Poll: Steam: God's Gift or Piece of S**t

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Lowbreed

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OP left out the whole friends and chat feature but whatever.

Yeah I like it, sales are good too, however it let MW2 have a way of having paid DLC which sucks (we used to get map packs for free!).
I have a great internet connection, but when it's down and steam wont let me play my games offline it pisses me right off.
 

Jesus Phish

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I really like Steam.

It lets me buy old games I cant find anywhere else. It has brilliant sales. It lets me talk to friends much easier than playing a game and talking on msn. It lets me install my games anywhere in the world as long as I have an internet connection. You can argue "what if theres no internet connection to download your game" and I'd argue "What if my game disc gets broken/lost or is just so old by now it's stopped working".

It's not a perfect system, but then what is?
 

Flying-Emu

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Ledan said:
Reaper69lol said:
Ledan said:
Hey, just wondering how the gamers at escapist feel about steam. Personally I dislike it because it does not allow me the simple act of installing my game and playing it when I want.
Ok, what exactly do you mean by that? You do realise you have to download your game files right?
Anyways, I can sense a huge flamewar starting, so im just going to get right to the point. If you know how to use steam right, Its great. If you dont, well I can imagine it being a bit challeging, but it does not take awhile to get use to, once you understand it, you will love it.
Um.... I thought I was clear, what I mean is this:
I want to buy my game, pop the CD into my laptop, Install the game, and play it within the same half-hour.
Get better internet? I bought TESIV: Oblivion and was playing in under twenty minutes.

Your problem with it seems to stem solely from the fact that it is, after all, a digital distribution platform. Complaining that you don't get a CD is like complaining that they don't serve hash brownies at McDonalds: it's just silly. In addition:

1) You don't have to update if it's not a multiplayer game. Cancel the update, go into offline mode, bam: Done. For those of you who say that offline mode doesn't work, I don't know what to say, because I've used it quite a bit and it hasn't failed once. If it is a multiplayer game, well, too damn bad. I don't see people whining about updates to Halo, however few and far between they may be.

2) Bwahaha, there are so few games these days that require a CD in the drive, that's no longer a valid argument either way.

3) I COULD go to the site to check for updates. Or I could let an automated service take care of it when I'm not playing. Hrm... waste my time... or don't waste my time... I'll go with option A.

4) Why do PC gamers like Steam? The store is cheap, convenient, and has some great games that you can only get there, as well as some fabulous deals (TF2 for $1, anyone?). The social aspect of it (the chat functions, groups, etc.) are all adequately done, and the "Non-Steam Game" function (which allows you to access Steam Community from any game you choose) lets you chat with friends during breaks in the game, or what have you, without having to alt-tab or lose function of an entire key (Like Ventrilo requires with the CTRL button, or wherever you bind it.)

5) What's cooler?
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Flying-Emu

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Ledan said:
Voodoomancer said:
Ledan said:
- Patch updater, simply go to the site to check for updates.
Just have to point out that getting the game updated fully automatically while you go get a sandwich is strides better than having to manually go to a site regularly to check for updates, find the correct patch when there are, download it, and execute it.
'fair enough, without Steam you wouldn't pay attention to the updates,
but many games (like Mass Effect 2) have an inbuilt news system to tell you when and where you can download patches.
But Steam makes it so that it does it automatically, saving developers AND you that much effort.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have the game update without me having to open it, see the news post, curse the God that created games, close it, and spend half an hour figuring out why no company knows how to properly post non-automated fixes.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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Well the community features are great, the interface looks nice and it's functional. The store has a large selection of games for good prices, there are lots of sales on many different genres of games. The update system works fine and it makes everything work better. I don't really see what's not to like.
 

A_Parked_Car

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I really like Steam. Although when I first got it to play the Orange Box I really hated it. Since then it has become a lot more stable and I use it all the time.
 

Harmondale2

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Yes you can get the other stuff elsewhere, but I just find it better that its all in one place. its the shear convenience of it.
 

Kiefer13

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I think it's pretty damn excellent. Especially with the recent new interface changes.
 

Jesus Phish

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When it comes to updates on Steam, its usually not until I get a little message in the corner telling me " has finished downloading". Happy days.
 

Outright Villainy

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Well I've had some problems with the offline mode functionality before, but nowadays it's all roses. Having a little box pop up out of nowhere telling me Team fortress is updating is pretty exciting too. And the steam community business in game is very handy. As long as I can play all my single player games offline without any hiccoughs it's fine and dandy. Also, I have a 1mb internet connection and it's fine for me, so I don't know how everyone else is complaining about slow downloads...
 

Ledan

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Flying-Emu said:
*snip*

Get better internet? I bought TESIV: Oblivion and was playing in under twenty minutes.

Your problem with it seems to stem solely from the fact that it is, after all, a digital distribution platform. Complaining that you don't get a CD is like complaining that they don't serve hash brownies at McDonalds: it's just silly. In addition:

1) You don't have to update if it's not a multiplayer game. Cancel the update, go into offline mode, bam: Done. For those of you who say that offline mode doesn't work, I don't know what to say, because I've used it quite a bit and it hasn't failed once. If it is a multiplayer game, well, too damn bad. I don't see people whining about updates to Halo, however few and far between they may be.

2) Bwahaha, there are so few games these days that require a CD in the drive, that's no longer a valid argument either way.

3) I COULD go to the site to check for updates. Or I could let an automated service take care of it when I'm not playing. Hrm... waste my time... or don't waste my time... I'll go with option A.

4) Why do PC gamers like Steam? The store is cheap, convenient, and has some great games that you can only get there, as well as some fabulous deals (TF2 for $1, anyone?). The social aspect of it (the chat functions, groups, etc.) are all adequately done, and the "Non-Steam Game" function (which allows you to access Steam Community from any game you choose) lets you chat with friends during breaks in the game, or what have you, without having to alt-tab or lose function of an entire key (Like Ventrilo requires with the CTRL button, or wherever you bind it.)

5) What's cooler? *Snip*
Right, so first of all I don't care about the CD, other than it's simplicity, but sometimes steam advocates use this as an argument.

As for your first point... are we using different programs? Empire total war, first time using steam, I "cancelled" the update and went offline. Steam would not allow me, and does not allow me, to play ANY game that is in the process of updating be it offline or online. I have as of yet never found a way to stop an update AFTER it has started.
BTW, last year we (the people in my dorm) used to play COD4 all the time, no problems whatsoever. The only inconvenience was when you first installed it and updated it. NOW we barely play, due to all the problems with steam, specially since you can't host LAN games.

:D is my only answer to point 2

I never go to the site to check for updates, and Steam has never updated "in the background". It only ever updates when I wish to play, which is only when I turn steam on because Why in the world would I run it otherwise? I choose option C, don't bother with updates unless I have problems or can be bothered, and where I can play the non-updated game whilst downloading the patch for said game

Point four.... who needs social interaction?
:p
But seriously, sure that is a nice function, but it's not worth the hassle that is steam. It's like the cast for your broken arm is cool and people can write on it, but it's not worth it to break your arm/leg.
Seriously though, I'm fine with you liking steam, have fun with it and all that. BUT
to me and most of the world who don't have good internet, steam sucks. The two main updates to steam that I demand are simple :
Allow the players to play their game while at the same time downloading the patch (why is this a problem? How does downloading interfere with playing?), don't shove the patch down our throats (especially the ones that destroy saves, (like ETW) or the ones that destroy the game (like ETW!!!)), and allow the player to uninstall the patch if they don't like it.
.......... Steam is just a lot of hot air.............

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Enigmers

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I love Steam sales and the community services it comes with (a friends list, being able to talk in-game, etc.) I've never had issues with it; in fact, if it weren't for Steam, I probably wouldn't be a PC gamer.
 

Ledan

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Outright Villainy said:
Well I've had some problems with the offline mode functionality before, but nowadays it's all roses. Having a little box pop up out of nowhere telling me Team fortress is updating is pretty exciting too. And the steam community business in game is very handy. As long as I can play all my single player games offline without any hiccoughs it's fine and dandy. Also, I have a 1mb internet connection and it's fine for me, so I don't know how everyone else is complaining about slow downloads...
1mb! that is a lot. average here: 50 kb to maybe 200kb, max 1 mb for a couple of secs.
 

Joshimodo

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I don't like it.

It's obtrusive and irritating, and downright unnecessary for everything besides the community aspect.
 

Rafe

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Well I just got Portal for free and every GTA game for £4.25 so I love it.
 

Assassin Xaero

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I love the thing, good place to store games, easy to use, amazing sales (well, hate that at the same time, poor wallet).
 

Ledan

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Joshimodo said:
I don't like it.

It's obtrusive and irritating, and downright unnecessary for everything besides the community aspect.
..... damn, you just manged to say what I wanted in one sentence....... :p