Poll: syria is in chaos

[Yopaz]

The bigger things like these get the worse they get when it's over. Involve the military of other countries and his will turn out an even bigger tragedy. Egypt and Libya have recently gotten rid of their evil dictators and they're nowhere near becoming peaceful nations. Negotiations is the best thing that can be done, but I doubt that it will work.

 

[Zeckt]

I don't think the solution of throwing our money at them is doing anything other then making them feel entitled when they still hate us. Why do we give them money again?

 

[Ironside]

Unless you want to start World War 3 the West won't be intervening militarily. We have perhaps been funding the rebels and giving them weapons, but Russia has stated their intent to protect Syria if we try anything along the lines of full scale military intervention.

Besides i don't see why it's our problem - everytime we try to help we make things a lot worse and then just make ourselves targets for the blind hatred of the rest of the world.

 

[BOOM headshot65]

There is only one thing we could do by now....KILL ASSAD!!!

It is a damn disgrace that we are just sitting back and LETTING him kill off his people, and for what?! "Because we shouldnt interfer and be the world police." Screw THAT! We should be saying "surrender now, or you will have a .50 cal bullet for breakfast, complimentary of SEAL team 6."

And Screw the UN too. They are not going to get ANYTHING done as long as China and Russia are in it, so really, SCREW THEM AND GET ASSAD!

 

[Knusper]

"These are times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman" - Thomas Paine

Forget the patriotic message in it. The point is we should take the opportunity to defend the rights of the Syrians, through diplomacy or warfare, although the chance to carry out the former is slimming as more and more die each week. Oh yeah, I also recently read a news article on the BBC that the Rebel leaders are considering help from Taliban should the West remain unresponsive... so yeah.

 

[wooty]

I just don't get why nations we're chomping at the bit to intervene in Libya but are all just passing pieces of paper round and limply gesturing for this one, especially when its pretty evident that some serious shit is going on there.

Are you going to pay the bills for the campaign to destroy the Syrian military, and tell the family of the soldiers killed during that? No? Well, neither does anybody else especially not after a lot of money was spent on Libya in the middle of an economic crisis.

Hotly disputed topic on here ay?

Anyway, helping out the Syrians in some way would make more sense than half the things we're wasting money on. This slaughter, for lack of a better word, has been going on for over a year now and yet nothing has progressed forward. The UN inspectors seem to be doing nothing but going on a sightseeing tour, Kofi Annan's plan progress is being ignored even by nations that say they support it and Al-Assad is basically lying to the security council every day about events and upholding his end of the agreement.

If theres something worth losing a bit of money over its stopping, or at the very least, stemming this mess.

 

[Nooh]

This is a problematic situation, indeed. A dictator slaughtering his own people, much like what happened with many other Arabic countries last year, and the conclusion the other Arabic countries came to.

So either we have a crazy dictator in power who takes away almost all freedoms and kills his own people or we have an Islamistic government in power which can probably unite a large part of the nation but also takes away almost all freedoms and instead of waging war amongst themselves, focuses more on how to wage war on other countries.

 

[Nooh]

If Assad is removed the revolution will go the same way the rest of them have, and Muslim Fundamentalists will seize power. It's sort of you can (a) eat a shit sandwich or (b) eat a shit sandwich.

The difference here being that the first shit sandwich is made from the constructions of a madman, and the second shit sandwich is constructed to be halal according to a book written by madmen. Isn't it quite interesting how the Arabic world solves their problems?

 

[Nooh]

If Assad is removed the revolution will go the same way the rest of them have, and Muslim Fundamentalists will seize power. It's sort of you can (a) eat a shit sandwich or (b) eat a shit sandwich.

The difference here being that the first shit sandwich is made from the constructions of a madman, and the second shit sandwich is constructed to be halal according to a book written by madmen. Isn't it quite interesting how the Arabic world solves their problems?

LMAO. Yes I guess you are correct, I see now I was being a reductionist, those are two quite different types of shit. One is firm and foul, the other gooey and pervasive, impossible to remove the taste of. Yes I find Middle Eastern politics fascinating, but I am known for my dirty habits

And while the first shit sandwich is impossible to ignore, the second sandwich can actually seem tasty to some. Some even become so used to their shit sandwich that they will murder others to protect that shit sandwich. And some people in the west, who are currently eating at least decent sandwiches, are promoting that shit sandwich and claiming it is a sandwich of peace. Strange world, this is.

 

[Thyunda]

Your whole conspiracy theory fails to begin with because Ghadaffi was very friendly with the west and traded whatever oil and gas were wanted. That's the whole reason his part in the Lockerbie bombing was forgotten. Supporting the rebels was a clear choice against western oil interests.

The Lockerbie bomber wasn't even proved guilty. Check the debate between the American and Scottish governments on that one. And as for Gadaffi being West-friendly? Is true, he was. Then when places started rebelling he cut his ties and refused to play ball with the West anymore. That's also why the journalists trapped during the war began to mention seeing Americans leading many of the protests.

Supporting the rebels was the obvious choice FOR Western oil interests.

 

[Westaway]

Their government will fight to the death. This is much more complicated than people think. There are different types of muslims in Syria.

 

[Bassik]

You lot know about Uganda, right? That shit's been going on for years, and makes the thing in Syria look like a pub brawl.

Off course I care about Syria, I just find it weird that the Uganda thing goes on for so long without anyone ever mentioning it.

 

[davros3000]

Assad leaving will make no difference. His power is based on a group of people and their turkeys are pretty cooked without either government legitimacy (as they had) or force, as they have now.

Plus the mixture of split secular/islamist opposition,Iranian involvement, overspill into Lebanon, Israel and Iran, and you have the making of a big bloody mess.

The peace plan was pretty much the last chance for this to end well. Its crossed the point of no return; people know that assad no longer has monopoly of force. His last legitimacy is gone. He is larger irrelevant now. Its down to two bunches of people. Who has the most troops and guns, as its a civil war who wants it most doesnt matter.

In short; its gonna be biblical.