Poll: Star Ocean5 censored in the west, misses the point still

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http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/28/square-enix-gave-star-ocean-5s-miki-bigger-panties-in-fear-of-western-criticism/
In a hilarious attempt to appeal to western prudes, SE apparently decided to deal with pantyshots of young girls by...making their panties less sexy. Yep, they are letting them in, they just cover more of their rear now.

I find this hilarious as I don't think how sexy the underwear is will affect how people view potential loli pantyahots. At the same time, I will now be in high alert for other more severe changes. In the end imporing is always an options thankfully since ps3/4 are region free.
 

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Yep, I'm a prude for not wanting to bang a child : /

I don't think Square is the only one missing the point.
 

Dreiko_v1legacy

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Well, the char is apparently 18, so there's that. People simply won't bother lookin into it due to her design being as it is.


The point I made was that enlarging them doesn't really fix the issue the prudes have so in that sense they miss the point.
 

Fox12

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Dreiko said:
Well, the char is apparently 18, so there's that. People simply won't bother lookin into it due to her design being as it is.


The point I made was that enlarging them doesn't really fix the issue the prudes have so in that sense they miss the point.
You see, how can you expect anyone to actually take you seriously when you're throwing around terms like "prude?" From the very beginning you've shut down any potential for an intelligent and mature discussion. Is this really a "severe change?" I just can't bring myself to care about the size of a character's panties.

You're right about them missing the point, though. Square has a weird habit of doing this. In the end no one's happy.
 

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Fox12 said:
Dreiko said:
Well, the char is apparently 18, so there's that. People simply won't bother lookin into it due to her design being as it is.


The point I made was that enlarging them doesn't really fix the issue the prudes have so in that sense they miss the point.
You see, how can you expect anyone to actually take you seriously when you're throwing around terms like "prude?" From the very beginning you've shut down any potential for an intelligent and mature discussion. Is this really a "severe change?" I just can't bring myself to care about the size of a character's panties.

You're right about them missing the point, though. Square has a weird habit of doing this. In the end no one's happy.
Did I ever claim it to be severe though. All I claimed it to be is silly and amusing. I think you're mistaking this topic for an outrage topic when it is a humor topic instead lol.

Oh and you can have a serious discussion. I think anyone offended by panties on a fictional char being called prudeish is fair, personally.
 

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Dreiko said:
Fox12 said:
Dreiko said:
Well, the char is apparently 18, so there's that. People simply won't bother lookin into it due to her design being as it is.


The point I made was that enlarging them doesn't really fix the issue the prudes have so in that sense they miss the point.
You see, how can you expect anyone to actually take you seriously when you're throwing around terms like "prude?" From the very beginning you've shut down any potential for an intelligent and mature discussion. Is this really a "severe change?" I just can't bring myself to care about the size of a character's panties.

You're right about them missing the point, though. Square has a weird habit of doing this. In the end no one's happy.
Did I ever claim it to be severe though. All I claimed it to be is silly and amusing. I think you're mistaking this topic for an outrage topic when it is a humor topic instead lol.

Oh and you can have a serious discussion. I think anyone offended by panties on a fictional char being called prudeish is fair, personally.
Well I don't think everyone who finds characters designed to look young and sexual gross and fucked up is "offended"
They may just think it's gross and fucked up
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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I have a life to live so excuse me if I lack interest in every little fuckin' thing that people want to call "outrage" these days. I wouldn't care even if she didn't have any panties or if she was covered like those Muslim women from head to toe.
 
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I'm not offended by any of it, but I'm not going to play the game either. If people want to their kicks from that sort of thing, its no skin off my nose.
 

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I'm seriously wondering if tri-Ace/Square Enix is trying to stir controversy to put Star Ocean 5 on the radar...

I mean, look at Miki. She's a fully dressed adult and the only times you're going to see her panties is, if my assumptions based on other Star Ocean games and promotional material are correct, is when you make an effort to do so. This change affects nobody aside from the occassional perv that really, really cares about digital underwear.

Meanwhile, there's a halfnaked chessboard who's not leaving anything to anyone's imagination, aside from the colour of the carpet, perhaps.
 

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...oh, hey, Star Ocean 5 is a thing. Alright. That's news to me. Hopefully they hired some voice actors for this one, Last Hope was fucking atrocious in that regard.

...I'd answer your question, but given your poll is questioning me on being offended by teenage panties, I'm... doubtful of the intentions here. It does miss the point, I guess? Give her bike-shorts or something if you want to make the change, it's weird to just scroll up the scale bar a little and say 'jobs done'.
 

Zhukov

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Corey Schaff said:
<spoiler=feel the cringe><youtube=8ACoTMFBGhU>
There will come a day, a momentous and terrible day, where some snoopy individual will use my computer and look through my Youtube history.

On that day I shall blame everything on you people.
 

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Japanese fans are apparently upset with us in the western market about it. I'm sorry Japanese gamers, I think it's stupid too.
 

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Corey Schaff said:
They already had "Nappy Time with Edgy" in Last Hope, panty size is small potatoes.

<_< I 100%ed that game, English Voice Acting and all. Hopefully this isn't a sign that they're going to be dialing back the cringe; I didn't play the game for the deep plot, I played it to feel incredibly uncomfortable.

<spoiler=feel the cringe><youtube=8ACoTMFBGhU>
Well, cringe inducing, for sure. Wow.

And uhm. Yeah, changing the underwear doesn't really solve anything, but unless there are upskirt shots in the cutscenes it's not like you can fix this anyway.

If there's manual camera control, there's the possibility of perving on people.
I mean, that's true in real life as well, you can technically go up to a girl and look up her skirt, but the difference is she can probably see you doing that, and won't take kindly to it.

Since the camera in a game is non-corporeal, you can do it without consequence. But I'd like to see you solve this without causing bigger, more important problems...
 

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Zhukov said:
Corey Schaff said:
<spoiler=feel the cringe><youtube=8ACoTMFBGhU>
There will come a day, a momentous and terrible day, where some snoopy individual will use my computer and look through my Youtube history.

On that day I shall blame everything on you people.
Don't bother feel sad if this day come. Because in Greece even if they see you looking at Cartoons, you are ruined to get criticized...
That why I am waiting a Blu-Ray for Zootopia...

But yeah, I saw this in Star Ocean and it seems is ok:


THIS ABOVE IS OK!!!! LOGIC PEOPLE, USE IT MOTHERF*CKERS!!!!!
 

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CrystalShadow said:
Corey Schaff said:
They already had "Nappy Time with Edgy" in Last Hope, panty size is small potatoes.

<_< I 100%ed that game, English Voice Acting and all. Hopefully this isn't a sign that they're going to be dialing back the cringe; I didn't play the game for the deep plot, I played it to feel incredibly uncomfortable.

<spoiler=feel the cringe><youtube=8ACoTMFBGhU>
Well, cringe inducing, for sure. Wow.

And uhm. Yeah, changing the underwear doesn't really solve anything, but unless there are upskirt shots in the cutscenes it's not like you can fix this anyway.

If there's manual camera control, there's the possibility of perving on people.
I mean, that's true in real life as well, you can technically go up to a girl and look up her skirt, but the difference is she can probably see you doing that, and won't take kindly to it.

Since the camera in a game is non-corporeal, you can do it without consequence. But I'd like to see you solve this without causing bigger, more important problems...
You could have an NPC rant at the player for being a perv if the player manipulated the camera in certain ways.... In today's environment though, they'd probably tie it to an achievement. Can only imagine what the reaction to that particular decision would be.

OT - meh. From the video above, the game will probably have bigger problems than what underwear is being worn by NPCs.
 

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This is so, so, so, so minor. I can understand getting a little irked about an entire customization option changing, like in Xenoblade X, but this really is the tiniest change.
 

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Corey Schaff said:
They already had "Nappy Time with Edgy" in Last Hope, panty size is small potatoes.

<_< I 100%ed that game, English Voice Acting and all. Hopefully this isn't a sign that they're going to be dialing back the cringe; I didn't play the game for the deep plot, I played it to feel incredibly uncomfortable.

<spoiler=feel the cringe><youtube=8ACoTMFBGhU>
That was... that was hilarious. I mean I'm usually averse to cringe, but I thought they got that one just about right. Played out a little slow though, like a sitcom without the laugh track.