Poll: Star Trek Voyager: Yay or nay?

[Susan Arendt]

I happen to be working my way through TNG as we speak and I can confirm that virtually all of the first season is complete shit. The Borg show up very early in Season 2, so people aren't far off when they say that's when the show really started to pick up speed. But in truth, from the very beginning of Season 2, the entire show is way, way better.

Now, as to Voyager, I really enjoyed it. I thought Kate Mulgrew did a decent job as Janeway, given that she had a tough role to inhabit (and was only added to the cast at the very last minute), but she's certainly not my favorite captain. There were characters that I liked, others I didn't (thank gawd they got rid of Kes as soon as they could), but overall I thought the stories were really quite enjoyable.

Enterprise had its moments, but as soon as they went off to fight that war...yeaaaah, straight crap.

 

[Insanum]

Loved it, Best series in my opinion.

I still think the next series should be set AFTER Voyager.

 

[Geeza]

Not everyone hates nelix, Im 14 and im in a "rescource centre (special needs)" And the person who helps out in my lessons last year (9) Loves startrek and Her favourite is actualy nelix <3

As for me. I love janeway i have all the DVD's and i cant stop it

 

[Mustardcat666]

Wasn't bad, I liked it for the most part. Didn't much care for Janeway though.

 

[DND Judgement]

nothing on the original or TNG but far superior to DS9 or enterprise...

 

[RedPandaMan]

I personally really enjoyed the show, but that might be nostalgia getting in the way, seeing as it was the first one I saw and when I was a young kid too.

I just think a lot of people don't like for the fact that it was so different than the others: in a new quadrant with completely new aliens and no star-fleet in general. It gave the writers a lot of creative freedom, but I think fans in general don't like the new, and don't want their structure to change.

But yeah, I liked it a lot, since it gave me the best character ever: The Doctor.

 

[Xanadeas]

I rather enjoyed it. It was my favorite until I got into TNG. Not to mention it was rather refreshing after the retardation that was Deep Space Nine... Hello, Star Trek? It's about exploring, not sitting in a space station orbiting a lame planet. D<

 

[LiquidGrape]

While I understand the complaints regarding the writing to a certain extent, I wouldn't judge the series as a whole based on some, admittedly, rather mediocre episodes.
One in which interstellar flights at "infinite velocity" turns people into salamanders is one example of that kind of inscrutable storytelling.
But then there are those fuelled by ideas such as philosophy and sociology; the core factors which I consider the Trek-sagas greatest strength.
"Death Wish", an episode in which a creature of the Q-continuum wishes to commit suicide is a personal favourite of mine, and I was very happily surprised by the poignancy the script mustered.
To me it really stressed the point that mainstream entertainment doesn't necessarily call for moronic plot-devices or cheap thrills.

 

[historybuff]

My loyalties are still with Next Generation.

 

[Susan Arendt]

I rather enjoyed it. It was my favorite until I got into TNG. Not to mention it was rather refreshing after the retardation that was Deep Space Nine... Hello, Star Trek? It's about exploring, not sitting in a space station orbiting a lame planet. D<

Well, let's be fair. When DS9 launched, TNG was still on TV and very much in people's minds. They wanted to do a new Trek series, but didn't want to simply do TNG over again so...what to do? Well, every other Trek had been about exploration, so setting a Trek show in a single location actually made a lot of sense. Unfortunately, it just didn't quite hold up, and thus we got the Defiant and the war and suchlike.

 

[Monkey Dust]

I wouldn't say I disliked Voyager, but it never really drew me in like TNG and DS9 did. In fact of all of them DS9 is my favourite, but it looks like I'm on my own with that.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Voyager was ok because it had plenty of Borg in it otherwise I found the show a bit patronising

nelix told a lie.. ohh noo now he has to tell even bigger lies to cover up for the original lie.. what is he going to do...what should he have done in the first place


DS9 was a poor and less intelligent mans Babylon 5

 

[Monkey Dust]

Babylon 5, that was a great show. Haven't seen it for years though.

 

[Notion]

I just signed up on this forums, and this is the first thread that I've decided ill post on.

Anyway, I have to say Voyager is my favourite Star Trek it had two awesome characters, Neelix and the Docter. I loved there use of the holo deck, the show really made me want one. Plus, they also had an awesome episode where klingons are put into this hologram WW2 scenerio and they start killing Nazis

 

[Xyphon]

Eh, I watched it and it was just as bad as I thought it would be. Maybe it's just because Star Trek bores me to tears.

 

[Firia]

I really enjoyed Voyager. I'm watching each episode of The Next Generation on my Zune, and I like the episodeic nature of TNG and Voyager. Also, I've always loved Star Trek captains. ST: Deep Space Nine was something I couldn't get behind, so when Voyager came out, I felt it was a return to TNG style. The first season was largely lack luster, but over time I came to like the show.

After I finish TNG (I'm on to season 5 of 7), I'm moving on to Voyager.

 

[Xanadeas]

I rather enjoyed it. It was my favorite until I got into TNG. Not to mention it was rather refreshing after the retardation that was Deep Space Nine... Hello, Star Trek? It's about exploring, not sitting in a space station orbiting a lame planet. D<

Well, let's be fair. When DS9 launched, TNG was still on TV and very much in people's minds. They wanted to do a new Trek series, but didn't want to simply do TNG over again so...what to do? Well, every other Trek had been about exploration, so setting a Trek show in a single location actually made a lot of sense. Unfortunately, it just didn't quite hold up, and thus we got the Defiant and the war and suchlike.

That WAS me bein' fair. XD I could point out all the other crap that was constantly going on as well. Like the stuff with Odo and the whole

Spoiler

Odo's shape shifting species is xenophobic to a point where they want to conquer the universe. Or kill anything that resists them, all because they'd been shunned a bit by other species.

Though I DO understand WHY it was made. I mean not all of the series can focus on finding awesomeness at every turn. It'd be silly if there weren't something to balance it out.

 

[Firia]

I happen to be working my way through TNG as we speak and I can confirm that virtually all of the first season is complete shit.

I'm on season 5 myself, and when I made myself to watch season 1, I was forced to conceed that TNG was crap to start off with, and built itself up into a respectable story. Season 1 was full of omnipotent super beings. The only one that stuck was 'Q,' which I liked, so it's ok there.

One thing I have to give props to the writers for is that they killed one of their lead characters early on. They killed a bridge officer with (at the time) more character development than Worf, or as much as Data. They didn't even build it up. With a wave of an arm, bang! She's dead. (They bring her back for a two parter in season 3, and say goodbye properly to her character.)

So season 1 might be shit, but it had balls too. Offing that one character would be like if Data were killed, or Riker. Thankfully, the show got signifigantly better over time.

 

[Asciotes]

I don't really watch star trek but my moms fiancee does so every now and then I see some. I didn't mind Enterprise and TNG, but when I say Voyager, I was just like...ew.

 

[SimuLord]

Voyager was a great concept done in by horrible execution and bad casting decisions. Kate Mulgrew completely punted the role as Starfleet captain, a disgrace to an otherwise good lineage. The constant repetition of the Gilligan's Island-style "give them a one-time option to get home and watch them decline it over and over" was terrible, and their constant and tiresome battles with the Borg made that species turn from the badass opponent in TNG to a sort of robot joke-of-the-week. I thought VOY was dreadful and proof that Berman and Braga need some kind of restraining order leveled against them to keep them from ever touching the Star Trek canon again. (I'm still on the fence about Abrams' reboot of the franchise.)

As for TNG's first season, I'm in complete agreement---the show didn't have even so much as a watchable episode until The Measure of a Man came completely out of fucking nowhere in Season Two and made me think "holy shit, they might have something here." Up to that point I'd been watching mostly because it was on and I was bored.