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GeneralAlvarez

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I can just SEE myself surfing through thousands of fan boy comments just from writing that title, but I've got the urge to write again so I might as well keep going.

Let me paint the scene for you, if you please:

It's Friday afternoon and the sun is setting in the distance while all the little animals in the world get ready to go back to bed, but not you. No, sir. You're on your car going about five miles above the speed limit [or telling your mom to drive faster] and you're in a frantic hurry to get to the game store. You've been saving up money for months working on your dead end job where you clean the floors and mop the walls. You're not very good at it but the pay is enough to keep you alive and thanks to a few skipped meals you now have enough money to buy the PSP-GO! Yes, all your friends have it and they've been playing games and having fun without you, the jerks. But no more! It's your turn to have fun. Finally you arrive at the video store and thank whatever godlike entity you believe in that it's completely empty. You get your PSP and you run to the box to pay for it. The cashier girl is smoking hot and she's flirting with you but you don't even give a damn. You've got a PSP-go, the latest in Sony hand held hardware! Finally she gives you your receipt, you're tick it out of here and back home, and now you're heading towards the door! But! just as you leave you catch a glimpse of a nearby advertising box and read the ten words that will ruin your day. Forever.

"Make sure to save up for the new Sony NGP!"

FFFFFFFFFF*oh my*
 
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You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.
 

SovietSecrets

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Apple is way worse. ITS THE SAME EXACT THING EXCEPT ITS A TINY BIT FASTER AND THINNER! HOLY SHIT! Sony is all right compared to Apple. Hell Sony is all right compared to nothing.
 

BENZOOKA

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I don't know much about gaming hand-helds, but this goes for all hardware: It's best to do some research and not impulsively buy everything that's marketed.

If something is going to be obsolete, not supported anymore, not going to keep it's price-quality value for long, or otherwise superseded or replaced; you should look for something else.

And I really don't see how Sony is putting up new models too quickly... PSP came out 6 years ago, followed by better versions, and PSP Go, which came out two years ago, is just another PSP model. I don't follow this area, but I've heard about NGP some time ago already. And it isn't coming even to Japan until the end of this year.
 

DasDestroyer

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GeneralAlvarez said:
The_Healer said:
Are you complaining about progress?

Go live with the mormons man.
Excuse me. We PREFER to be called MORMEN.
Dr. Hibbert said:
And hillbillies want to be called "Sons of the Soil," but it ain't gonna happen.
OT: What everyone's already said - Apple is worse in this sense.
 

Something Amyss

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GeneralAlvarez said:
I can just SEE myself surfing through thousands of fan boy comments just from writing that title, but I've got the urge to write again so I might as well keep going.

Let me paint the scene for you, if you please:

It's Friday afternoon and the sun is setting in the distance while all the little animals in the world get ready to go back to bed, but not you. No, sir. You're on your car going about five miles above the speed limit [or telling your mom to drive faster] and you're in a frantic hurry to get to the game store. You've been saving up money for months working on your dead end job where you clean the floors and mop the walls. You're not very good at it but the pay is enough to keep you alive and thanks to a few skipped meals you now have enough money to buy the PSP-GO! Yes, all your friends have it and they've been playing games and having fun without you, the jerks. But no more! It's your turn to have fun. Finally you arrive at the video store and thank whatever godlike entity you believe in that it's completely empty. You get your PSP and you run to the box to pay for it. The cashier girl is smoking hot and she's flirting with you but you don't even give a damn. You've got a PSP-go, the latest in Sony hand held hardware! Finally she gives you your receipt, you're tick it out of here and back home, and now you're heading towards the door! But! just as you leave you catch a glimpse of a nearby advertising box and read the ten words that will ruin your day. Forever.

"Make sure to save up for the new Sony NGP!"

FFFFFFFFFF*oh my*
At the risk of being labeled a "fanboy," allow me to say...

YEAH! HOW DAMN THOSE BASTARDS RELEASE A NEW HANDHELD AFTER FIVE YEARS!

If you wanted to play with your friends, you could have even gone with an older, non-Go model like I did, for much cheaper. Probably could have even gone used, if things are so tight.

Daystar Clarion said:
You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.

The PSP-2000 (marketed in PAL areas as "PSP Slim & Lite" and still marketed as PSP in North America, Japan, China, India, Italy, and Portugal)[71] is the first redesign of the PlayStation Portable.

At E3 2007, Sony released information about a slimmer and lighter version of the PlayStation Portable.[72] The new PSP was announced to be 33% lighter and 19% slimmer than the original PSP system.[72] The model numbers were changed to PSP-2000, following the previous region-based numbering scheme (cf. the PSP-1000 numbering scheme of the "old" PSP model).


Yeah, Sony doesn't do that.
 
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TU4AR said:
Daystar Clarion said:
You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.
EcksTeaSea said:
Apple is way worse. ITS THE SAME EXACT THING EXCEPT ITS A TINY BIT FASTER AND THINNER! HOLY SHIT! Sony is all right compared to Apple. Hell Sony is all right compared to nothing.
From some guy's tumblr:

"?apple sucks? because they put out a product one year and update it a year later. people have no problems bitching about this until their face turns blue. how many models of computer does apple release yearly?

apply that to Asus, Acer, Dell, Compaq, HP, etc, who manufacture new machines (PC, laptop, netbook, all-in-one, etc) constantly. apply that to component manufacturers such as ATI or nVidia, who are constantly updating video card specs apply that to any portable phone or media player manufacturer. apply it to Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, all of which are guilty of the same re-releasing of products with a couple updates here and there (hey nintendo, 4 DSes (original, lite, i, XL) and 4 GBAs (original, SP, SP model 2, Micro)?) at the same (or higher in some cases) price.

why is apple updating their products yearly some kind of big issue when other companies do it, well, monthly? people that spend thousands each year updating their electronic devices are spending no more than people that pick up the new apple products when they hit shelves.

it?s very easy to hate something because it?s popular or it has a holier-than-thou userbase. give yourselves a real reason to hate something, instead (closed software / hardware is not a real reason, since when is this absolutely positively standard?)."
Because none of those companies act as if their product is revolutionising the industry? I have no problem with Apple releasing updates. I have a problem with the way it advertises these updates. Making your MP3 player slightly smaller is not a revolution.
 
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Zachary Amaranth said:
GeneralAlvarez said:
I can just SEE myself surfing through thousands of fan boy comments just from writing that title, but I've got the urge to write again so I might as well keep going.

Let me paint the scene for you, if you please:

It's Friday afternoon and the sun is setting in the distance while all the little animals in the world get ready to go back to bed, but not you. No, sir. You're on your car going about five miles above the speed limit [or telling your mom to drive faster] and you're in a frantic hurry to get to the game store. You've been saving up money for months working on your dead end job where you clean the floors and mop the walls. You're not very good at it but the pay is enough to keep you alive and thanks to a few skipped meals you now have enough money to buy the PSP-GO! Yes, all your friends have it and they've been playing games and having fun without you, the jerks. But no more! It's your turn to have fun. Finally you arrive at the video store and thank whatever godlike entity you believe in that it's completely empty. You get your PSP and you run to the box to pay for it. The cashier girl is smoking hot and she's flirting with you but you don't even give a damn. You've got a PSP-go, the latest in Sony hand held hardware! Finally she gives you your receipt, you're tick it out of here and back home, and now you're heading towards the door! But! just as you leave you catch a glimpse of a nearby advertising box and read the ten words that will ruin your day. Forever.

"Make sure to save up for the new Sony NGP!"

FFFFFFFFFF*oh my*
At the risk of being labeled a "fanboy," allow me to say...

YEAH! HOW DAMN THOSE BASTARDS RELEASE A NEW HANDHELD AFTER FIVE YEARS!

If you wanted to play with your friends, you could have even gone with an older, non-Go model like I did, for much cheaper. Probably could have even gone used, if things are so tight.

Daystar Clarion said:
You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.

The PSP-2000 (marketed in PAL areas as "PSP Slim & Lite" and still marketed as PSP in North America, Japan, China, India, Italy, and Portugal)[71] is the first redesign of the PlayStation Portable.

At E3 2007, Sony released information about a slimmer and lighter version of the PlayStation Portable.[72] The new PSP was announced to be 33% lighter and 19% slimmer than the original PSP system.[72] The model numbers were changed to PSP-2000, following the previous region-based numbering scheme (cf. the PSP-1000 numbering scheme of the "old" PSP model).


Yeah, Sony doesn't do that.
Does it release a new, lighter version every year? No? Then my point still stands.
 

omega 616

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GeneralAlvarez said:
I can just SEE myself surfing through thousands of fan boy comments just from writing that title, but I've got the urge to write again so I might as well keep going.

Let me paint the scene for you, if you please:

It's Friday afternoon and the sun is setting in the distance while all the little animals in the world get ready to go back to bed, but not you. No, sir. You're on your car going about five miles above the speed limit [or telling your mom to drive faster] and you're in a frantic hurry to get to the game store. You've been saving up money for months working on your dead end job where you clean the floors and mop the walls. You're not very good at it but the pay is enough to keep you alive and thanks to a few skipped meals you now have enough money to buy the PSP-GO! Yes, all your friends have it and they've been playing games and having fun without you, the jerks. But no more! It's your turn to have fun. Finally you arrive at the video store and thank whatever godlike entity you believe in that it's completely empty. You get your PSP and you run to the box to pay for it. The cashier girl is smoking hot and she's flirting with you but you don't even give a damn. You've got a PSP-go, the latest in Sony hand held hardware! Finally she gives you your receipt, you're tick it out of here and back home, and now you're heading towards the door! But! just as you leave you catch a glimpse of a nearby advertising box and read the ten words that will ruin your day. Forever.

"Make sure to save up for the new Sony NGP!"

FFFFFFFFFF*oh my*
As Homer simpson once said, "you take along time to say nothing".

Did you just spend 14 lines saying "Sony is realeasing a new hand held and those who have just bought a PSP might be a little frustrated"? Dear lord.

Anyway, whats to discuss here? Tech moves on, thats the reason I just spent a minute or two reading a 14 line short story. It's the reason a mobile phone can have the same camera as a camera and do a fuck tonne of things with the billion apps for download.
 

SovietSecrets

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TU4AR said:
Daystar Clarion said:
You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.
EcksTeaSea said:
Apple is way worse. ITS THE SAME EXACT THING EXCEPT ITS A TINY BIT FASTER AND THINNER! HOLY SHIT! Sony is all right compared to Apple. Hell Sony is all right compared to nothing.
From some guy's tumblr:

"?apple sucks? because they put out a product one year and update it a year later. people have no problems bitching about this until their face turns blue. how many models of computer does apple release yearly?

apply that to Asus, Acer, Dell, Compaq, HP, etc, who manufacture new machines (PC, laptop, netbook, all-in-one, etc) constantly. apply that to component manufacturers such as ATI or nVidia, who are constantly updating video card specs apply that to any portable phone or media player manufacturer. apply it to Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, all of which are guilty of the same re-releasing of products with a couple updates here and there (hey nintendo, 4 DSes (original, lite, i, XL) and 4 GBAs (original, SP, SP model 2, Micro)?) at the same (or higher in some cases) price.

why is apple updating their products yearly some kind of big issue when other companies do it, well, monthly? people that spend thousands each year updating their electronic devices are spending no more than people that pick up the new apple products when they hit shelves.

it?s very easy to hate something because it?s popular or it has a holier-than-thou userbase. give yourselves a real reason to hate something, instead (closed software / hardware is not a real reason, since when is this absolutely positively standard?)."
Right, but see I don't care about its popularity or user base. I care they release a product and market it as the next big thing in the world when its the same exact thing. I mean shit the iPad is a few iTouches sewed together. iPad 2 isn't a great big thing that everyone should be excited about, but is. I don't see the insane amount of marketing and excitement for a new computer or graphics card that is released every year because those companies know they haven't changed much. Apple goes about it making it look like they are changing everything. Thats a real reason to hate something right there.

Oh and since you gave me the great idea of taking something off of someones tumblr, heres Maddox http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
 
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TU4AR said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Because none of those companies act as if their product is revolutionising the industry? I have no problem with Apple releasing updates. I have a problem with the way it advertises these updates. Making your MP3 player slightly smaller is not a revolution.
So you're mad at them for marketing their products well? You have an issue with the company for using a tactic that's as old as the market itself to sell it's own products? Wow man. Like, I get that you don't like their strategy, but it works, and you can't hold that against them so much. You'd do the same in their position, and so would every other company if they could get away with it, because it just works so damn well.

And for the record, I'm no huge fan of Apple either, so I'm not some rabid fanboy trying to tell you they're gods. They ain't. But disliking them for being good at marketing just seems silly.
They're not good at marketing. If they were good at marketing then I would have bought an iPad. They're good re-selling the same thing over and over. So yes, I suppose they're good at marketing. Doesn't mean they're good at making quality products without ripping people off.
 

DasDestroyer

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Zachary Amaranth said:
GeneralAlvarez said:
I can just SEE myself surfing through thousands of fan boy comments just from writing that title, but I've got the urge to write again so I might as well keep going.

Let me paint the scene for you, if you please:

It's Friday afternoon and the sun is setting in the distance while all the little animals in the world get ready to go back to bed, but not you. No, sir. You're on your car going about five miles above the speed limit [or telling your mom to drive faster] and you're in a frantic hurry to get to the game store. You've been saving up money for months working on your dead end job where you clean the floors and mop the walls. You're not very good at it but the pay is enough to keep you alive and thanks to a few skipped meals you now have enough money to buy the PSP-GO! Yes, all your friends have it and they've been playing games and having fun without you, the jerks. But no more! It's your turn to have fun. Finally you arrive at the video store and thank whatever godlike entity you believe in that it's completely empty. You get your PSP and you run to the box to pay for it. The cashier girl is smoking hot and she's flirting with you but you don't even give a damn. You've got a PSP-go, the latest in Sony hand held hardware! Finally she gives you your receipt, you're tick it out of here and back home, and now you're heading towards the door! But! just as you leave you catch a glimpse of a nearby advertising box and read the ten words that will ruin your day. Forever.

"Make sure to save up for the new Sony NGP!"

FFFFFFFFFF*oh my*
At the risk of being labeled a "fanboy," allow me to say...

YEAH! HOW DAMN THOSE BASTARDS RELEASE A NEW HANDHELD AFTER FIVE YEARS!

If you wanted to play with your friends, you could have even gone with an older, non-Go model like I did, for much cheaper. Probably could have even gone used, if things are so tight.

Daystar Clarion said:
You moan about Sony updating it's consoles, with actual updates, when Apple exists? Releasing the iPad 2! That's 0.00025% thinner!?

Odd that.

The PSP-2000 (marketed in PAL areas as "PSP Slim & Lite" and still marketed as PSP in North America, Japan, China, India, Italy, and Portugal)[71] is the first redesign of the PlayStation Portable.

At E3 2007, Sony released information about a slimmer and lighter version of the PlayStation Portable.[72] The new PSP was announced to be 33% lighter and 19% slimmer than the original PSP system.[72] The model numbers were changed to PSP-2000, following the previous region-based numbering scheme (cf. the PSP-1000 numbering scheme of the "old" PSP model).


Yeah, Sony doesn't do that.
You're right, it doesn't. First of all it releases a new version every 2-3 years, rather than 1, and second of all, it actually adds some worthwhile improvements.