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For a certain point of view you are correct, but then given that there is a great deal more skill involved in swordplay I would say it is less honourable, after all, where is the honour in a highly skilled swordsman cutting down 100 novices? The gun is a great equaliser, not to say there is no skill involved because there certainly is but even a novice can gun down an expert marksman if he gets the drop on him. I call that fair and fair = honourable.Rarhnor said:There is more honor in wielding a sword. Gun fights (and the modern day wars) gets too impersonalized.
there is always the machine pistol. You with a knife, me with a machine pistol, any day - as close as you like.ExiusXavarus said:Either or. I say it would depend on my situation. I'd prefer to have a pistol+knife combo that allows you to go back and forth. Knives won't do crap from long range, but a gun's not going to help very much at close range. It will, but not as effectively as a knife against someone right up on your balls.
by what do you mean "less effective" in situations which those weapons were designed for, yes. swords in general were much more versatile than many other weapons, even though they did not excel in the areas those other weapons did. there are numerous forms combat can take, and among ancient weapons, the sword could be used in many of them comparatively well. the axe is generally slower than the sword, the spear has a wooden shaft that can be broken with a heavy blow, the bow and crossbow are next to useless at melee range. each weapon has it's specific strengths and weaknesses, but the sword is less pronounced in either category. the swords were usually in a "jack of all trades" class.Souplex said:And I hope you realize that they were pretty much all less effective than polearms, axes, bows, crossbows, and miscellaneous others. Swords were popular because of their portability, and had no real advantages otherwise.Czargent Sane said:I hope you realize there were hundreds of varieties of swords across the world, all with different abilities.Souplex said:Other: Swords were historically one of the less effective weapons. They were the ancient equivalent to an officer's pistol: Light, easy to carry around, less effective than a rifle (Polearms, (Assault rifle) axes, (Shotgun) bows, (Sniper) and crossbows (One of those really big heavy duty snipers)) and more of a symbol of rank than anything else.
Knights equated only having a sword to being unarmed. Swords main advantage came from the fact that they could be sheathed at your side, because otherwise they were generally inferior.
It wasn't until the rapier that swords really were a good choice. It cold get through any type of armor, could easily be poisoned, was capable enough to run someone through with a pound of force, was cheap to produce, and could once again; be easily carried around on your person.
I would go with polearms. Preferably a halberd.
Van Gogh shot himself in the chest. It took him 2 days to die. Stab a guy once and you've essential disabled him for the final strike. Yeah you can shoot a guy, but unless it's a direct head shot, he can use the last once of adrenaline he has in his body to pull the trigger on you.Omikron009 said:I'm a gun person myself, because realistically guns are more effective than swords almost 100% of the time.
There is no honour in killing a person, get that fool notion out of your head. Be it from a gun or a sword, you are snuffing a life. A life hat may have had a family, a life that may have been loved by others. You have taken the life of someone that could have been just like you, could have been a friend if you were not on opposing sides of a conflict.AzrealMaximillion said:Look at my DP. Now look back. That's my answer.
Guns are for pussies who want to solve their problems from a distance. They allow people who don't know how to fight the ability to kill people without really being brave. Guns in the untrained hands can also send stray bullets into innocent bystanders, causing reasonless death. Swords on the other hand are the most personal way to combat a man one on one, face to face. No innocent bystanders can get hit by crossfire. And if you are unskilled with the sword, only you die. That's the most honourable way of fighting.