Poll: So these cheaters think they deserve a second chance.

[Flour]

Well, on a repeat offense, they should be fucking shot. I mean, to be hit with a temp ban, then do it again? Seriously, we should all piss on their ashes.

But for a first time offense, they DO get a temp (very short about 48 hour) ban, that DOES irrefutably make that point. Once they do it again after that, the damn gloves come off.

So.. that temp ban specifically states what it is that got them the temp? I've only ever seen the message "you have been banned for " no explanation and usually asking on forums gets absolutely no reason as to why someone was banned, maybe a few flames from idiots and a link to a ToS that explains nothing.

 

[Beastialman]

I think they deserve a second chance, it's not like the messed with the connections making everyone else wait through horrendous lag, the people actually get a chance to fight back.

 

[Caligulove]

well, if its cheating... then why should you be given a warning message when I'm sure that cheating is in part with any kind of user agreement that you would go along with for online play and the usual lack of tolerance for cheats or exploiting glitches.

 

[Aura Guardian]

i did this glitch a hell load when i was playing with friends. and only in like 3 games for one day.

they should try and make their glitches less hilarious to do every time. that would have stopped me from doing it. it also opened my eyes to how easy people are to knife.

...What? Even with friends it's still wrong.

 

[coldshadow]

a perma-ban is a little extreme, temperary ban sounds appropiate

 

[Rapture00]

Put them In JAIL! Prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law! - Tony Kornheiser

 

[Katana314]

Sigh.

Let me ask you something; what EXACTLY does that EULA say? Something along the lines of "Unintended benefits in a competitive game?" How freaking vague is that? No lawyer would be able to put an exact definition on "unintended benefits", or even however it's phrased. Cheating by modifying game code is very easily defined, but not a game "glitch". When you look at such things as bunnyhopping or just firing a gun in a different way, you start to realize whatever anti-"glitching" clause you could possibly apply is COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I don't play a game for the leaderbaords, so I don't really care.

This glitch sure as hell doesn't get you anywhere near the leaderboards. It actually ruins your K/D because you end up dying so much. That's another reason people that abuse it are retarded. It doesn't help you in any way. It's only purpose is to piss off other players.

Permanent bans for all of them. Warnings are to be used for honest mistakes. If you use this glitch you are actively seeking to ruin the experience of other players. That's intolerable.

 

[Drolly The Escapist Monster]

I don't know, I don't think you should be banned for a glitch. It's not their fault that it's there, there only exploiting it. If they were hacking, I'd think otherwise.

 

[Littlee300]

We cant let people take advantage of game D:<
But really someone like me for example wouldn't glitch online with proper morals
I say a month of suspension

 

[Baconator96]

i dont get it. so does it make it so that the weapon you switch to after the javelin fire javelin rockets? so you can snipe people with bombs?

 

[Fragged_Templar]

I just hope they implement VAC/Punk Buster soon so we can get rid of all the aimboters too.

 

[Brad Shepard]

Gliching is more or less cheating in my book, so if you get banned, good, teaches you to exploit the system.

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

If you cheat, you deserve to get banned. Period. Because you're a cheater and cheaters, by deliberately choosing to break the rules, immediately forfeit all their rights. Serves you right.

 

[Darkadder246]

Had a glitcher like this on the sever I was on.

Ugh that was annoying.

 

[Eatspeeple]

CHRIST these guys are annoying. Glad to see some punishment meated out... but not a ban. A bit harsh. I want to see how the glitch exploiters would do just playing normally.

 

[mechanixis]

Ban the parasite. It's not so outrageous for exploiting glitches to be an offense that you don't see it coming. You know it's not in the spirit of the game. You know the designers didn't put this in there for you to figure out and use. This is roughly equivalent to grabbing an item off the shelf in a supermarket and walking out with it, and when you get arrested for shoplifting claiming you simply didn't realize that the item was the store's property.

 

[DarkDain]

I... think they deserve a second chance actually... Theirs more legit ways to frustrate people in the game, plus its not like their getting ahead in the game by blowing themselves up i'd kind of find it hilarious in a hardcore mode where they blow their team mates apart. Plus you can always join another game, i've never seen someone doing it.

 

[G-Mang]

Using glitches is not the same as cheating. A glitch is merely a part of a game that was unforeseen or somehow avoid either by chance or choice--it's not inherently wrong (or even something worthy of discipline/patching) unless it makes the game unplayable or close to it for others (like the underground sentry glitch in gravelpit ptC in TF2).

People don't get banned in SSB for wavedashing, they don't get banned in Starcraft for using the gas trick, they don't get banned in Street Fighter for using a 2-1 combo, they don't get banned in quake for rocketjumping, they don't get banned in tribes for bhopping, they don't get banned in in basketball for full-court pressing, they don't get banned in Guild Wars for perma-SF farming, they don't get banned in TF2 for Bonk strafing, and they don't get banned for using third-party-antagonizing dealings in Monopoly. Glitches/exploits can become parts of games just as well as any developer-intended mechanic, and there's nothing inherently wrong with making use of emergent gameplay. Glitch mechanics are part of the game when you buy it. Whether it was clear or intentional isn't really relevant to its value.

If I sold someone my car that I had grown up with and they ended up using it for parts, it might not be how I envisioned the car would be used, but that doesn't matter--it's their car, and they have no obligations to me or my intentions. Likewise, game players aren't obligated to stay true to the spirit of the developers' intentions (or whatever you want to call it), they're merely obligated to not literally change the mechanics of the game (hacking).

If the glitch is extremely overpowered to the extent that it noticeably removes viable options at high-level play, then it should be fixed. That's as far as it should go. The video I saw looked like it made you auto-grenade on death. That's not something that breaks the game. It might make the game worse, but that's something that should be patched, not policed.

Of course, I could be getting the wrong impression from the video. If this auto-grenade/javelin/whatever thing literally kills people even if they take measures to avoid it, like sniping from a distance or something, that would qualify as making the game unplayable, which would probably warrant discipline.