The awkward pointlesness disturbs me.
But I don't care, I don't even give a shit about spider man movies after the third one.
But I don't care, I don't even give a shit about spider man movies after the third one.
That was different, he is still the original Nick Fury just in this universe just he is black, he isn't some replacement brought in after a white Nick Fury died. Also this was introduced at the start of the ultimate universe, not after 11 years of comics establishing the current Ult. Spiderman.DustyDrB said:Edit: Didn't they do this with Nick Fury as well? I don't remember too many people complaining about that.
True that, but they didn't make Nick Fury as many minorites as possible just for attention.DustyDrB said:Ultimate isn't part of the main story right? And all that should really matter is the quality of the writing. I understand people cringing at this maybe being a kind of comic book affirmative action, but they'll come around as long as the writing holds up.
Edit: Didn't they do this with Nick Fury as well? I don't remember too many people complaining about that.
And we've already had a Mexican one, since 2099, but it seems like they're trying to make him as much as a minority as they can.Spider-Man said:The real reason Jameson hates me... is because I'm black! ....................................... Kidding. Sorry.
I think replacing a doe-eyed nice guy who loses his innocence in front of our eyes with a spiky-haired preppie is a much, much worse offense than making him a mulatto. Besides, mixed race Peter Parker is going to make some beautiful babies with Mary Jane, so they'll reach "sexy age" right around the time I reach creepy old man age.metal eslaved said:Okay let explain first marvel comics has 2 universes the 616(the regular one)and the ultimate, in the ultimate universe peter parker(spiderman) died about a month ago, today have been revealed that his successor is half black, half hispanic Miles Morales.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1185446p1.html
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=379006
so what the problem? that comics fan have pretty much gone nuts over this.Some say that this is good thing and other say that this is bullshit and killing peter parker just to put a black person as spiderman is wrong.
oh and before somebody ask dead in the ultimate universe is permanent so far.
I think the people saying that it doesn't matter since the mainstream Spider-Man is still Peter are all missing the point. I can't speak for everyone who hates this change, but personally I just don't like that this is a character we have never seen or heard of, and is only being made black/hispanic in order to be ethnically diverse- something that even black and hispanic people are groaning over in these comments. While I don't personally like having characters 'taking up the mantle' in comic (With some exceptions), I technically have nothing against a Spider-Man who isn't Peter Parker, or a Spider-Man who isn't white. If this guy had been introduced to us before now, and had been established as one of Peter's friends that could conceivably take up the mantle, then fine. Or even if they had decided to make this into an Ultimate version of Miguel O' Hara and his villains/supporting cast, that too could have been cool.
But nope, brand new character, brand new supporting cast, most likely brand new villains...a superhero is so much more then a costume or a mantle. The person underneath the mask is what makes a superhero who they are. Peter Parker IS Spider-Man, Bruce Wayne IS Batman, Clark Kent IS Superman. It's not just powers and tights. It's why I never actually felt like I was reading Batman when he was replaced with an Iron Man/Punisher wannabe, it's why I never felt like I was reading Spider-Man when Ben Reiley took over, it's why why people hated Frank Castle as Captain America. It just isn't the same without the people who defined what it is to be the specific hero. Maybe Miles will end up being a really great, fun character. Maybe his supporting cast will be the best thing to ever happen to comics. But without Peter Parker, without Mary Jane or Aunt May or Gwen Stacey, without Jameson or the Osbornes to turn Spidey's life into a living hell, it just isn't Spider-Man. It's somebody pretending to be someone else, especially when they have no ties to the supporting cast whatsoever.
Further, if they wanted to make a superhero with a more ethnically-diverse cast, then why not just make a new super hero? Answer: because only hardcore comic fans will hear about it. Marvel wants new readers, and they want to appeal to a larger audience. Since no one will hear about a new super hero, they have to do it with a popular mainstream hero that everyone knows...like Spider-Man. A move like that is more likely to gain attention in the media then a new hero ever would.
But he's dating a Chinese Jewish girl, not MJ, as fitting as that would be.funguy2121 said:I think replacing a doe-eyed nice guy who loses his innocence in front of our eyes with a spiky-haired preppie is a much, much worse offense than making him a mulatto. Besides, mixed race Peter Parker is going to make some beautiful babies with Mary Jane, so they'll reach "sexy age" right around the time I reach creepy old man age.metal eslaved said:Okay let explain first marvel comics has 2 universes the 616(the regular one)and the ultimate, in the ultimate universe peter parker(spiderman) died about a month ago, today have been revealed that his successor is half black, half hispanic Miles Morales.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1185446p1.html
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=379006
so what the problem? that comics fan have pretty much gone nuts over this.Some say that this is good thing and other say that this is bullshit and killing peter parker just to put a black person as spiderman is wrong.
oh and before somebody ask dead in the ultimate universe is permanent so far.
I agree with that a shitload, and I hope everyone on IGN does too, before that indepth explaination of your opinion gets removed for trolling because you posted on IGN.PhunkyPhazon said:
What, really? Really?Raziel_Likes_Souls said:But he's dating a Chinese Jewish girl, not MJ, as fitting as that would be.funguy2121 said:I think replacing a doe-eyed nice guy who loses his innocence in front of our eyes with a spiky-haired preppie is a much, much worse offense than making him a mulatto. Besides, mixed race Peter Parker is going to make some beautiful babies with Mary Jane, so they'll reach "sexy age" right around the time I reach creepy old man age.metal eslaved said:Okay let explain first marvel comics has 2 universes the 616(the regular one)and the ultimate, in the ultimate universe peter parker(spiderman) died about a month ago, today have been revealed that his successor is half black, half hispanic Miles Morales.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1185446p1.html
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=379006
so what the problem? that comics fan have pretty much gone nuts over this.Some say that this is good thing and other say that this is bullshit and killing peter parker just to put a black person as spiderman is wrong.
oh and before somebody ask dead in the ultimate universe is permanent so far.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother with posts like that on IGN, it's not like anyone there ever responds to a post that doesn't try to be condescending or insulting.Raziel_Likes_Souls said:I agree with that a shitload, and I hope everyone on IGN does too, before that indepth explaination of your opinion gets removed for trolling because you posted on IGN.PhunkyPhazon said:
OK, I was kidding anyway, but...Chinese, Jewish, African and Hispanic genes?Raziel_Likes_Souls said:But he's dating a Chinese Jewish girl, not MJ, as fitting as that would be.
By the way, I think he's also FtM Transgendered and Gay, to boot.Loop Stricken said:What, really? Really?Raziel_Likes_Souls said:But he's dating a Chinese Jewish girl, not MJ, as fitting as that would be.funguy2121 said:I think replacing a doe-eyed nice guy who loses his innocence in front of our eyes with a spiky-haired preppie is a much, much worse offense than making him a mulatto. Besides, mixed race Peter Parker is going to make some beautiful babies with Mary Jane, so they'll reach "sexy age" right around the time I reach creepy old man age.metal eslaved said:Okay let explain first marvel comics has 2 universes the 616(the regular one)and the ultimate, in the ultimate universe peter parker(spiderman) died about a month ago, today have been revealed that his successor is half black, half hispanic Miles Morales.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1185446p1.html
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=379006
so what the problem? that comics fan have pretty much gone nuts over this.Some say that this is good thing and other say that this is bullshit and killing peter parker just to put a black person as spiderman is wrong.
oh and before somebody ask dead in the ultimate universe is permanent so far.
Huh. I take my earlier comment back; not only do I not like that they killed off Parker, but I dislike this... blatant pandering.