Milanezi said:
Magenera said:
Only an idiot thinks Batman can beat Superman, Batman himself mentions he stands no chance against Superman. Most do the whole batgod joke because of Morrison Justice League run.
Frank Miller's Batman, beat Superman pretty hard
Than he faked his death, but that's winning in a "Batman outmasterted you way" lol
Between you and me, in a realistic point of view, only Kryptonians can beat Superman, or aliens who are just as strong for some reason, but BATMAN??? Batman is my favorite hero of all, but as the green Lantern so aptly put, he's "a dude dressed like a bat" lol.
Frank Miller's
The Dark Knight Returns put Batman back into the business of being a "serious" superhero. After the campy TV show from the 60's most people considered Batman to be a silly joke.
Miller's Batman
did beat Superman in a 'realistic' way, which is to say Bruce Wayne spent over a decade and millions and millions of dollars coming up with synthesized Kryptonite which he used on Superman after Superman had had the stuffing kicked out of him by a multi-megaton nuke. Moreover Batman used a suit of powered armor to enhance his own strength enough to give Superman some bruises when the Kryptonian was reduced to near-human vulnerability.
Fun Fact: A major plot hole of that final encounter involved Batman using Gotham City's power grid to power his suit. The problem with that was that the city's power was offline thanks to the "Cold Bringer" nuke that wiped out power grids all across the USA.
In other words--Miller cheated.
Can you say "Plot Armor"?
But Miller's grim and gritty work on Batman and Daredevil put both characters back on the map for the first time in years. All of Batman's subsequent popularity can be pointed back to Miller's revitalizing the character in his mini-series which was based 10 years into the future after Batman had been retired for the same amount of time.
