Poll: The DeathNote
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I slowly lost interest with the series as Light's arrogance began destroying him. If the guy had kept a level head, he would have been fine, but he didn't, and payed the price for it (I skipped to the ending after a bit.)
But anyway, I'd like to use the Death Note on criminals, but I don't think that I would be the right person to entrust with that much power.
But anyway, I'd like to use the Death Note on criminals, but I don't think that I would be the right person to entrust with that much power.
No, I hate it because there's not a single likeable character and the voice acting is like somebody smacking me in the face with a hammer. Only the plot and themes are tolerable, and they are so damn tolerable that I can't stand not to finish the series.xxhazyshadowsxx said:
i think that at the begginning he was the hero with good intentions. but later when he kills alot of innocent people with his cause as his justification he becomes almost a villian. plus his want to be the god of the world he creates is pretty messed up. the intentions may still have been pretty good, but "hell is paved with good intentions"
Well, I have seen the entire series and you forgot to mention that anybody who uses the death note cannot go to neither heaven or hell. I would have probably done something similer if this nasty little aspect was not a part of the conditions of useing the death note. I would probably kill a lot of corrupt poliicians and buisnessmen who get away with murder. only the world would never know about me, that was the greatest mistake L made was announcing himself and makeing himself known. Unlike L I wouldn't have slain an innocent who got in my way. Very good series, I would like to see the people who say it's bad write up a series thats more interesting.
There definitely has to be some kind of a third option here. There were aspects of what Light did that reflected both of the options. If anything, he lands squarely in the middle ground. You cannot boil down such a compelling character's actions in such an outstanding anime to such a black and white choice. Sure he tried to do the right thing, but there was an excessive amount of collateral damage. He did intentionally kill innocent people for his own gain/ survival, which really tempers my esteem for him. Basically, I cannot really make up my mind about Light or the question at hand. I feel that the best answer anyone will come up with regarding this topic was the one that jboking gave.
I thought the series was awful, but the moral question it raises is pretty deep. I think that some criminals deserve to die.
Light is crazy amazing and everything he did was totaly epic. I think what he did was right and he should have won even though the end was still incredible.
sounds like hes the villain... and a self-righteous douchebag with lots of inner monologues- wouldnt like it
While evil should be gone from the world, placing it in the hands of another human being just leads to a crapsack world, hence why I voted against it. I understand both Light's and L's reasoning, but let's face it: Light was absolutely bonkers.
The central irony of the show is that Light is exactly the kind of inhuman monster that he is trying to rid the world of.
It's very easy to say that if you kill of X, Y, and Z the world will be a better place. It's not so easy to see that in someone else's eyes, you are the X, Y, or Z that needs killing off.
It's very easy to say that if you kill of X, Y, and Z the world will be a better place. It's not so easy to see that in someone else's eyes, you are the X, Y, or Z that needs killing off.
I say he went completely over the top, remember at the end? It was no longer about killing criminals, he intended to become a God. He used morality as an excuse, plain and simple. A truly moral person has compassion for evil and good. Most people can't manage that, and use immorality as an excuse for violence, a desire we all have at our roots. I can't even tell you the number of times I've seen people say that pedophiles should have their dicks put in meat grinders, or that rapists should all be killed. And of course, those who kill others, should be killed themselves. Right now the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks is on trial. Should he be put in the street and let the families of the 9/11 victims take shots at him? I was in grade 6 at the time, and that was largely the male consensus of what should happen to Osama Bin Laden. But is there not a line between justice and vengeance?
I'm not saying this shouldn't happen nor am I saying it should, but I would like to mention that Jesus always said to forgive those who trespass against you. I'm not interested in the past, I'm interested in who you are right now, the only time which truly exists. If they are a completely different person now than they before they committed the crime, I fully recognise that the person in question has changed. But it's not up to me, it's up to God. God decides everything, and he doesn't need mortals help in telling him what's true and what isn't. Don't decide too much of what's true about others. To be completely accurate, you would have to not do it at all.
It should also be considered that the people who commit these crimes were likely treated very poorly when they were young. Are the people who drove them into the darkest corner to not be at all held responsible? No. That's how it is right now. You get beaten and beaten and beaten constantly, and when you finally lash you are the one who is punished. That's how it works.
I'm not saying this shouldn't happen nor am I saying it should, but I would like to mention that Jesus always said to forgive those who trespass against you. I'm not interested in the past, I'm interested in who you are right now, the only time which truly exists. If they are a completely different person now than they before they committed the crime, I fully recognise that the person in question has changed. But it's not up to me, it's up to God. God decides everything, and he doesn't need mortals help in telling him what's true and what isn't. Don't decide too much of what's true about others. To be completely accurate, you would have to not do it at all.
It should also be considered that the people who commit these crimes were likely treated very poorly when they were young. Are the people who drove them into the darkest corner to not be at all held responsible? No. That's how it is right now. You get beaten and beaten and beaten constantly, and when you finally lash you are the one who is punished. That's how it works.
Both sides were bonkers, heck if L and Light had switched places it would have been the same really, L seems unstable enough to do it as well and Light and L had something in common, they wanted a equal opponent. However during the end when Light had succeeded in his goal, he was consumed in the power of being a "God". I say that Light's mission was indeed righteous but wrong at the same time.
To be honest if I couldnt do anything against him that I knew wouldnt get me killed, I would keep my head down and accept his rule. However if I had a means to actually stand up against "Kira" without dying instantly (in my mind) I would stand up against the mass genocide this "God" has wrought on our world.
To be honest if I couldnt do anything against him that I knew wouldnt get me killed, I would keep my head down and accept his rule. However if I had a means to actually stand up against "Kira" without dying instantly (in my mind) I would stand up against the mass genocide this "God" has wrought on our world.
Well I think there's a way to test this.
Recently, four cops were gunned down in cold blood in a coffee shop in Tacoma.
A guy with an extensive criminal record is wanted for questioning in the murders. He has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.
Here's a list
-at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington.
-Clemmons had been in jail in Pierce County for the past several months on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child. He was released from custody just six days ago, even though was staring at seven additional felony charges in Washington state.Clemmons posted $15,000 with a Chehalis company called Jail Sucks Bail Bonds. The bondsman, in turn, put up $150,000, securing Clemmons' release on the pending child-rape charge.
-Two confrontations with police alone this year (including punching a sheriff in the face during one of them)Charged with seven counts of assault and malicious mischief.
-He has shown signs of mental insanity, including making his family stay naked during random periods, the world is going to end, he is Jesus, scared of the Secret Service, calling Obama a messiah.
-In 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property
-When Clemmons received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions and facing up to 95 more years on charges of robbery, theft of property and possessing a handgun on school property. Records from Clemmons' sentencing described him as 5-foot-7 and 108 pounds. The crimes were committed when he was 17.
-Another time, Clemmons hid a hinge in his sock, and was accused of intending to use it as a weapon. Yet another time, Clemmons took a lock from a holding cell, and threw it toward the bailiff. He missed and instead hit Clemmons' mother, who had come to bring him street clothes
-On another occasion, Clemmons had reached for a guard's pistol during transport to the courtroom.
-In March 2001, he was accused of violating his parole by committing aggravated robbery and theft
Various circumstances have kept him out of jail. For one Mike Huckabee (a Republican politician) commuted his sentence, a probation panel recommended that it be commuted and other judges and such stood by in inaction. Clearly, incompetence is why he was still out on the street.
Hypothetically, you have the Death Note
1)Do you kill him?
2)Do you kill the people that bailed him out, let him by, or otherwise incompetently allowed it to go this far?
3)If you killed any of them, what would you do if you found out that law enforcement authorities, some of them friends of the dead cops, were going to arrest you for murder? They know exactly how you did it, and plan on seizing your notebook. Go to court and lawyer your way out? Kill them? Flee? Serve your time?
Recently, four cops were gunned down in cold blood in a coffee shop in Tacoma.
A guy with an extensive criminal record is wanted for questioning in the murders. He has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.
Here's a list
-at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington.
-Clemmons had been in jail in Pierce County for the past several months on a pending charge of second-degree rape of a child. He was released from custody just six days ago, even though was staring at seven additional felony charges in Washington state.Clemmons posted $15,000 with a Chehalis company called Jail Sucks Bail Bonds. The bondsman, in turn, put up $150,000, securing Clemmons' release on the pending child-rape charge.
-Two confrontations with police alone this year (including punching a sheriff in the face during one of them)Charged with seven counts of assault and malicious mischief.
-He has shown signs of mental insanity, including making his family stay naked during random periods, the world is going to end, he is Jesus, scared of the Secret Service, calling Obama a messiah.
-In 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property
-When Clemmons received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions and facing up to 95 more years on charges of robbery, theft of property and possessing a handgun on school property. Records from Clemmons' sentencing described him as 5-foot-7 and 108 pounds. The crimes were committed when he was 17.
-Another time, Clemmons hid a hinge in his sock, and was accused of intending to use it as a weapon. Yet another time, Clemmons took a lock from a holding cell, and threw it toward the bailiff. He missed and instead hit Clemmons' mother, who had come to bring him street clothes
-On another occasion, Clemmons had reached for a guard's pistol during transport to the courtroom.
-In March 2001, he was accused of violating his parole by committing aggravated robbery and theft
Various circumstances have kept him out of jail. For one Mike Huckabee (a Republican politician) commuted his sentence, a probation panel recommended that it be commuted and other judges and such stood by in inaction. Clearly, incompetence is why he was still out on the street.
Hypothetically, you have the Death Note
1)Do you kill him?
2)Do you kill the people that bailed him out, let him by, or otherwise incompetently allowed it to go this far?
3)If you killed any of them, what would you do if you found out that law enforcement authorities, some of them friends of the dead cops, were going to arrest you for murder? They know exactly how you did it, and plan on seizing your notebook. Go to court and lawyer your way out? Kill them? Flee? Serve your time?