in the vein of Final Destination.

 

[Natemans]

I thought it was just godawful

 

[Queen Michael]

It's... the best film adaption of an anime series we've gotten yet. That's not a good thing.

There are a zillion better film adaptations of anime. First there are all the ones that Japan makes--several ones every year, and many are better.

And let's say we only count the live-action adaptations, and not the animated movies. There are still many better ones.

And let's say we only count American live-action flicks. There are still some better ones.

And let's say we only count American flicks released this year. Ghost in the Shell was slightly better, IMO.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

L narrows it down to Seattle when he realises that some of these mysterious deaths (none are simple heart attacks, Light gives them elaborate, flashy ones) originated in the Seattle area, relating to crimes reported on the local news there. L went so far as to feed people to kill, putting the bait in regions where he suspected Light was based, to narrow it down further. He realises only someone with access to police records could have made some of the kills, and when all the FBI agents on the case are killed except Light's dad, it becomes obvious.

Seems a bit more logicial than how it was in the anime because I swear L came up with the answers out of his ass.

Than again did Light in the Anime killed Law Enforcement Agents at the start of it? Its been awhile since I watched the show.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Ok now how does the name "Kira" ended up being spoken all over the place as the man responsible for all these deaths?

Did Light purposely gave away that the deaths were actually the responsiblility of a person? Why would he do that, and that is something I forgot how in the anime aswell?

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Seems a bit more logicial than how it was in the anime because I swear L came up with the answers out of his ass.

Than again did Light in the Anime killed Law Enforcement Agents at the start of it? Its been awhile since I watched the show.

He did, but he did it in a way that had one of the FBI officers, Raye Penber, fill the names of the FBI director and FBI agents on a page of the Death Note. Light did this by creating a paper overlay on the page itself with all of the ways to kill and other instructions hidden with the names waiting to be filled in. By doing this, everyone died at once, including Raye at the end. And the instructions said for the FBI director to send specific case information to every other agent to make it more complicated for the police, since everyone had the same information as each other.

L tied the link of Raye's death to Light because Raye was tailing Light, and the page of the Death Note in an envelope Raye was carrying went missing after his death, where it was clearly visible in transit cameras beforehand. Light pretty much incriminated himself, because if he left Raye to live for that day alone, the trail would've gone cold.

The way they did the logic in the 2017 movie made plenty of sense. They condensed the FBI officer angle with his dad, and by having his dad go on TV... Light would have to kill him to save his own ass, or have Misa do it (Like she tried to). But he didn't want to, because of obvious reasons. Though I don't like this as much as the anime, because near the end it becomes clear Light doesn't care as much if his dad needs to die. Of course he cares, it's his dad. But at the end, it's all "I'm still not being caught, so, fuck it."

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Even with the power to kill anyone with a thought, you can still be in danger of being discovered by the authorities.

 

[Queen Michael]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

I don't think you understand the full extent of my memory's crapness.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

I don't think you understand the full extent of my memory's crapness.

Indeed. Is it serious?

 

[balladbird]

Guyver, Speed Racer, and Fist of the North Star.

Ah! I did forget about Speed Racer. tragically maligned adaption, as it were. Have to agree to disagree with regards to the Fist of the North Star adaption, though

There are a zillion better film adaptations of anime. First there are all the ones that Japan makes--several ones every year, and many are better.

And let's say we only count the live-action adaptations, and not the animated movies. There are still many better ones.

And let's say we only count American live-action flicks. There are still some better ones.

Yeah, I was referring to american film adaptions, a detail I was loathe to forget to mention above. I'll edit my post.

And let's say we only count American flicks released this year. Ghost in the Shell was slightly better, IMO.

hmm... not sure I'd agree. the GitS movie let me down a bit more, if only because the property they were adapting from was something closer to my heart. As to how they would compare just as movies, I'll have to watch the GitS remake again to be sure, since I haven't seen it since it launched.

 

[maninahat]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

L narrows it down to Seattle when he realises that some of these mysterious deaths (none are simple heart attacks, Light gives them elaborate, flashy ones) originated in the Seattle area, relating to crimes reported on the local news there. L went so far as to feed people to kill, putting the bait in regions where he suspected Light was based, to narrow it down further. He realises only someone with access to police records could have made some of the kills, and when all the FBI agents on the case are killed except Light's dad, it becomes obvious.

Seems a bit more logicial than how it was in the anime because I swear L came up with the answers out of his ass.

Than again did Light in the Anime killed Law Enforcement Agents at the start of it? Its been awhile since I watched the show.

I think it was something similar in the anime, though in the movie L is quicker to determine it was Light.

The main difference is that in the movie, the agents dying wasn't Light's plan at all, and he's much more conflicted about killing innocent people (as well as his own dad). Anime Light's situation ends up differently because he has no bones about killing cops, whilst Misa was already trying to kill Light's dad.

 

[Queen Michael]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

I don't think you understand the full extent of my memory's crapness.

Indeed. Is it serious?

Lemme put it this way: A while back, I bought a packet of cookies and put it in the pantry. Less than ten minutes later, I opened the pantry, saw the cookies, and thought "Wow! Cookies! Where'd they come from?"

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

It's... the best film adaption of an anime series we've gotten yet.

No, it's not, it's not even in the top 5.

Some better ones:

Guyver, Speed Racer, and Fist of the North Star.

As much as I hate to say it but I gotta agree with Zontar there.

Speed Racer is a pretty damn brilliant flick and Death Note doesn't hold a candle to it. It's also secretly the best movie the Wachowski Sister's have ever made. Matrix is and always has been obscenely overrated, deal with it. Speed Racer doesn't only have groundbreaking effects and one of the most imaginative setting in fantasy movie history, it was also smart enough to realize that just because your plot is fairly simple doesn't mean you have to rush through it with no time to let anything sink in.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

I don't think you understand the full extent of my memory's crapness.

Indeed. Is it serious?

Lemme put it this way: A while back, I bought a packet of cookies and put it in the pantry. Less than ten minutes later, I opened the pantry, saw the cookies, and thought "Wow! Cookies! Where'd they come from?"

Do you even remember the 3943 mangas you have read?

 

[COMaestro]

I thought the Death Note movie was okay. Not good, but not bad either. Definitely not as good as the original work, especially when trying to cram an elaborate cat-and-mouse game into a 90 minute window. They failed horribly at that. Everything felt rushed or just overly convenient (such as the use of Watari mentioned above). Dafoe's Ryuk was definitely the best part of the film, followed by L's actor.

Light was just a moron in this movie though. The only real brilliance he exhibited was at the end of the film, and even that was somewhat ruined due to the fact his name was written in a book still in his control, meaning he could have removed his name from it himself and not had to worry about Mia's threat rather than go to the extreme lengths he went through to set up the final scenario. But at least it was clever and the only time Light seemed to be steps ahead of his opposition.

Spoiler

Though it still made no sense as the rules given said only one name could be burned from the book to cancel the death and at this time both Light and Mia's names were in it, so one of them would have died whether she took the Note from him or not!

Otherwise it was like, "Hey, I've known you for five minutes, want to see my magical death dealing book?" There was no care in hiding the note, as he's reading it openly in the gym for anyone to see. He came up with the name Kira himself and had a bunch of inmates scrawl it all over the walls of their cells before dying, which confirmed that there was someone orchestrating these deaths. He should have been so much better. Trying to make him sympathetic to the audience by giving him lines he did not want to cross and making him a bullied average student was a disservice to the material. A ruthless genius Light would have been more entertaining to watch.

 

[Queen Michael]

Anyway I haven't seen it yet, but how did the movie handle this part?

Spoiler

In the anime we get the montage sequence of Light using the Death Note for the first time to Mass Murder a dozen extremely "evil" criminals in the prisons of the country by giving them all heart attacks, how did the authorities end up thinking that someone was responsible for this and their eyes ended up being fixed on Light as the prime suspect? I ask because I don't see L in this movie?

I honestly think the people who made this where given a very poor description of the general idea of the source material, because it seems it was pitched as an intentionally not scary horror movie gore fest instead of anything relating to what the actual source material had to offer.

So they made it as a Scary Horror Gorefest Movie?

L is in this movie. he's the black guy from the trailers.

Ok than how did they end up pointing the finger at Light being the suspect?

You're asking two questions here.

First, you ask how the government figures out that the deaths aren't natural. The answer, as far as I remember (my memory is shite) is partly that so many criminals die in such a very short span of time, and partly that the deaths are very strange and unnatural. See, in this version people don't die from heart attacks by default. You always have to pick a type of death that you want. And the first sign of foul play is when an armed criminal, who's taken his ex-wife hostage, lets her go, does a military salute and shoots himself, all for no apparent reason.

Then, you're asking how they know that it's Light who did it. Well, Light's dad goes on TV and says he'll stop Kira, but doesn't get killed. So all L has to do is ask himself who'd want to spare this particular law enforcement official despite killing FBI agents before. The answer is obviously "His only family member, his son Light.)

I just saw it, he did not shoot himself, a freakin SWAT truck ran him over?

How could you possibly misremember that?!

I don't think you understand the full extent of my memory's crapness.

Indeed. Is it serious?

Lemme put it this way: A while back, I bought a packet of cookies and put it in the pantry. Less than ten minutes later, I opened the pantry, saw the cookies, and thought "Wow! Cookies! Where'd they come from?"

Do you even remember the 3943 mangas you have read?

Only about 3745 of them.

 

[COMaestro]

Oh, forgot to mention, for the last ten minutes of the film alone, the musical director should be fired.
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Out of a cannon. Into New Jersey.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Seems a bit more logicial than how it was in the anime because I swear L came up with the answers out of his ass.

Than again did Light in the Anime killed Law Enforcement Agents at the start of it? Its been awhile since I watched the show.

He did, but he did it in a way that had one of the FBI officers, Raye Penber, fill the names of the FBI director and FBI agents on a page of the Death Note. Light did this by creating a paper overlay on the page itself with all of the ways to kill and other instructions hidden with the names waiting to be filled in. By doing this, everyone died at once, including Raye at the end. And the instructions said for the FBI director to send specific case information to every other agent to make it more complicated for the police, since everyone had the same information as each other.

L tied the link of Raye's death to Light because Raye was tailing Light, and the page of the Death Note in an envelope Raye was carrying went missing after his death, where it was clearly visible in transit cameras beforehand. Light pretty much incriminated himself, because if he left Raye to live for that day alone, the trail would've gone cold.

The way they did the logic in the 2017 movie made plenty of sense. They condensed the FBI officer angle with his dad, and by having his dad go on TV... Light would have to kill him to save his own ass, or have Misa do it (Like she tried to). But he didn't want to, because of obvious reasons. Though I don't like this as much as the anime, because near the end it becomes clear Light doesn't care as much if his dad needs to die. Of course he cares, it's his dad. But at the end, it's all "I'm still not being caught, so, fuck it."

Regarding the Anime, how did Light end up being tailed by Raye Penber in the first place?