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I like how the word "need" is thrown about when talking about products. Before the iPad came out, I really really needed such a product. I was dying for it. Luckily the iPad came out and fulfilled my needs. It was quite fortuitous as I was going to die the week after it came out! Thank God for Apple.
Oh yes the future products I need:
A phone or a relay of a few phones that can double up as projectors and speakers, so that anywhere I or my friends are, if there is a flat surface, we can sit down and watch a move on it. The other phones will double as the 5.1/7.1 sound.
A telescope for my phone. Seriously who doesn't need one of these?
A device that collects my darts for me, so I don't have to pick them up. I also need a device to picks up tennis balls too.
I need a device that can display holographics like Star Wars.
Oh yes the future products I need:
A phone or a relay of a few phones that can double up as projectors and speakers, so that anywhere I or my friends are, if there is a flat surface, we can sit down and watch a move on it. The other phones will double as the 5.1/7.1 sound.
A telescope for my phone. Seriously who doesn't need one of these?
A device that collects my darts for me, so I don't have to pick them up. I also need a device to picks up tennis balls too.
I need a device that can display holographics like Star Wars.
Why do poll results always give me the finger? Sigh.
It was discovered in the mid 30s that exposure to asbestos could lead to many lung diseases such as mesothelioma and lung cancer. The U.S. government and the enormous asbestos industry decided that this discovery wasn't something that the public needed to know about. They actively suppressed knowledge of these diseases, opposed further cancer research, and then continued to use the stuff in everything from homes to war submarines until the late 70s, when the knowledge of the substance's lethality began to surface. Of course by then the damage was already done.
I guess the point I'm making here is that capitalism can be a real dick sometimes.
Sure someone might discover a cure for cancer, perhaps someone already has, either way we'll probably never hear about it. Such a discovery would be terrible business for drug manufacturers.
It was discovered in the mid 30s that exposure to asbestos could lead to many lung diseases such as mesothelioma and lung cancer. The U.S. government and the enormous asbestos industry decided that this discovery wasn't something that the public needed to know about. They actively suppressed knowledge of these diseases, opposed further cancer research, and then continued to use the stuff in everything from homes to war submarines until the late 70s, when the knowledge of the substance's lethality began to surface. Of course by then the damage was already done.
I guess the point I'm making here is that capitalism can be a real dick sometimes.
Sure someone might discover a cure for cancer, perhaps someone already has, either way we'll probably never hear about it. Such a discovery would be terrible business for drug manufacturers.
I'm skeptical. There's no need to deliberately cut features, to deliberately downgrade hardware. The march of technology will naturally make their gadget obsolete within a couple years even if they didn't do that.
Then again, kind of explains why the iphone took what, three generations before getting copy and paste functionality?
Still waiting on the keyboard, too.
Then again, kind of explains why the iphone took what, three generations before getting copy and paste functionality?
Still waiting on the keyboard, too.
Well get ready to buy the second, third or fourth addition coming since that one right there is incomplete, apparently.Aris Khandr said:
While a Macbook allows you to get a bunch of media editing programs, a Ipad doesn't have a lot that is unique to it that a competitor can't out fox. Honestly, you might as well wait until they have the best version out there, since it will cost less then buying every one coming after the first.
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Not surprising, its a great buisness choice. Make your products come fast and slightly incomplete to make the best bang for your bck.
Business is business, but yet when it comes to computers like the iPads it pisses me off. If they are going to make an outdated product on purpose it should come with an outdated price.
I thought this topic was going to be more of things that have a shelf life. Like lets you make a razor that never dulls. You can use that same razor for the rest of your life as long as it doesn't break. The company would go bankrupt because no one is buying their product. They already have it. That is something I approve, you can't ask a company to drive themselves knowingly into bankruptcy any more than to ask someone to kill themselves.
Apple on the other hand could of started with the iPad 3 and still would of made a damn good profit. Then they could of put people on researching better App organization, better accessories, instead of being able to just drift down the "lazy river" for 3 years.
I thought this topic was going to be more of things that have a shelf life. Like lets you make a razor that never dulls. You can use that same razor for the rest of your life as long as it doesn't break. The company would go bankrupt because no one is buying their product. They already have it. That is something I approve, you can't ask a company to drive themselves knowingly into bankruptcy any more than to ask someone to kill themselves.
Apple on the other hand could of started with the iPad 3 and still would of made a damn good profit. Then they could of put people on researching better App organization, better accessories, instead of being able to just drift down the "lazy river" for 3 years.
Remember when if you had 32MB of RAM, you'd never have to upgrade your computer again? I'm going to make a leaping assumption that 94 corresponds to your DoB. Oh god, is this what it feels like to be old???Matthew94 said:
OT: It's not really unethical. If people want to keep buying the new gizmos then let them. I'm more a work it til it breaks kind of guy. I have plenty of new stuff, but not before making do with older things until it reaches its final hour. I still have my 20GB Creative Zen brick, works like a charm.
Sure. They make overpriced, crappy products and use aggressive marketing aimed at pretentious, computer illiterate people to put a strangehold on the market. My only consolation is that Android devices have finally come along, and in a beautiful move, wiped out a huge percentage of Apple's stake on the smartphone market (which is their biggest money maker, by far). About time we got some quality competitors to put Apple in their place. Although, I doubt they're too phased yet, since they likely have more money than all of the USA.Zen Toombs said:
HAHA! I didn't even see that till you mentioned it.OlasDAlmighty said:
For a company? Yeah, it is ethical. They're not working on the same form of ethics as you or me, whats ethical to them is making a profit for their shareholders and making something with limited technology while saving the "big guns" for the next release is perfect for them.
There are some companies out there who work off making the best things they can but that's a lot more of a risk than just the "Well leave that out till the next version" practice. Some companies don't really have an excuse anymore since they've gotten into multiple areas for profit now though.
No, I live in a house.Wushu Panda said:
And I work in business, albeit the retail industry and as such I haven't seen this aspect of manufacturing. So of course I found it shocking, I didn't think a company could deliberately outdate their own products every year and still manage to trade without someone taking a step back from buying their "new" product and thinking, "hang on a second, is this wrong for a company to extort me by deliberately making my current bit of tech unfashionable and outdated just so they can make more money?"
I mean people rant about games being released yearly with little to no real additions and that costs, what, £40? I'm talking about tech that costs literally 10 times that, why does nobody care?
Of course it's not ethical, you are exploiting people for money. That said, it's not that bad, particularly not in the way you described since buyers are made aware of the specs of the machine and know what they are paying for. However, many people(myself included) believe that many things are designed to break after a certain amount of use, and that is much worse because the consumer can't know that his X is designed to intentionally break at some point. With computers, at least you know that those parts will soon be obsolete beforehand.
It does make sense from an ethical standpoint in a situation where including all of the features would make the product too expensive, so they hold them out until the product is established - minimizes risk for them, maximizes folks who buy the product.
This is why I don't buy tech until it's been established for a few years.
This is why I don't buy tech until it's been established for a few years.