Poll: So where do you stand on Anonymous and why?

[Lizmichi]

I think unless we all give out are information we are all a part of Anonymous

Well, and this is how it's been told to me, everyone is apart of Anonymous that wants to be. If there's there's something web related you feel is unjust, or if you hate Scientology that you want to have fixed you're part of Anon. Hell you don't have to hack. Anon members have done protests all over the world.

As for Anon it's self anon isn't really a group so much as it is a group of people with a common goal, the better the internet. Before I said I didn't agree with their methods and even now I'm not sure, but I support what they're trying to do.

 

[Romidude]

I'm a part of it

So positive

What do you mean by "I'm part of it"? Is there like a "SIGN UP HERE TO BE PART OF ANONYMOUS" Or do you just deem youself one?

I'm a regular poster on 4chan,7chan,789chan,N0chan, and 420chan

I also sometimes participate in raids so I think I'm qualified to say that

Where do you hear about these raids? It sounds interesting.

 

[Actual]

I don't really like them. The only thing I really remember them doing that is any good is standing up against censorship with the wikileaks thing. I also remember then going around attacking peoples religion. The religion here being scientology. Which, no matter what you think about it, isn't cool to do to ANY religion.

Scientology isn't a religion, it's a dangerous and criminal cult. Bringing this to people's attention was the entire point of operation chanology.

 

[godfist88]

i sort of see them as a neutral party leaning more towards freedom fighter side. they like to screw around with people for fun, but when someone tries to take away our freedoms they don't F around.

 

[Dupeo]

I support Anonymous, they are a result of a corrupt government which consorts with evil corporations and are funded by thieving banks.

 

[hem dazon 90]

I'm a part of it

So positive

What do you mean by "I'm part of it"? Is there like a "SIGN UP HERE TO BE PART OF ANONYMOUS" Or do you just deem youself one?

I'm a regular poster on 4chan,7chan,789chan,N0chan, and 420chan

I also sometimes participate in raids so I think I'm qualified to say that

Where do you hear about these raids? It sounds interesting.

Used to be /i/ and /b/

Now it's usually a bunch of people getting a trolling posse on skype

 

[Eijarel]

I have no official stand on anonymous
I have no official stand on those who are against anonymous
I have no official stand on those who approve of anonymous
I have a very f'king serious stand on the lulz.

 

[-Samurai-]

I also find them to be highly hypocritical. How can you fight for the freedom to access information, when you're keeping information about yourself a secret?

Hi, my name is John Doe, I live at 123 made Up Street. I wish to take a stand online against corruption, abuse of power, and suppression of information and human rights. ...oh I've been arrested, well that was short-lived.

Knowing my name is information no-one needs to know. When a government breaks the law and tries to hide it, that's information everyone should know, it's not hypocritical at all.

What makes that information everyone needs to know, and who says people need to know it? And why exactly does everyone need to know it? And why is it ok to post someones name, social security number, address, and phone number on the internet simply because they don't like said person(Aaron Barr), while at the same time, not revealing who they are?

Because they're hypocrites.

 

[Astoria]

I don't know enough about them to judge but some of the latest stuff I've heard about on here makes me like them.

It just seems cowardly to me for them to hide behind a veil.

Maybe but I get why they do it. It's kinda like the suprehero deal I suppose, if you hide behind a mask then people can't come after you directly, just the mask.

 

[Ryuu Akamatsu]

Anonymous is not a group. Not an organization. There's no structure. How can you have an opinion on a group that doesn't exist in the first place?

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

I'm surprised by the amount of people attempting to negate the value of an opinion based on the idea that "it is not a group" or "you can't have an opinion about things that don't meet X,Y, and Z parameters"... since when? You can have an opinion on anything - doesn't mean all opinions are intelligent or well-rounded or even more than laughable, but people can have an opinion about whatever.

 

[TiefBlau]

They're the natural conclusion of the internet. I wouldn't say they're good or bad, but rather that they're a natural phenomenon, like lightning or urine.

As people, I'd say I'm in no position to judge, because I've laughed at things they've done that were just plain wrong. So yeah, I don't know.

 

[Markvtos]

I also find them to be highly hypocritical. How can you fight for the freedom to access information, when you're keeping information about yourself a secret?

Hi, my name is John Doe, I live at 123 made Up Street. I wish to take a stand online against corruption, abuse of power, and suppression of information and human rights. ...oh I've been arrested, well that was short-lived.

Knowing my name is information no-one needs to know. When a government breaks the law and tries to hide it, that's information everyone should know, it's not hypocritical at all.

What makes that information everyone needs to know, and who says people need to know it? And why exactly does everyone need to know it? And why is it ok to post someones name, social security number, address, and phone number on the internet simply because they don't like said person(Aaron Barr), while at the same time, not revealing who they are?

Because they're hypocrites.

Another person missing the point. SOME Anonymous people do what you said. One element may be into trolling, another not. I surf 4chan, have done for quite a while now. I don't agree with a lot of posts on there, especially on /b/, but those are the ones i would ignore.

What one anonymous user does, or even a few, can't be used to condemn the entire collective userbase that call themselves anonymous.

It's a bit like life. In life, people are generally good, i believe that... but you will meet the odd person who is a complete ass-hat. Just because some people are idiots, would you condemn all people as such? No, of course not.

It needs repeating here: Anon is not a group, and it has no goals. No one represents Anon, and no actions represent Anon. It only represents the core ideologies of the people behind the actions who have decided to use the term "Anonymous".

 

[Markvtos]

I'm surprised by the amount of people attempting to negate the value of an opinion based on the idea that "it is not a group" or "you can't have an opinion about things that don't meet X,Y, and Z parameters"... since when? You can have an opinion on anything - doesn't mean all opinions are intelligent or well-rounded or even more than laughable, but people can have an opinion about whatever.

People are saying it's not a group because it isn't. That's just people correcting other people.

People are entitled to whatever opinion they want, it's just worth explaining what exactly they are having an opinion on.

 

[Markvtos]

Think about it like this:

Say tomorrow me and 5 other anons harass some girl, and bully her online to get nudes pictures, and then i post them around. Thus humiliating her. Now, would those actions of the few REALLY represent the MILLIONS who visit 4chan and call themselves Anonymous?... Most of whom would be as disgusted at those actions as you would be.

If someone from here does something wrong ever, i'll make sure to blame the whole site and see how you feel.

 

[DudeD1020]

I don't really like them. The only thing I really remember them doing that is any good is standing up against censorship with the wikileaks thing. I also remember then going around attacking peoples religion. The religion here being scientology. Which, no matter what you think about it, isn't cool to do to ANY religion.

Whole different issue there kid. I don't care what official standing they have, Scientology is a cult, and a dangerous one at that. Just as you have the right to speak for them, i have the same right to speak against them, and if some people want to protest against them, well they have that right as well.

I'm sorry but this attack a religion thing is not just.
You are not a person with an authority, nor is there a person with the authority to say what is and is not a religion. But do you remember the holocaust?
Yes it was started by one man, but he started it by planning assaults, robberies, and attacks on the Jewish people. So if Anon is attacking religious websites, organizations, buildings, and practitioners then you and anyone that supports this act could be encouraging the type of hatred that cost the lives of millions.

 

[Chainsaws_of_War_2]

I hope you all realize you're discussing Anonymous as it was mid 2006. Now it's just a bunch of 15-17 year olds posting porn and trying to get posts with identical numbers as the last two digits of their post numbers (A.K.A. dubs). If you don't believe me, go check for yourself.

It's no organization, hell it's barely referred to as Anonymous anymore (except by 13 year olds who are years late and want to be part of a movement so they can tell their friends about it). If you all think it has any influence at all anymore, you're horribly mistaken.

EDIT: Let me put it this way. /b/, the board on 4chan you're probably all referring to, is more akin to Gaia now than what you're discussing.

They even have a specific board just to hate on video games .. its called Vee I think.

Associating Anonymous with a non-moderated imageboard these days is a little silly. I feel like everyone is forgetting what the definition of anonymous means. You really have no idea who's behind the sites going down, how old they are, and what they do. Throwing slurs at an infamous site does nothing, it's like calling pedophiles evil.

Sure it's what they are, but everyone knows it.

 

[Corkydog]

I don't really like them. The only thing I really remember them doing that is any good is standing up against censorship with the wikileaks thing. I also remember then going around attacking peoples religion. The religion here being scientology. Which, no matter what you think about it, isn't cool to do to ANY religion.

Whole different issue there kid. I don't care what official standing they have, Scientology is a cult, and a dangerous one at that. Just as you have the right to speak for them, i have the same right to speak against them, and if some people want to protest against them, well they have that right as well.

I'm sorry but this attack a religion thing is not just.
You are not a person with an authority, nor is there a person with the authority to say what is and is not a religion. But do you remember the holocaust?
Yes it was started by one man, but he started it by planning assaults, robberies, and attacks on the Jewish people. So if Anon is attacking religious websites, organizations, buildings, and practitioners then you and anyone that supports this act could be encouraging the type of hatred that cost the lives of millions.

There is a phenonomally huge difference between Anonymous and Hitler. What you just did there is called a logical fallacy.

 

[tthor]

i sometimes despise them, and sometimes greatly admire them
I'm honestly considering joining anonymous, tho i don't think the anonymous's social experience is much to look forward to x_x

 

[Markvtos]

I don't really like them. The only thing I really remember them doing that is any good is standing up against censorship with the wikileaks thing. I also remember then going around attacking peoples religion. The religion here being scientology. Which, no matter what you think about it, isn't cool to do to ANY religion.

Whole different issue there kid. I don't care what official standing they have, Scientology is a cult, and a dangerous one at that. Just as you have the right to speak for them, i have the same right to speak against them, and if some people want to protest against them, well they have that right as well.

I'm sorry but this attack a religion thing is not just.
You are not a person with an authority, nor is there a person with the authority to say what is and is not a religion. But do you remember the holocaust?
Yes it was started by one man, but he started it by planning assaults, robberies, and attacks on the Jewish people. So if Anon is attacking religious websites, organizations, buildings, and practitioners then you and anyone that supports this act could be encouraging the type of hatred that cost the lives of millions.

Wait... You're comparing legitimate protest to the FUCKING Holocaust?

Fine. No one should ever be allowed to protest about anything ever again, lest it's hurts anyones feeling and starts the Holocaust 2.

Just listen to yourself before you speak, you idiot.