Poll: Terran Liftoff

[Last Bullet]

I suppose there is, most people just don't seem to give a damn. Some do, and I love playing those people. Especially when you both know it's over, and instead of just surrendering you both chat until everything is destroyed. Fun times.

Personally, as a member of The Swarm, I find this "OH HOLY CRAP -- LIFTOFF" thing to be funny. It just sort of starts a hunt. I especially like it when you destroy their main base and they wall off like wild somewhere else. I then take the entire map, and drown them in Zerg biomass.

 

[Art3rius]

just always be friendly ... unless someone else is acting like an @sshole, then act the same way towards him

Nah, always act friendly. Then we someone acts like an asshole you can report him .

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

I would say it is cheap, but not so much that's something to complain about. I've had it done to me, and I've 'kinda' done it before (spam build in random place when things are looking bad, but to be fair there's a small chance of recovery there), I'm sure it can be annoying but I've not seen it that way personally.
If I have a particularly frustrating match with someone, I will drag out their victory in spite, but otherwise I'll happily concede to defeat. Especially if the other person is a good sport about everything (love random banter in games, always makes it more enjoyable).

 

[Flying-Emu]

E-Sportsmanship?

Hell, as long as its within the rules, I say do whatever it takes to win. If that means cheesing, then by all means, cheese. If that means planting a CC in the middle of nowhere to delay the enemy's victory, then by all means.

 

[SturmDolch]

I think it's just silly to make the game take longer than necessary. If you're lifting off tactically, such as when a zerg tries to base trade you, then it's alright. But if you're doing what the guy in the OP did, that's just not cool. He won't be winning by doing that. He could at least land it and start building again if he really wants to try.

 

[TerranReaper]

It's a legitimate tactic, but there isn't any real point to it and it just delays your defeat by doing so. It's mostly done by people who have clearly lost and just doesn't want to give up, in which it's just annoying, but there are situations where both players are down to nothing but a single building and a handful of units that keep them going. There's even been cases where it's been a "stalemate" where it is impossible for either player to finish each other off, usually because the non-terran player lacks anti-air and cannot produce any due to resources being all mined out.

In terms of sportsmanship, I think as long as you're not a jackass to other players, it's good enough.

 

[Paulie92]

That guy was a douche, that's stuffs only okay when you play a LAN game against a friend

e.g. one game I realised I'd lost so I built as many isolated supply depots around the map and built a wall of bunkers and missile turrets, so my friend killed off all his units replaced then with roughly 18-20 hatcheries and spammed drones at me. It was fun! (Not really related just felt like sharing)

Though liftoff is a legitimate tactic e.g. one time a friend who usually played protoss accidentally played terran so he garrisoned his SCV's into his command centre flew it down and turned it into the planetary fortress and won

 

[Azure Sky]

That has happened to me before, it turned a 10 minute game into a 20 minute one while I searched all over the (1v1, large 8p map) map looking for that last fking building to end the match.

It annoys me that some people feel the need to draw out a game for as long as possible past what should be the end for the pure sake of pissing off the other person.

It turned out to be a Factory, a friggen FACTORY. -.-

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Not really. That's a legitimate tactic in starcraft. The only honor is if there's a known cheap thing such as in WoW using a spell that has an hour long cooldown in a duel.

which spell would that be?

OT: its a very legitimate strategy, I've seen replays where the Terran even says something like or something similar, and the opponent would actually quit the match.
Btw, there is never honor amongst Esports.

Yeah, that's one of the funnies strategies. In my 3v3 team, we got one guy to pretend to leave and move his base behind the enemy's and spam ghosts. He had no idea what was happening.

OT: Terran liftoff is also fine. It's a last ditch effort to get your opponent to become bored and leave. All's fair in love and war, as long as you ain't hacking!

 

[blankedboy]

If they've clearly lost, then a 'gg' will do. If they're using it to find another mineral supply, or change where their units come from, or wall, then it's fine.

 

[Tanis]

It's a jerk move, but if you're trying to win...you're trying to win.

Might as well complain about Zerg Rushing.

 

[Shjade]

All's fair in love and war, as they say. Some people have won by waiting out an opponent who would rather quit and lose than try to out-wait the floater.

It's not something I would do as I don't feel like wasting my time sitting around hoping an opponent will quit - that and I don't really enjoy playing SC2 competitively so much, I just play it to try to improve and enjoy the game - but I wouldn't get upset at someone for doing it to me, either. Make phoenixes, search entire map, nuke buildings, proceed to score screen. Not a big deal.

The only time this REALLY becomes an issue for people is on a base trade where the terran is wiped out except for floating buildings and his opponent has a substantial, but ground-attack-only, army. Buildings can't safely land, army can't kill them, stalemate. So many beta threads crying about that to ask for a draw system. Some people take things too seriously. ;p

 

[Azure Sky]

It's a jerk move, but if you're trying to win...you're trying to win.

Might as well complain about Zerg Rushing.

While I don't mind Zerg rushing (It is part of the race, even if I don't like it) =(

I just don't see the point of wasting time on a lost game.

All's fair in love and war, as they say. Some people have won by waiting out an opponent who would rather quit and lose than try to out-wait the floater.

It's not something I would do as I don't feel like wasting my time sitting around hoping an opponent will quit - that and I don't really enjoy playing SC2 competitively so much, I just play it to try to improve and enjoy the game - but I wouldn't get upset at someone for doing it to me, either. Make phoenixes, search entire map, nuke buildings, proceed to score screen. Not a big deal.

The only time this REALLY becomes an issue for people is on a base trade where the terran is wiped out except for floating buildings and his opponent has a substantial, but ground-attack-only, army. Buildings can't safely land, army can't kill them, stalemate. So many beta threads crying about that to ask for a draw system. Some people take things too seriously. ;p

Only reason I was pissed off is because I flattened his base in under 10 mins with a mass Zealot Warp-in.
It took me me another 5 mins to tech to air to chase his building down, then another good 5 to find the damn thing. =(

 

[HellbirdIV]

It's called going down swinging.

YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE, COPPAH!

 

[Shjade]

Only reason I was pissed off is because I flattened his base in under 10 mins with a mass Zealot Warp-in.
It took me me another 5 mins to tech to air to chase his building down, then another good 5 to find the damn thing. =(

Why is that a reason to get pissed off? If anything that sounds like a reason for HIM to be pissed off that he just lost to someone massing Zealots (sidenote: patch is increasing zealot/warp cooldown times by a few seconds, joy for you!).

You've already won the game, turn on some sweet victory music and take your time teching up to air. Make him pay for making you wait by making HIM wait to die. He's the one who can't do anything, after all. You can let your probes mine out your main base and stock up resources to 6k while you go afk to get some cookies if you want. What's he going to do about it?

Granted he's probably not just sitting there watching his base float around, but that's not as fun to think about while you eat your delicious cookies.

 

[Amphoteric]

I would do anything to keep myself in the match, its up to my oponent to kill me not for me to give myself up.

All non cheating tactics are fair game.

 

[Azure Sky]

Only reason I was pissed off is because I flattened his base in under 10 mins with a mass Zealot Warp-in.
It took me me another 5 mins to tech to air to chase his building down, then another good 5 to find the damn thing. =(

Why is that a reason to get pissed off? If anything that sounds like a reason for HIM to be pissed off that he just lost to someone massing Zealots (sidenote: patch is increasing zealot/warp cooldown times by a few seconds, joy for you!).

You've already won the game, turn on some sweet victory music and take your time teching up to air. Make him pay for making you wait by making HIM wait to die. He's the one who can't do anything, after all. You can let your probes mine out your main base and stock up resources to 6k while you go afk to get some cookies if you want. What's he going to do about it?

Granted he's probably not just sitting there watching his base float around, but that's not as fun to think about while you eat your delicious cookies.

It was more his error to only defend the front of his base that I was able to win with such speed, it's common anti dropship/reaper 101 to cover your economy. 2-3 well placed Turrets would have made my attack impossible to pull off.

Though, you would be amazed how much damage a constant stream of Zealots can do when warped into key points can do, it's quite hard to push back the waves to take out the Prisms when they are warping in 6+ at a time.

As for the getting annoyed part, I would rather just take my win (or loss, I'm not actually that good) than sit around in a futile waste of time that does not change the outcome.

 

[Eumersian]

I always begin my games by saying: "Good luck to you my friend!"

I'm not sure whether or not they take this sarcastically, humbly, or by thinking that I'm completely insane. I just want to be polite.