Poll: Social Dogma(?): the Moral Superiority of Women

[Thaluikhain]

Mostly, it's a myth, based on archaic gender roles (the woman stays at home and is the nurturing mother, and she's weak and powerless and can't do much harm anyway) combined with bizarre objectification of the ideal of woman by people in response to problems caused by a failure to realise that women are just people.

On the other hand, you are more likely to be raped or murdered by a man than a woman, the CDC says that domestic violence happens almost twice as often male on female than the reverse, murder of partners happens three times as much male on female than the reverse [footnote]http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/IPV_factsheet-a.pdf[/footnote] and so on. Statistically, then, you could argue for it.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

To quote Led Zeppelin "the soul of a woman was created below". The fairer sex likes to believe that its more sophisticated and men but that just aint true. If men have an issue with each other they punch each other until problem is resolved. Women they just tease each other until one develops an eating disorder.

And it's precisely opinions like this that prove that society doesn't view men as the inferior gender morally.

 

[Paksenarrion]

Uh...*no one* is morally superior. It comes down to the limitations we impose on ourselves and our reactions to stimuli.

 

[Seives-Sliver]

There is a dogma where women can do things, or are believed to be better than men at certain things and are definatly more trust-worthy than men, but men and women are not different, they can mess up at the same thing and still have the same amount of failure as one another, the only time things are emphasized is when society gets involved and makes decisions based on what it wants to think is the norm.

 

[Harrowdown]

Eugh. This is another thread that's destined to become a dumping ground for fools to spread cliches and bullshit. Yes, it is generally believed that a female stranger is more trustworthy than a male stranger. This may or may not be the case if you know the people. This assumption is backed up by an overwhelming statistical trend that suggests you're more likely to be assaulted/robbed/raped/whatever by a male, and also by a biological instinct to seek maternal figures when in need. This certainly doesn't suggest that women are thought to be morally superior, or that it's believed to a dogmatic degree. I mean, there's pretty much no logical link between which gender is more trusted and which gender is more moral, what with morality extending far beyond just trustworthiness.

Also, could this thread please not descend (further) into bland and prejudiced stereotyping? Women are not all bitchy and cold, and even if they all were, that wouldn't make them all immoral. These assumptions are illogical, uncorroborated and just plain fucking silly.

 

[Donbett1974]

Well in some states if a woman says you raped her that in it self is evidence. Remember when Britney Spears claim she was a virgin everyone believe her and thought Justin Timberlake was either gay or p***y whipped.

 

[Axelhander]

The entire concept of dogma is flawed, and by extension so is this topic.

 

[SilentCom]

I don't think one gender is morally superior over the other. I can't say the same for others because it seems that men are illustrated as being less trustworthy than women in many instances. For example, when people think of cheating, they tend to think that the man cheated on his wife or the delinquent/trouble making boy was cheating on his quiz. This also goes for how people view "women and children" as innocent and if something bad happens to them then it is a tragedy but if it happens to a man then it's not as bad. This does not illustrate one gender being morally superior over the other or even more innocent than the other but rather that many people haven't yet broaden their understanding and abide to stereotypes.

 

[FredTheUndead]

Maybe if men stopped being the root of all evil that would change. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT HUH BRO?

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Humans are just that...human. Gender is only one perceived difference amongst the whole of humanity. As Bill Hicks once said "What's going to happen to the arms race when we realize we are all one?"

Something I learned from Lady Miria in LUNAR: Eternal Blue Complete - "A person's worth is not determined by whether or not they have money. A person's worth is determined by the sum total of their hopes, their dreams and their actions." I modified the last part into the core of my beliefs to be "A person's worth is determined by the sum total of their dreams, their beliefs and their actions." If I was to give a numerical value to these things for a sum, it would be 5%, 20% and 75% respectively.

Nowhere in either mine or Miria's definition of a person's worth does gender make a determinating factor because, IMO, both genders are equally defined within these parameters.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Maybe if men stopped being the root of all evil that would change. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT HUH BRO?

I think religious traditionalisms have a lot to do with that point of view. I've read the Torah, the Quran and the Bible and nowhere in any of those books did I find an example of a woman having a place or position of leadership, be it in politics or religious functions, outside of the home and have it considered to be acceptable. It always struck me as odd that, in these beliefs, God was a man and most, if not all, prophets are men and then proceed to tell us that all were made in his image and likeness. Wouldn't God have thought, after all these years, especially after all of the wars and violence and destruction, "Geez, ya know....maybe I should send a daughter next time."?

(Captcha: Input badendat. Thy will be done, Master Inglip.)

 

[Ceil-Sama]

Well, there's also the whole "Women are only wives if they hate sex. Otherwise they're all whores and sluts" view or "Women are all like mother Teresa, who are full caring and love". It is always on who you're asking. In the end, women are just people too. We have our Aileen Wuornos and Elizabeth Ecseds, and we have our Teresas and Marys. Women are not more moral than men, theres just that ideal. In the end, we're people too.

 

[Treeinthewoods]

The only superiority I believe in is my own.

 

[Mimssy]

To be perfectly honest, I would say that sex has no bearing on moral character. My high-school has plenty of morally bankrupt people, both male and female. I know just as many heartless, shallow girls as I do hyper-masculine, immature boys.

I agree. For every immoral woman I have met, I met an immoral guy and the other way around. I don't find sex to determine character.