Poll: The Effectiveness of Boycotting: EA/ME3 Edition

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Eddie the head

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Vault101 said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't belive people have souls...so HA! jokes on them

except my dog has been acting really strange around me...I have this strange urge to go out at night and drink peoples blood
What's strange about that? Blood is good.
 

pure.Wasted

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Aircross said:
My dear, any developer that is picked up by EA is pretty much guaranteed to be screwed in the long run. Just look at EA's track record of screwing talented developers. The instant a developer stops making record breaking profits they are dropped. Some of Bioware's veteran developers have left before and after the acquisition because they knew what would happen.
You make it sound like EA is a force of nature that cannot be stopped, bullied, or reasoned with. I can understand standing on principle when it has a chance of accomplishing something, not likely in this case, or standing on principle when the alternative goes against every single fiber of your being, but EA? They're only moderately worse than Activision and Bobby Kotick. Activision is only moderately worse than Capcom. And so on, turtles all the way down.

I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life or anything, it just seems like any line you draw is going to inevitably be arbitrary. Or you're left with indie games and Valve.

There are plenty of similar horror stories out of Hollywood, where talented writers' scripts are hacked up and turned into unrecognizable pseudo-blockbuster tripe that even Michael Bay would sneer at. But I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you don't boycott Warner Brothers...
 

MetallicaRulez0

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I did not purchase ME3 because I refuse to support EA and their methods of ruining developers.

All you have to do is look at the change in quality between Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 to see how much damage executive meddling can do.
Or you know, the fact that Dragon Age 2 had less than half the development time that DA:O had. That's the only meddling EA did, they forced Bioware to push it out the door before it was really ready. Considering that, I still think Dragon Age 2 is a pretty good game. The combat alone is a GIGANTIC improvement over origins. The environments sucked, and the characters were hit and miss, but overall I enjoyed it quite a lot.
 

BreakfastMan

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I pre-ordered ME3 without the DLC. I enjoyed myself greatly, and do not regret my purchase. I was also not boycotting the game either. I can't say I approve of EA's business practices all the time, but nothing they were doing with ME3 struck me as particularly offensive, so I got it.
 

Danzavare

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I think that knowing the less than ideal ending and the fact I'd have to purchase DLC to get 'the complete' experience I'm waiting to buy it from the bargain bin. I wouldn't swear off a game I wanted completely, but I generally don't have a problem with just waiting to buy it. The company will still profit from me but much less than they could have. Still, my choice is more personal than it is about making a big statement.

Captcha: candy cane
 

Sexy Devil

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I bought ME3, and eventually cracked and bought From Ashes. However, even though I paid for the DLC, my Origin crashed just as the payment was processing and EA got the money but never gave me the DLC. I contacted customer service and they basically just told me to get fucked and deal with it. Thankfully Paypal sorted it out.

Anyway that was the catalyst in my growing hatred for EA and I then vowed to never buy another of their products.
 

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I honestly believe if Hitler, Joseph Kony, Osama Bin Laden, and George Bush got together, and made Mass Effect 4, people would play it, but it first day, and THEN ***** about it online. The gamer community has ZERO backbone. That's why EA, Activision, and Blizzard are all so popular, because they know we will buy whatever shit they put in front of us. We're like the beaten house wife who keeps coming back to the drug dealer boyfriend, for more meth.
 

malestrithe

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I did not buy the game because I had little interest in the series. Sorry, but Bioware has made one game since 1996. They do it well, but making one game over and over again is not innovation. It's lazy.

I would have given the series a chance, but I discovered that you need to play all the missions in a preferred order if you want to see the Best ending possible for ME3. From what I remember from the strategy guide, you need to play your game in a certain set path, completing all side missions at their proper points and at the appropriate levels and not skip a one. This set path needs to be followed from the first game and it includes all DLC released.

If this desired path is not saved on your computer or your 360, you are going to get the default middle path. If you had to replace your hard drives, you will get the default ending. If you have a ps3, you are not seeing the best ending and you can't do the right path by the motion comic.

That irks me a lot. I do not mind strict linearity, but if your selling point is choose your own adventure, you should not do that.
 

Lunar Templar

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how do i re-act to ME3's release?

with a resounding 'meh'

it didn't start pissing me off till people would shut up about the shit ending like it some how matter when weighed against the OTHER shit endings we've had to deal with for the last
three
fucking
decades, we've been gaming
-.-

plus it has origin glued to it, and I'd rather melt my PC into a puddle with a pocket lighter then willing let spyware like that on my hard drive
 

pure.Wasted

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malestrithe said:
I did not buy the game because I had little interest in the series. Sorry, but Bioware has made one game since 1996. They do it well, but making one game over and over again is not innovation. It's lazy.

I would have given the series a chance, but I discovered that you need to play all the missions in a preferred order if you want to see the Best ending possible for ME3. From what I remember from the strategy guide, you need to play your game in a certain set path, completing all side missions at their proper points and at the appropriate levels and not skip a one. This set path needs to be followed from the first game and it includes all DLC released.

If this desired path is not saved on your computer or your 360, you are going to get the default middle path. If you had to replace your hard drives, you will get the default ending. If you have a ps3, you are not seeing the best ending and you can't do the right path by the motion comic.

That irks me a lot. I do not mind strict linearity, but if your selling point is choose your own adventure, you should not do that.
The ending they're talking about is virtually identical to every other ending, with one EVER SO TINY difference. First of all, it's simply not a big deal. They're not screwing you out of anything by making this one tough to get. You can easily skip it and play the game however you wanted to without worrying.

Second, it's really not that different from any choice/consequence system. If you go in thinking "I want character X to survive no matter what" and approach it from that outcome, looking up every guide, then yeah it's going to feel like they're restricting your options. But what's also an option is simply playing the game, and if the characters dies, so be it. If you didn't get that particular ending with 1 second of extra content, so be it.
 

Vault101

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Don't worry, that's not the right symptoms. Now if you feel the need to sneak into people's houses at night and tell them about indoctrination theory...
I don't do that....

I go out on weekends, dress up all formal like.... and go door knocking "hey there, have you heard the truth of Indoctrination theory?"

Eddie the head said:
What's strange about that? Blood is good.
[i/] yes...fellow night seeker, we are the few who live in the shadows, who dare to seek out those who are unworthy of life..to have the power to take life-[/i]

whoa....I have no Idea where that came from..I really have to get this thing checked out
 

AbstractStream

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I had pre-ordered the Collector's Edition, but due to some glitch in Gamestop's system, my order showed up as the standard one instead. They apparently couldn't give out extra Collector's Editions so I sucked it up and stayed with the standard edition and bought the From Ashes DLC along with.

I ended up saving around $20, so I'm kind of glad I didn't get the CE anyway.

No regrets in buying the DLC or game. Javik was worth it.
 

Eddie the head

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Vault101 said:
[i/] yes...fellow night seeker, we are the few who live in the shadows, who dare to seek out those who are unworthy of life..to have the power to take life-[/i]

whoa....I have no Idea where that came from..I really have to get this thing checked out
No no no just wait two more weeks I will swear you will be fine. Just remember two weeks and you might want to avoid hallowed ground as well.
 

ReinWeisserRitter

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I didn't buy Mass Effect 3 because I find the series excessively boring and its developers tired and formulaic.

EA's poor business practices don't help its cause, though. If I did give half a damn about the series, I wouldn't play this game because I don't agree with the way EA does business or the way it treats its customers; no video game is worth sacrificing one's freaking morality for.

Also, I'm sure the ending isn't any more stupid or inane than any other video game's; developers have never been good at telling a story through this medium.
 

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pure.Wasted said:
The ending they're talking about is virtually identical to every other ending, with one EVER SO TINY difference. First of all, it's simply not a big deal. They're not screwing you out of anything by making this one tough to get. You can easily skip it and play the game however you wanted to without worrying.

Second, it's really not that different from any choice/consequence system. If you go in thinking "I want character X to survive no matter what" and approach it from that outcome, looking up every guide, then yeah it's going to feel like they're restricting your options. But what's also an option is simply playing the game, and if the characters dies, so be it. If you didn't get that particular ending with 1 second of extra content, so be it.
I understand that. It just bugs me to know that such an ideal path exists in a choice system game. What if I liked that character? I should not have to tow an rigidly defined line to make sure he or she lives at end game. I do not play these games for my avatar. He is a generic slate that I cannot stand to be around in most situations. I tend to play because there is some NPC I genuinely like to be around.

The last time I saw something like this is in the Valkyrie Profile series. B ending is default and you get just for playing the game. C ending you get for not doing anything. A ending requires a ton more work. It's often worth the effort, but it's requires too many exacting steps and is still a pain.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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Wasn't going to buy it due to Origin.

Definitely wasn't going to buy it due to the sheer amount of DLC avalible just after launch.

Laughed at the people unable to recognise a pattern involving the words "EA" and beloved game developers.

Watched ensuring fire-storm rage across the internet.

Felt very smug with myself.


So while me not buying Mass Effect 3 didn't do diddly against EA, it did save me $100+ NZD and let my Shepard's stories end with a high note rather than a red/green/blue one.