Poll: Something About "Chrono Trigger" is really bothering me.

[IamSofaKingRaw]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

 

[notsosavagemessiah]

sir, you are in the wrong. Every song in chrono trigger is amazing, my personal favorite theme is a boss theme, namely, the battle with magus.

 

[Austin Howe]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

I agree with the battle system. It's just so consistently fun to use.

 

[mangledmailman]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

maybe you should go back and read my explanation for all of that. i dont feel like retyping things. and there are better combat systems in turn based rpgs. you are wrong. there i told you. not that any comabt in a turn based rpg can be much better than any other considering that turn based combat leaves nearly no room for innovation or change, but final fantasy x's was better just by the fact that you could switch characters mid battle. now please read my long post to see where else you are wrong.

EDIT: also, having to buy new magic and stuff? that was a terrible idea. almost as bad as FFVIII where you had to take it from enemies and thats how you powered up your characters.

 

[Atmos Duality]

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

Calling either one the "better game" seems silly when it serves absolutely no purpose.

 

[FalloutJack]

I see no problem with any of the Chrono Trigger themes, period. It's a matter of fact that I tend to like battle themes MORE than the rest of the game music.

 

[Austin Howe]

I see no problem with any of the Chrono Trigger themes, period. It's a matter of fact that I tend to like battle themes MORE than the rest of the game music.

That's it though, those pieces, in Chrono Trigger, are awful.

 

[FalloutJack]

I see no problem with any of the Chrono Trigger themes, period. It's a matter of fact that I tend to like battle themes MORE than the rest of the game music.

That's it though, those pieces, in Chrono Trigger, are awful.

That's your opinion, laddy.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

maybe you should go back and read my explanation for all of that. i dont feel like retyping things. and there are better combat systems in turn based rpgs. you are wrong. there i told you. not that any comabt in a turn based rpg can be much better than any other considering that turn based combat leaves nearly no room for innovation or change, but final fantasy x's was better just by the fact that you could switch characters mid battle. now please read my long post to see where else you are wrong.

EDIT: also, having to buy new magic and stuff? that was a terrible idea. almost as bad as FFVIII where you had to take it from enemies and thats how you powered up your characters.

Eww, FFX was very basic with its combat system, hell it is the same as all the other ones. The only FF game to try something new was FFXII.

No other turnbased RPG has as a unique and nearly flawless combat system as CC. Now that I think about it the worlds in CT are more memorable but I still stand by CC ultimately being the better game. Face it, the game came out years after it should and is better.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I see no problem with any of the Chrono Trigger themes, period. It's a matter of fact that I tend to like battle themes MORE than the rest of the game music.

That's it though, those pieces, in Chrono Trigger, are awful.

That's your opinion, laddy.

Notice how many people in this thread keep posting their opinions as fact?

 

[FalloutJack]

I see no problem with any of the Chrono Trigger themes, period. It's a matter of fact that I tend to like battle themes MORE than the rest of the game music.

That's it though, those pieces, in Chrono Trigger, are awful.

That's your opinion, laddy.

Notice how many people in this thread keep posting their opinions as fact?

I did notice, including the OP. As for me, I said that "I see" no problems, meaning that I like them just fine, myself.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I did notice, including the OP. As for me, I said that "I see" no problems, meaning that I like them just fine, myself.

Oh, I wasn't accusing you.
It just looks like this current "argument" that flared up is the result of trolling.
Either that, or a few people in this topic genuinely don't understand what an opinion is, but they think they do.

 

[FalloutJack]

I did notice, including the OP. As for me, I said that "I see" no problems, meaning that I like them just fine, myself.

Oh, I wasn't accusing you.
It just looks like this current "argument" that flared up is the result of trolling.
Either that, or a few people in this topic genuinely don't understand what an opinion is, but they think they do.

Yes, that is a problem. Sort of why I turned on "Good Behavior Mode" before walking in. When the mod patrol walks by, I want to look SHINY.

 

[LeonLethality]

Two words for you OP

World Revolution.

 

[mangledmailman]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

maybe you should go back and read my explanation for all of that. i dont feel like retyping things. and there are better combat systems in turn based rpgs. you are wrong. there i told you. not that any comabt in a turn based rpg can be much better than any other considering that turn based combat leaves nearly no room for innovation or change, but final fantasy x's was better just by the fact that you could switch characters mid battle. now please read my long post to see where else you are wrong.

EDIT: also, having to buy new magic and stuff? that was a terrible idea. almost as bad as FFVIII where you had to take it from enemies and thats how you powered up your characters.

Eww, FFX was very basic with its combat system, hell it is the same as all the other ones. The only FF game to try something new was FFXII.

No other turnbased RPG has as a unique and nearly flawless combat system as CC. Now that I think about it the worlds in CT are more memorable but I still stand by CC ultimately being the better game. Face it, the game came out years after it should and is better.

LOL just because a game came out later doesnt mean its better! tons of sequels are TERRIBLE!!! using that logic would mean that every game on the playstation 2 is undoubtedly better than the every game on the ps1. that is a HORRID reason to say why a game is better.

but there wasnt really anything good about crosses battle system. there wasnt anything supremely bad about it, but if you think it was anything special than your wrong. it was just another turn based system, with the gimmick of letting you choose what sparkles and lights emit from your characters hands. and then having to go back and buy more sparks and lights. seriously buying the magic was crap. and equipping items? whos stupid idea was that?

maybe you need to "face it" and realize that trigger is better in nearly all respects.

 

[Marsell]

Magus. Shit be so Cash

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

Honestly, I think battle and boss themes for the overwhelming majority of games are terrible.

So often you get these amazing sweeping orchestral soundtracks filled with memorable phrases and then as soon as you go into battle it sounds generic and uninteresting. I just wish game composers would realize that battle doesn't need to be accompanied by excessively loud timpanis and horns. And I might start crying if I have to listen one more battle or boss theme that alternates between long horn notes and sections of staccato horn notes.

 

[-Seraph-]

While the standard battle themes were not the best, they were still catchy and had a good rhythm to the fight. But calling Magus' theme, World Revolution, The secondary boss theme (plays when fighting Queen Zeal), or any of the other battle themes terrible is just wrong. even the Final final boss theme was good, it had an otherworldly sense to it that felt like all of time and space collided together.

All the other music in Trigger was great and saying otherwise just doesn't do it justice. Each theme perfectly fit the setting and mood of the situation from the wondrous feeling you get from Zeal Kingdom, the otherworldly tunes of the Undersea Palace/Black Omen, to the almost sad and heart warming theme as Frog reminisces of Cyrus. Chrono Trigger has one of the most consistently best made sound tracks of any game ever, and it captures emotion and tone perfectly.

Really, despite how primitive the sound technology was, it still managed to create a sound track that trumps most game music today which a lot lately feels too ambient and forgettable.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

i guess if you like a game with 40 undeveloped characters thrown into an incoherent plot, then chrono cross is the game for you.

if you want a game with a few very well developed characters revolving around an original and immersive plot, than you might like chrono trigger.

to think that cross, though a good game, is better than trigger is pretty ignorant. and having your first line of reasoning for that being "better boss battle music" is just more ignorance.

How about

Better Music
More content (a lot of characters to unlock and little hidden parts of the game that you need to search for to unlock)
Great Story (IDK what you were talking about)
BEST COMBAT SYSTEM IN A TURNBASED RPG (tell me I'm wrong)
Better visuals

Thats reason enough for it to be a better game.

maybe you should go back and read my explanation for all of that. i dont feel like retyping things. and there are better combat systems in turn based rpgs. you are wrong. there i told you. not that any comabt in a turn based rpg can be much better than any other considering that turn based combat leaves nearly no room for innovation or change, but final fantasy x's was better just by the fact that you could switch characters mid battle. now please read my long post to see where else you are wrong.

EDIT: also, having to buy new magic and stuff? that was a terrible idea. almost as bad as FFVIII where you had to take it from enemies and thats how you powered up your characters.

Eww, FFX was very basic with its combat system, hell it is the same as all the other ones. The only FF game to try something new was FFXII.

No other turnbased RPG has as a unique and nearly flawless combat system as CC. Now that I think about it the worlds in CT are more memorable but I still stand by CC ultimately being the better game. Face it, the game came out years after it should and is better.

LOL just because a game came out later doesnt mean its better! tons of sequels are TERRIBLE!!! using that logic would mean that every game on the playstation 2 is undoubtedly better than the every game on the ps1. that is a HORRID reason to say why a game is better.

but there wasnt really anything good about crosses battle system. there wasnt anything supremely bad about it, but if you think it was anything special than your wrong. it was just another turn based system, with the gimmick of letting you choose what sparkles and lights emit from your characters hands. and then having to go back and buy more sparks and lights. seriously buying the magic was crap. and equipping items? whos stupid idea was that?

maybe you need to "face it" and realize that trigger is better in nearly all respects.

Do you read properly? I said its a sequel so it SHOULD be better and it is. I never stated that all sequels were better than the originals.

The combat in the game used a system where the magic (that you needed to buy like in the beloved FFVII) is supposed to be used to exploit the weaknesses of the enemy. You also had plan how you would want to attack, whether you'd want to save up the damage multiplier to use high level skills or damage your enemy with low level ones. The combat in Trigger is basic. Yes you have abilities for each character (that feature is also in Cross) and can combine skills with other characters (like in Cross) but other than that its the basic "wait for the bar to fill then press attack" seen in X amount of RPG's. Nothing memorable there.

The choose your own adventure type gameplay in Chrono Cross, is also a welcome feature. Allowing players to have different experiences when playing the game and allows for multiple playthroughs.

I don't see the problem with buying skils. The most rare ones you steal from bosses and then the rest are bought to be distributed amongst the many playable characters. It seems you are just trying to find a reason to hate on Cross. Its better in nearly all aspects (I gave you plot aren't you satisfied?), hence its higher metacritic score.

 

[PhunkyPhazon]

I'm one of the few people who actually likes Trigger's soundtrack better then Cross's. I didn't find much of Cross's music to be all that catchy. Trigger, on the other hand, has Frog's Theme, World Revolution, Magus's Theme, Robo's the- you know what, let's just say pretty much every character's theme is catchy. And then of course there's the main theme, which only shows up in Cross if you sit around in the overworld for a minute.

That being said though, Cross has this:


That part of the game was just so sad, and I remember it so well because of this track.

Spoiler

I wanted to hug the three year-old Kid when this was playing. And Lucca? Lucca!? LUUUUUUUUUCCCCCAAAAAA!!!! FUCK YOU, YOU STUPID FURRY ASSHOLE!