Poll: So what has happend?

[Jonluw]

Equality and degradation of gender-roles is what happened.
And that's a bad thing!

 

[thetruefallen]

Everybody knows that the past is where all the good/classy things happened. remember when smoking was cool?

 

[tigermilk]

So what the hell happened?

You selectively picked images, thats what the hell happened. I notice there was no Elton John/Liberace during their heyday images for gay men/people.

No James Dean for men cross referenced with Vin Diesel et al.

Hegemonic definitions of masculinity have always been contested and hopefully always will be.

 

[tigermilk]

Your mother obviously is trying to reverse the genders in a plan to make the Earth rotate in the opposite direction so she can have eternal life and you'll never get your inheritance. Run-on sentences ftw.

Wow never thought I would be ninja'd about the earths momentum being reversed ;p

 

[BabyRaptor]

Now, the gay people thing is ENTIRELY a strawman. Because Perez Hilton isn't gay. I mean, clearly. He's either, A., a far right conservative who has vowed to give homosexuality such a bad name that he has dedicated his life to being the biggest, most flamboyantly obnoxious gay dude, right down to being more gay than Liberace being set on fire and run through a rainbow tumble drier. And I say this possibility because you'll notice that Perez (I fucking hate that name) is also a racist and a sexist, two traits not common among the gay community. And let's face it. The farther right you go, that harder it is not to be racist and sexist.

Or, B. A Pod Person. I think this possibility speaks for itself.

I believe the word you;re looking for there is 'metrosexual,' good sir. Also, completely agree with you on Kesha...I often wonder what people see in her.

To the OP: Over time, society's view of what is "acceptable" has changed. Women are now slightly more free to do something besides stay at home, cook and make babies. People have realized that not all boys like sports and being a muscle man poster prospect. And we're living out these realizations.

 

[Vault101]

you joking right? you dont like the way people dress? get over yourself...really

 

[WolfThomas]

Meh, I don't know about you but I still routinely wear a tie, blazer and moustache.

 

[Hosker]

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. Sean must have been around 30 when that picture was taken, and that kid, whoever he is, can't be out of his teens for very long. Plus, these two don't represent entire generations. And as for the woman one, I don't know what you're getting at - a different fashion sense?

 

[DeadEy3]

No, seriously. That guy over there...

 

[coldfrog]

No doubt these people existed in the past times as well, but much as will happen 10 years from now to whoever you were trying to point out, everyone forgot about them because they didn't do anything but be a showboater.

 

[Wade-DeadPool]

So what the hell happened?

You selectively picked images, thats what the hell happened. I notice there was no Elton John/Liberace during their heyday images for gay men/people.

No James Dean for men cross referenced with Vin Diesel et al.

Hegemonic definitions of masculinity have always been contested and hopefully always will be.

...Sorry justin beaver, but you are justin beaver, so your argument is invalid.

 

[Wade-DeadPool]

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. Sean must have been around 30 when that picture was taken, and that kid, whoever he is, can't be out of his teens for very long. Plus, these two don't represent entire generations. And as for the woman one, I don't know what you're getting at - a different fashion sense?

Let me see now. The women to the left looks like somebody I could introduce to my mother, and she would like her. The one on the right... She would shoot my face off.

And it is not the fashion I'm talking about. That "thing" on the right is batshit insane.'
The one on the left.. I don't know anything about her, but he is representing to me what a proper women looks like. She can bake a apple pie, talk with me for hours about noting and everything. She gives me a smile in the morning and I give her a smile to. She is the kind of women I want to grow old with and she will never in my eyes look any less beautiful then the first day I saw her.

The batshit lady... I would drink heavy if I ever "hit it" to kill my memories of that night

 

[tigermilk]

So what the hell happened?

You selectively picked images, thats what the hell happened. I notice there was no Elton John/Liberace during their heyday images for gay men/people.

No James Dean for men cross referenced with Vin Diesel et al.

Hegemonic definitions of masculinity have always been contested and hopefully always will be.

...Sorry justin beaver, but you are justin beaver, so your argument is invalid.

Touche, can't possibly come back from that, and presumably my avatar highlights the limits of language as it appears there is no possible argument I can put forward, damn linguistics and semiotics!

 

[LarenzoAOG]

You usually see polls with 3 or 4 legitimate options and one stupid one, OP has managed to make a poll with one option that makes a bit of sense and 6 stupid options.

OT: Shit changes, it can take as little as a few years for society to change, and with that comes new trends and styles and all that jazz.

 

[Woodsey]

Probably about the same time people started making fully retarded generalisations.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Words cannot express how much I hope this is in jest.

If you're joking, nice one, you made me chuckle.

If you're being serious, Jesus' balls this is stupid. 'Manliness' is something most people could barely even define, there were effeminate men back in the old days and there are 'manly' men today. As for woman, do you mean that the full view of women as being stay at home in the kitchen pumping out kids but always look classy whenever you go out is what you want? Because if so fuck chauvinist, and if you mean 'oh god what are women wearing these days' then I would respond perhaps with pictures like these.

http://candyandcouture.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/the-bafta-red-carpet-2011/

And then say fuck you for making me use Emma Watson to argue positively.

As for gay men, what about Liberace? Elton John? Quentin Crisp? Richard motherucking Simmons?

As I say, I hope to god you were joking, because otherwise this is just sad.

 

[BlueberryMUNCH]

I don't get angry much.
But yeah, I'm pissed at you.

So what, you're saying that because of changing fashion trends, people are lesser people?
Grow the hell up man.

 

[ChildofGallifrey]

Twenty somethings content looking twelve is mind boggling.

It's not always a choice. I'm 21, and I look like I'm 15. I'm not complaining, on the contrary, I'm actually quite happy because in my field looking younger than you are is a good thing, but it's not something that I have any control over. I'm just naturally like this. I'm a little on the short side (5'8"), a lot on the skinny side (125 lbs), and I'm incapable of growing a full, proper beard. These aren't thing I've decided on as a fashion statement, it's just how I am. At least I can take solace in the fact that I dress like a normal person and not an emo brat.

Spoiler: I don't look old enough to have a daughter

 

[funguy2121]

OP is using piss pour examples. Do we know anything about Audrey Hepburn aside from her being a pretty, talented actress?

I could list porn stars who have more class than Kesha (or Ke$sha, or whatever stupid bullshit), but instead I'll simply mention Karen O (singer for the Yeah Yeah Yeahs), Michelle Obama and Tina Fey, Jenny Lewis (singer for the Watson Twins and Rilo Kiley), Diablo Cody (writer/creator of Juno and United States of Tara), and Scarlett Johannsen (actress who did an album of Tom Waits covers, who despite recent Escapist rumors most definitely does NOT have a penis ).

http://treschicbellevue.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/jennylewisjennylewis.jpg

Jenny Lewis

Speaking of Tom Waits, let's have a look at the guy.

http://jgerenaiarock.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/wait1.jpg

He's made dozens and dozens of albums, literally every one of them bad-ass.

So I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but your view is not an informed one. All of the female divas are going hyper-sexual (or were the last time I watched The Soup), which is a normal trend amongst the marginally talented. No biggie. It doesn't mean they represent women, because they don't. Nursing is still very much a female dominated field, and nurses by and large are not gutter tras-

You fell asleep, didn't you? OK, well, then here's a pic of singer/songwriter Janelle Monae.

http://www.interviewmagazine.com/files/2009/04/16/img-janelle-monae_152655696803.jpg

Not exactly a gutterslut, is she?

As for gay men, here's Jesse Tyler Ferguson, real life and fictional gay man and star of Modern Family.

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTU1MTI2NDcwM15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzU5NjIyMw@@._V1._SX514_SY720_.jpg

Not exactly Adam Lambert. Speaking of Modern Family, here's ugly-ass, skanky Sofia Vergara

http://0.tqn.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/R/5/-/-/sofiavergara.jpg

The slut!

So yeah, I don't think your juxtopositions mean anything. The spotlight is hogged by the likes of the cast of Jersey Shore, yet I don't see any threads on here asking "What happened to Jersey-ites?" because there have always been douchebags from Jersey and they've always been a minority (though the spray-on tan and vocal affinity for genital-shrinking HGH is relatively new). This is just another example of the things are worse than they used to be myth. I'm guessing you weren't around when Hepburn was alive and in the spotlight. Hell, you may have not even been around at the time of Freddy Mercury's death. So how 'bout we all agree to stop pining for an era that really wasn't as great as we think it was, especially for women, minorities, immigrants, children and gay people, and instead try to make our time a better one?