Poll: Spanking vs Grounding

[pat34us]

I was doing research for a debate for my speech class and ran into some youtube videos reguarding this website. http://www.videodaregame.com/calculator/grounded.php

The basic idea is to get out of grounding you type your info into the website and it tells you how many spanks you need to get to get out of the grounding. I know a lot of you are to old now but when you were younger would you have considered trying something like this?

 

[El Poncho]

No because my parents could never follow through with their groundings.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Is it too much to do both? It was my experience that both were involved.

 

[SomeLameStuff]

I was never grounded. My parents always brought out the metal rod / hangers whenever I messed up.

 

[Exterminas]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

 

[benderinTime]

Well, I was hit more than just a spanking's worth for any punishment, so no, not really.
I was never grounded, though.

 

[Gigaguy64]

Actually yea, there were times while growing up i wished i had just been spanked instead of grounded.
Especially if it involved by handhealds taken away right before a looooooong car trip or something.

 

[Gigaguy64]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

That's why if you punish your child you always make sure that he/she knows the reason for the punishment.
And you can explain to your child why they were punished even if you punish with a spanking or Grounding you know.

 

[Exterminas]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

That's why if you punish your child you always make sure that he/she knows the reason for the punishment.
And you can explain to your child why they were punished even if you punish with a spanking or Grounding you know.

That is true, but the best way to make a child understand it's failure is to creat a punishment that emphazised the importance of the broken rule.

Example given: Child breaks window while playing. Child gets to clean up broken glass and gets to pay the window from it's allowance.

This method has two advantages:
1) It is harder for the child to just say that they'd understand it, to get off the hook.
2) If you as a parent can't think of any punishment that would show why said rule is important, then may be there is no real reason to punish. Except of may be a personal insult or a subjective world view. You'r children are not supposed to be you.

 

[pat34us]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

That's why if you punish your child you always make sure that he/she knows the reason for the punishment.
And you can explain to your child why they were punished even if you punish with a spanking or Grounding you know.

That is true, but the best way to make a child understand it's failure is to creat a punishment that emphazised the importance of the broken rule.

Example given: Child breaks window while playing. Child gets to clean up broken glass and gets to pay the window from it's allowance.

This method has two advantages:
1) It is harder for the child to just say that they'd understand it, to get off the hook.
2) If you as a parent can't think of any punishment that would show why said rule is important, then may be there is no real reason to punish. Except of may be a personal insult or a subjective world view. You'r children are not supposed to be you.

Unless the kid broke another rule when the window broke having them help clean it up would be the way to go.

An example: When I was 16 I was caught shoplifting, I was grounded for 30 days (a month). My parents didn't believe in spanking but if the internet was around to give me the idea I might have asked for one instead.

 

[Gigaguy64]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

That's why if you punish your child you always make sure that he/she knows the reason for the punishment.
And you can explain to your child why they were punished even if you punish with a spanking or Grounding you know.

That is true, but the best way to make a child understand it's failure is to create a punishment that emphasized the importance of the broken rule.

Example given: Child breaks window while playing. Child gets to clean up broken glass and gets to pay the window from it's allowance.

This method has two advantages:
1) It is harder for the child to just say that they'd understand it, to get off the hook.
2) If you as a parent can't think of any punishment that would show why said rule is important, then may be there is no real reason to punish instead of personal insult or a subjectiv world view. You children are not supposed to be you.

That i do agree with.
Though for your example its more like taking responsibility than a punishment.

Anyway imo Spankings work best on younger children and as a way to get their attention.
Sometime that kid will NOT listen to what you say at all.
So a couple of smacks on the behind may be needed.

But creating a punishment that helps the child understand the importance of they rule they broke and why the consequences are there is always the best way to go.

 

[Exterminas]

@pat34us

Did that teach you anything about why stealing is wrong?
Moral acting because of fear of punishment is one of the lowest forms of moral acting.
I would not want to raise my kids to that.

 

[LupusDei]

My father never had control of me, and spanks? Hah, not unless he wanted to really piss me off.

Grounding, Meh I climbed out the window most times, Unless I knew I really deserved it.

 

[steph01a]

I've been grounded .. and spanked. I prefer spanked.

 

[rokkolpo]

No need for more spanking, just spank HARDER!

My parents could never see through when grounding me.
They just spanked me when I was being an idiot.
Which I don't blame them for in the slightest.
(actually I thank them)

 

[pat34us]

@pat34us

Did that teach you anything about why stealing is wrong?
Moral acting because of fear of punishment is one of the lowest forms of moral acting.
I would not want to raise my kids to that.

More or less the disappointment in my parents eyes taught me the lesson, grounding a 16 year old for 30 days is harsh.

 

[mindlesspuppet]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

That's why if you punish your child you always make sure that he/she knows the reason for the punishment.
And you can explain to your child why they were punished even if you punish with a spanking or Grounding you know.

That is true, but the best way to make a child understand it's failure is to creat a punishment that emphazised the importance of the broken rule.

Example given: Child breaks window while playing. Child gets to clean up broken glass and gets to pay the window from it's allowance.

This method has two advantages:
1) It is harder for the child to just say that they'd understand it, to get off the hook.
2) If you as a parent can't think of any punishment that would show why said rule is important, then may be there is no real reason to punish. Except of may be a personal insult or a subjective world view. You'r children are not supposed to be you.

So, your parents are punishing you for punching the neighbor in the face; they make you stand still and let the neighbor blast you?

Anyhow, the only real way to punish a kid is to beat the shit out them. In fact it's best if they don't even know why you're beating them, that way they'd be afraid of doing absolutely anything that might be slightly wrong.

Edit: Feel like I should make note that I'm semi-joking here.

I don't really feel like there's a decent way to punish kids. The best thing to do is try to prevent situations in which they need punished for.

I never understood the whole concept of grounding. I could see why it works for small children, but for teenagers? How exactly do you ground a teenager? They are absolutely capable of simply leaving, and how will you punish them for that, grounding them again?

 

[ham and red bull]

Grounding? I was forced to leave the house. -.-

 

[Lilani]

This whole topic seems odd to me, because my parents never grounded me. Spanking worked just fine, and I believe I am better off because of it.

So many parents shy away from corporal punishment these days it's sickening. My mom has worked at an elementary school for 14 years and she can almost instantly tell the kids who are spanked from the kids who are not.

For example, there was once a third grader who was brought in by his mother every day. And every day he would throw a fit and refuse to come into the building. His mother did nothing to help them get him in. So every day the rather muscular P.E. instructor would have to literally DRAG the kid into the building. The school counselor was always present to be witness so they could prove no abuse was occurring. He would only calm down when they finally got him to the classroom.

But every once in a while his dad would bring him in. As it turns out, the two were separated. And whenever his dad brought him in, he was perfectly happy and behaved just fine.

So one day my mom asks him about this. The dad explains that when he's with his mother, she lets the boy do whatever he wants. She tries to put him in time outs, but they do nothing and he just gets right up and goes back to what he's doing. But whenever he's with his dad, his dad makes him mind and spanks him when he refuses to listen.

I do believe there is a world of difference between punishment and abuse. However, I also believe that corporal punishment is a viable and effective option when all else fails.

 

[Danish rage]

Both are absolutely retarded punishments and any parent who has even a remote understanding of basic education mechanics won't apply them.

A punishment that does not require a child to understand the reason it is punished for, isn't worth anything.

You are spot on.

Spanking is nothing more than violence and groundings today are a joke considering the internet, cable, console and all that other crap we as parent buy to our kids. Most kids today see it as a punishment to get kicked outside though. A cut in allowance or a financial compensation if the kid has a job is something they understand. Funny enough much like the real world money has the final word.

There are so many things wrong with fysical punsihment towards kids i don´t know where to begin.
Fortunally you go to jail for it where i live. And if i see you spank a kid, im gonna call social sevices on you´re ass soooooo fast.
Sry for gramma.