Poll: So these cheaters think they deserve a second chance.

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Phoenix Arrow

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Is it a glitch or an exploit? A glitch to me is like... something goes slightly wrong and either you go "oh... ok" or your Xbox has a panic attack. An exploit is more manipulative and implies intent to break the game.
 

geldonyetich

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Phoenix Arrow said:
Is it a glitch or an exploit? A glitch to me is like... something goes slightly wrong and either you go "oh... ok" or your Xbox has a panic attack. An exploit is more manipulative and implies intent to break the game.
I think it's a glitch. From what I hear, Call Of Duty is lousy with little things you do if you twiddle your controller just right. For example, the aforementioned Javelin glitch goes like this:


The thing with glitches is that the ignorant think they stumbled upon some sort of secret uber mode that's there deliberately.
 

Knight Templar

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Glitching should not be ban worthy, suspend them by all means, but ban? Thats flushing away money for using something in-game.

Hell the glitch isn't even as bad as DoubleShotgunDude, something they wanted in the game, baning people seems a bit extreem when the glitch is more balanced than some of the weapons.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Ignorance of the rules doesn't exempt you from them. Just because he didn't bother to read the rules, he thinks he deserves special treatments. Nooooo...
Read the rules, follow the rules. I know those ToS can be very wordy, but I would think something like "no cheating" would be common sense. ...on the other hand, since when was common sense ever common? (rhetorical question)
 

zimtheawesome

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Like said previously, its not really their second chance. I dont think they deserve another one after seeing the video posted above. Its not like it is just something that you come across and it ruins the fun for the other players so why should they be allowed to play.
To the person who said they dont play for the leaderboards so they dont care. Thats all well and good but (assuming you play multiplayer) dont you prefer to win, I do. I dont care about being the top of the leaderboards but I dont want to lose to someone who uses an in game glitch
 

JRCB

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I don't think they deserve a second chance. They're breaking the code of conduct, which you should read while signing up.
 

Phoenix Arrow

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geldonyetich said:
Phoenix Arrow said:
Is it a glitch or an exploit? A glitch to me is like... something goes slightly wrong and either you go "oh... ok" or your Xbox has a panic attack. An exploit is more manipulative and implies intent to break the game.
I think it's a glitch. From what I hear, Call Of Duty is lousy with little things you do if you twiddle your controller just right. For example, the aforementioned Javelin glitch goes like this:


The thing with glitches is that the ignorant think they stumbled upon some sort of secret uber mode that's there deliberately.
Yuck. Activision need to fix it soon if they can, abusers need a temp ban for being disgusting, cheap and a disgrace to humanity.
 

Lucane

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I think sense it was such a multiplayer braking glitch they should have issuesd a warning 1st and informed ppl in after the 1st month/javelin glitch is fix the leaderboards would be reset but anyone continuing(sp?) the glitch would be banned accordingly to what they've done so far.Though I think it's to late for a revoking of the bans now.
 

DarkDain

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Never seen that glitch before, so does this mean they'll ban people abusing that damned Afghan map glitch, hiding in the rock?
 

enzilewulf

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Ya, I hear you. Dude these people think its funny too, thats why I snipe. That way they couldn't hit me as easily. Got them pretty angery, then after one game some cheater had enought guts to trash talk me saying that im afraid to kill a javlin glitcher. Wtf? Okay? your the one who fails at cheating. Pretty sad if you ask me.
 

Urgh76

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VinnyKings said:
Well if you're too stupid and don't have any common sense then sure you should only get a warning but only if youre as Yatzee says it PANTS ON HEAD RETARDED!
u sir, win an internet
 

CrystalShadow

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badgersprite said:
These people fail law. You don't have to be aware of a rule or a law in order to be punished for disobeying it, especially since a) private companies can do whatever the hell they want with their property and b) it's common sense. Just because someone doesn't know that something they did was illegal or that it breaks a rule doesn't mean they get away with their actions.
Don't be so quick to assume you know what the law says. I'm sure this is true in a lot of jurisdictions, but it's not iron-clad.
In that sense, this particular line of thought can border on an urban myth, if applied blindly.

Example?
Australia: The Queensland 'Criminal Code'. A misnomer, often disguised by the fact that it's near impossible to find a copy of this document independtly of several other books, and authorities seem to want to hide it from people. (which, if you think about it, isn't surprising; It makes a police officer or Judge's life a lot harder.)
First thing is: The 'Criminal Code', to give it it's full name, is actually the 'Code of conduct for the criminal justice system'.
Ergo, it isn't intended to say anything about 'criminals', but rather how judges, police officers, lawyers, etc. are supposed to act.

Now, this only technically applies to a single state in Australia, but if you look at the details they do show something interesting that could certainly lead to confusion.

So where does this idea come from, in regards to this particular document? Well, it contains about 120 entries.
One of them, does essentially say 'Ignorance of the law is not an excuse'. But... Another says: 'You may use "I did not know the law" as a legal defense.'

So how is this possible? Well, if the 'rules' are taken out of context, this makes no sense.
But, if you take the document as a whole, you will notice it's broken into 3 sections.
1 section applies to everyone (about 20 rules or so), the second applies to people working with laws in some capacity. (say solicitors, or legal secretaries) (another 70 or so rules). The remainder apply to legal professionals. (Essentially, judges, police, and lawyers.)

So... It is not permitted for a police officer, Judge, or lawyer to say they don't know the law. (it's their job after all). But it's a valid defense for a member of the general public to say they didn't know.
(of course, as a result, the police will try and trick you into saying you know what the law is, which can then be used against you.)

An interesting side-issue is that one of the rules states that if a legal professional tells you something that contradicts the actual rules in this document, they have committed a crime, and are liable for 7 years in prison.
Something to think about.

Warning! The above is used as an example only, and should not be relied on as being factually correct. Also, it only applies to Queensland, Australia, and the laws in other countries (or even other Australian states, might be quite different.)

danpascooch said:
I can't blame them for not reading the EULA or whatever it is, who the fuck reads those things anyway? That's like reading the manual for your microwave. You put stuff in it, push buttons, and it gets hot, and you try to keep your cat out of it while its running. Basic stuff.

What I CAN blame them for is not using common sense, Most people don't read the EULA, but those with a functional brain should know that cheating like a douche-bag will probably have ramifications.

The thing is about EULA's is that you are either too smart to need it, or too dumb to understand it, there is NO middle ground where it is actually helpful.

You can quote me on that :)
Eh. EULA's... Are so irritatingly dubious. The main problem in most cases, is that there's no way to read the EULA until after you've paid.
Which is...
Well, perhaps this demonstrates how insane that can get:
http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/420/-Terms-of-Friendship
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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CrystalShadow said:
Eh. EULA's... Are so irritatingly dubious. The main problem in most cases, is that there's no way to read the EULA until after you've paid.
Which is...
Well, perhaps this demonstrates how insane that can get:
http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/420/-Terms-of-Friendship
That video is both hilarious and relevant - kudos!
 

nart_21086

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Furburt said:
Whatever. It's one of those things that's everyone s fault.

Try as I might, I can't have an opinion on it.
Same sentiments here.
and cheaters will only cheat once more because they are habitual jackasses...
 

Once a Human

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Well, this is pretty cut and dry. They knew they were cheating and got what they knew would happen if they were caught. Serves them right. I've never understood why so many trample over one another to play Call of Duty games anyway.