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thoughtwrangler

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I'd been reading a lot about how "Sitting is the New Smoking". For those who haven't come across the topic, one such article is here
( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-active-times/sitting-is-the-new-smokin_b_5890006.html ). A google search will turn up more.

We know the drill: Correlation doesn't equal causation, etc. etc. This may be an exception to that, however, as even runners and fairly athletic people who eat healthy but have sedentary day jobs can be negatively impacted by this. On the other hand, I'm not particularly athletic and I like Ramen, so yeah.

I'll post my story below, but I wanted to know: Is anyone else doing this? Is anyone interested in this sort of thing? What sort of challenges or obstacles do you face?

Here's how I came into it: I used to work retail which already required me to stay on my feet, but that was about 8 years gone, and I've been working in an office ever since. Which of course meant sitting on my butt.

A couple months ago, I dipped my toe in the water and decided to spend 5 hours on my feet. It was a challenge at first. There was the initial foot pain, back pain, etc. and am now standing for 10 hours a day (I work four days a week). For the past few weeks I've been walking (one step forward, one step back) for about 2-3 hours a day.

Interestingly enough, the main challenges haven't been physical, but mental. We only have the half-cubicle walls, so if I stand, everyone can see me. It's a weird sensation, but I eventually moved past it. Walking made that part even more challenging, but the results were worth it.

Walking also made concentrating on my work a bit of a challenge. I work customer service for a healthcare company, so juggling my calls with walking made things interesting. However, my performance is still high, and my handle times have actually gone down. I'm not sure why yet.

I'll be working from home pretty soon, and if I can save up enough scratch, I'll probably get a treadmill desk.

What I can say is that the 40 hours of standing and walking have had tremendous benefits compared to the "cost." It's time that I'm already spending at work anyway, so it doesn't intrude on my schedule or affect my spare time. Things that used to wear me out like going to theme parks or keeping up with a 6-year-old are much easier. I don't snore, I sleep better and I've lost weight.

The downside is that those old stretch marks look much worse on us guys than they do on women :( Apparently we can't claim they're tiger stripes.
 

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I would love to do something like that. I'm a big believer in the "move around" mentality but unfortunately at my work, I'm not sure how well that would actually work. While it is a "sedentary" job, I have to be able to move myself around the desk I'm at due to the nature of needing multiple documents and things to look at at the same time. I also do review work (which involves a lot of reading and close scrutiny of loan documents) and frankly, reading while doing movement just doesn't work very well. Maybe I'd get used to it...

I have considered though buying one of those little pedal bike things. I have one at my home[footnote]This thing if you were wondering [http://www.amazon.com/Stamina-15-0120-InStride-Cycle-XL/dp/B000PEM63K/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1428165274&sr=8-11&keywords=Exercise+bike+pedals][/footnote] for when I'm watching Netflix and I've always wondered how well it would fit under my desk.

I do make sure to get up at least once a hour in order to move around. Half the time to go to the bathroom and half the time to wake myself up and just move to get the blood flowing. It's also kind of silly but I do like bounce my feet up and down to the drum beat (like you would a kick pedal) of whatever I'm listening to (rock fan!); I don't know if that actually helps or not but I feel a little movement in the legs like that is better than no movement.
 

thoughtwrangler

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tippy2k2 said:
I would love to do something like that. I'm a big believer in the "move around" mentality but unfortunately at my work, I'm not sure how well that would actually work. While it is a "sedentary" job, I have to be able to move myself around the desk I'm at due to the nature of needing multiple documents and things to look at at the same time. I also do review work (which involves a lot of reading and close scrutiny of loan documents) and frankly, reading while doing movement just doesn't work very well. Maybe I'd get used to it...
I guess it depends on whether you're having to read from print, or on a screen. It's much easier to read from a stationary computer screen while moving compared to a piece of paper that moves with you as you're holding it. But it sounds like you're actually getting up several times a day. That's probably challenging in its own right since you have to break momentum.
I have considered though buying one of those little pedal bike things. I have one at my home[footnote]This thing if you were wondering [http://www.amazon.com/Stamina-15-0120-InStride-Cycle-XL/dp/B000PEM63K/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1428165274&sr=8-11&keywords=Exercise+bike+pedals][/footnote] for when I'm watching Netflix and I've always wondered how well it would fit under my desk.
That's... actually a really good idea. I'll have to check that out since I'll be working from home soon. I could use it for my home netflix binges too.
I do make sure to get up at least once a hour in order to move around. Half the time to go to the bathroom and half the time to wake myself up and just move to get the blood flowing. It's also kind of silly but I do like bounce my feet up and down to the drum beat (like you would a kick pedal) of whatever I'm listening to (rock fan!); I don't know if that actually helps or not but I feel a little movement in the legs like that is better than no movement.
I think you're right that some movement is better than none at all. Kudos on doing what you can at home too :)
 

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I would, and I usually stand up when I'm recording my voice, but my legs get amazingly shaky when I stand up for too long.

It's part of my long list of "medical" problems that may or may not be real.

But seriously they shake like it's hurricane season.
 

SoreWristed

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Right now, due to a medical condition in my lower back, I would not be able to stand much longer than two hours. I used to have an active outdoorsy job, evenly active when it took me indoors, so I never needed anything to make me more active during the day. The long car ride to and fro was sometimes all the sitting I would do in a day.

Now that I'm looking for a new, less active job (thanks for nothing, spine..) I do intend to get me a treadmill to walk/jog/eventually run while I watch netflix. It would be better for me to train up muscles needed to support my back, and it can be done in shorter periods and at a pace that I set. Doing the standing workout thing at work would leave me crippled halfway through the day with no hope of recovering that same day. Much rather be exhausted and crippled at home, but still be able to show up for work the next day, no?

Safe to say I'll be using an office chair and be very happy about it.

sky14kemea said:
I would, and I usually stand up when I'm recording my voice, but my legs get amazingly shaky when I stand up for too long.

It's part of my long list of "medical" problems that may or may not be real.

But seriously they shake like it's hurricane season.
I've had the same symptoms the past months. It may be due to disc-bulging in your spine, which presses against the nerves going to your legs. It can cause loss of power in your legs.

Alternatively, the muscles that keep your balance are surprisingly high up your back, reaching all the way to your lowest ribs. If these are in some way not strong enough to truly support you, you can get shaky legs. A workout that trains these, while respecting your spine, would be to practice alternating between standing tiptoe and on your heel while standing on one leg. I've only had to do these for a couple of weeks everyday, whenever I found myself standing still, to get some results. The first week though, you might want to have something sturdy nearby to hold onto.
 

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I start my day by walking 5 kilometers to the bus.
Then I alternate between sitting down (in a car) and walking, walking and pushing weight or walking and lifting weight.
Weight being everything a person can weigh (from 40kg to 150kg) plus the weight of the stretcher (30kg) and the occasional oxygen tank as well.
Then I end my workday by walking 5 kilometers home.

I also tend to skip breakfast and only usually eat lunch with the rare dinner when I have time.

I think I'm good, but I still don't "feel" healthy.
 

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I've actually read the study that first starting pushing this notion of "stand, don't sit" a few years ago, and came to a pretty firm conclusion: it's another example of the knee-jerk Puritan response to anything bearing the slightest whiff of hedonism. Should we get up and move around more? Sure. Are we weakening ourselves by going through the same (physically) rote tasks over and over and over again, day after day and year after year? Absolutely. Is the mutual solution doing these same tasks while standing up? If you want to treat the symptoms instead of the condition, sure. Otherwise, no. You don't put a band-aid on a decapitation victim.

That said, it's certainly not likely to hurt anything (within limits; my last job was working as a truck driver- I stand up doing that, and people die); more exercise is probably going to help your general condition and mood. But beware of anything that claims to be a simple cure to a complex problem- and anything that bases itself on what we biologically "should" do or "evolved" to be should be reminded that we left behind 50% infant mortality rates and average lifespans of 35 years for a reason.
 

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When I work I stand non-stop for a solid 8 hours. I don't get breaks because as a convenience store employee there are only two of us at a time for the most part and a break would leave the other person alone for 15 minutes, and that's really not fair considering how stupidly busy it can get (especially with the introduction of "Hot Food" (kebobs, pizza, etc) that make it even more important to have someone else there.

At the end of my shifts, even with some seriously expensive, well-supporting shoes, I hurt. I hurt a LOT. My upper back aches, my hips ache, my knees ache, my feet ache. On some days after working a shift it hurts to move around.


So long story short, I think this "let's stand while doing shit" isn't all it's cracked up to be.
 

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My job pretty much means I'm either standing in a store or i'm on the go with my feet hammering the ground, which leads to me sitting down a fair amount by the time I return home.

I have one day in which i'm in an office environment, minus the grandeur and clutter of what one would assume an office to be and even then I regularly have to get up to grab some required papers and general oddjobs I've been assigned (Plus i'm a fidgety bugger, especially on the phone keep on pacing up and down.), so I don't think I can relate to the sedentary lifestyle or the will to exercise without need for that matter.
 

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I work in retail too therefore I stand all the time and there is no chair at the cashier either! The only time when I'm not standing is either kneeling down at the lower shelf or looking underneath if for drop products!

So yeah there is no way in hell am I going to standing for gaming!
 

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I move around alot and stuff, as per my work, so sitting down isn't something I have much chance to do anyway.
 

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As always moderation is key, people develop problems because they sit in the same position for 8-12 hours every single day for years and more then likely go home and sit down yet again cascading the problem. This makes you susceptible to all sorts of muscle degradation and over stressing specific areas of the body, also because your muscles have degraded you get perpetually more comfortable resting them.

I do both physical and desk work, and have developed all sorts of sore areas, particularly my back. But they always come on when I'm doing one for far too long, if I get to do both in a day I feel amazing. If it's 12 hours of heavy lifting or plain sitting I feel like shit by the end, even sleep becomes a problem.
 

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I work in a laboratory, so unless I am on data analysis, then I am not allowed to sit down for health and safety reasons (I.e, if I spill something on the bench, if I am standing, I can move out the way quicker than if I was sitting down) and even when I am on data analysis, which requires me to go into the office to work, my boss goes around and ensures we get up and walk around for 15 minutes roughly every hour, which is quite helpful if you are spending 7 hours plus in front of a computer. Even when I have a day off I like to go out for a walk for at least an hour, so I very rarely sit down.
 

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I've found my back aches these days if I sit too long, it doesn't help that my sitting posture is terrible. I've actually started laying on my belly to use the computer, with mouse and keyboard on the floor staring up at the screen and my back feels way better.
 

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Sadly I sit too much, thanks to being in university and all that. At home and at the local game-café I try to intersperse my (board/card)gaming/stuff-watching time with a little standing up every now and then. I know sitting too much isn't healthy, and I hope I can change that later in life. But you can't exactly stroll around in a lecture hall.
Artina89 said:
I work in a laboratory, so unless I am on data analysis, then I am not allowed to sit down for health and safety reasons (I.e, if I spill something on the bench, if I am standing, I can move out the way quicker than if I was sitting down) and even when I am on data analysis, which requires me to go into the office to work, my boss goes around and ensures we get up and walk around for 15 minutes roughly every hour, which is quite helpful if you are spending 7 hours plus in front of a computer. Even when I have a day off I like to go out for a walk for at least an hour, so I very rarely sit down.
That's a progressive office you have there.
 

L. Declis

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I would love to, but most of my clients like me to sit and I would feel strange standing over them while they work. Plus my university also wouldn't appreciate me standing in the front row while the teacher teaches. I spent about 3 hours per day standing or walking, though, and I jog for half an hour every day. That's about as good as it gets.

While I'm working two jobs and studying, I doubt I can do this. However, in the future, when my work schedule calms a bit, I'll likely go walking more and go to the gym when I have time.
 

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I stand because otherwise I get pins and needles[footnote]imagine your leg feels like how white noise looks[/footnote], which make me stand up anyway.

I do have the option of sitting down, though. I just don't like it because the chairs can't support my fat ass.
 

Poetic Nova

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On days when I have my internetship I stand almost 8 hours (minor break aside to eat lunch).
Every time I feel it afterwards by having backpain.

So during gaming or other activities, I like to be able to sit down.