Poll: The Force- Light Side or Dark Side?

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Teh Jammah

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Dark Side gets all the cool stuff.

I'd suck at it (not as good at being a self-aggrandizing, backstabvbing prick as the credo demands to survive - unless we're One Sith/Pre Ro2 Sith), but Dark Side. Always Dark Side.

they get cool black robes, force lightning, force choke and the better mental domination powers.
 

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PrinceOfShapeir said:
BelmontWolf said:
everyone in the world technically is on the dark side of the force.
I laugh alot when people say they are a jedi and are married with children.
Because you fail to understand the nature of the Light and Dark. I'll give you a hint - love and marriage are not part of the Dark Side.
Marriage no. Love and compassion always cause problems for the light, though good in context if those who can control the force feel those emotions strongly they cloud judgment in keeping the light side strong and can be manipulated far too easily as a tool for the darkside.
Regardless the fact that you are trying to troll me here indicates you are definatly one of us who walk the dark path...its just so much more fun
 

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Light, but I doubt I'd stick around long after the Jedi trained me... depending on the era of Star Wars history we're talkin' about. Post-Ruusan Jedi tend to have sticks up their asses... at least until they get wiped out and reformed.

As for Force Lightning... one doesn't have to channel hatred to manipulate electricity with the Force. Force Lightning is an effective weapon because it's not just electricity. I for one wouldn't want it for a weapon anyway.
 

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BelmontWolf said:
everyone in the world technically is on the dark side of the force.
I laugh alot when people say they are a jedi and are married with children.
Contrary to popular belief, Jedi are not celibate, they are against emotional ties.
To paraphrase, you can screw whoever you want as much as you want, just no cuddling afterwards.
 

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Sorry, Dark Side. I dont like being tied down to the "morals" of the "good guys".
Honestly, i dont even think im "Dark Side". I like to fit in the grey area. Maybe dark grey.

See, the "Light Side" tends to be forced into a role. Protector~! Savior~! Selfless~! Kind to children~!

Im the kind of guy whos more likely to tell a child the story of Jeff the Killer ((GO TO SLEEP)) then share my candy with them. Not that i actually would tell a child that story. Im not THAT cruel. Id most likely just say "No, go chew a rock" then share with him, but you get the idea.

The "Light Side" just has to many constraints to it. Its like being a paladin. Either you can stay true to the path at all times, or you just cant be it. Im like.... Jolee Bindo. Im not a mean guy. Im nice. Id like to think friendly. But if you say something wrong, im more then happy to tell you to "Go f*ck yourself", but if you apologized i would forgive you.

But by classification, if i HAD to choose a side, id choose dark. Much or fashionable. Cooler robes and more loose on their morals. Far more likely to pick up hot babes. They may be a bit crazy, but at least they wont deny a good night in bed with a hot stud like me because its "Wrong" to enjoy yourself.
 

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Well as Knights of the Old Republic proved, being a member of any side of the force has absolutely no impact on your moral values. So obviously I would choose the dark side being a much stronger and aggressive style of combat.
 
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So now everyone gets to watch me totally fanboy out re: Star Wars

I, for one, believe in the potentium [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Potentium] hypothesis, which is to say that the force is a resource, and it is in their intent and created outcome that decides its shade. Powers are not necessarily light-side or dark-side any more than a microwave oven, or plutonium, or even something as martial as a battleship.

Case in point, in the game TIE fighters into stormtroopers [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Jedi_Knight:_Jedi_Academy].)[/footnote]

Now it's my own personal hypothesis (hinted at in the original trilogy, but pretty easily inferred in the prequels) that the movies are propaganda films from the perspective of the Jedi order and the New Republic[footnote]The immaturity of the quabbles between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and the quickness with which Anakin / Vader kneels to Palpatine kinda gives away the narrative skew.[/footnote] I suppose, if I wanted to be conspiratorial, I could hypothesize that they were released by the Empire as bad propaganda by the Rebellion / Republic, but that's getting a bit meta.

That said, it's hinted at but left terribly vague that accumilating and maintaining dark-side powers requires a lot of kitten-eating[footnote]Proverbial kitten-eating, of course, but the literal truth is usually worse. This is a classic Kung-Fu-Theater trope, in which a powerful fighting style (or magic sword or whatever) requires lots of blood sacrifice or other evil doing in order to function, ergo why the good guys can't adapt the unstoppable style for themselves.[/footnote] Luke was able to grippy-grippy without ill effect in Return of the Jedi so the difference between light-side and dark-side may not be what you use your powers for so much as how you fuel them.

238U
 

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Fidelias said:
I'd use both, and let my own morals decide my actions.

They actually do have people in Star Wars that do this, such as the Grey Jedi.

Jedi and Sith are both extremist idiots, and both have made HUGE mistakes.

Jedi: Kotor's Mandalorian War: Caused chaos that continued for hundreds of years, all because the Jedi Council decided it would try to stay away from the fighting. If they had actually supported the Republic, it's a good guess they would've been able to keep Revan from turning dark, or at least stopped him before he found the Star Forge.

Sith: Um, just about everything they've done, ever.
My feelings exactly. The worst part about the Jedi is the countless students of theirs have fallen to the Dark Side, and rather than think that this might be because of their code being flawed and trying to fix it, they blame the person instead. As a result it's been happening, over and over and over again for as long as the Jedi Order has existed.

The flaw in their thinking is they condemn any emotions whatsoever, and they don't teach their students how to deal with it, so when they inevitably feel emotion, it overwhelms them and they go completely overboard with it, turning to the Dark Side.

As for the Sith, they just do evil for evil's sake and without any thought as to what their actions might lead to. Thus, they continuously do stupid things that cause them to lose time and time again. Palpatine was probably the only exception, seeing as he used his guile to conquer the galaxy, but even he ultimately succumbed to Stupid Evil and lost everything, and if you count his EU resurrection it happened twice!

They're already flawed as is with their tendency toward Stupid Evil, but their backstabbing ways often results in wasted manpower and killing off somebody in the worst possible time, plus the idea behind it doesn't actually work. The idea is that apprentice kills the master makes them stronger as a whole which is good on theory but not in practice. What it results in is the Master seeking to avoid their deaths is too paranoid to teach their apprentice much of anything, while the apprentice rarely if ever kills their master by straight combat, it's usually through trickery. Both result in the apprentice not learning everything their master has to teach and thus actually getting weaker with each generation.

OT: For me, my morality would be much like it is now, I wouldn't have any. I'd do what I think is the smart thing to do in any situation as I do IRL, which would probably mean I'd lean towards the Dark Side ultimately, and I'd use Force Powers as needed, probably Dark Side for offense, Light Side for defense, in short, as the situation warrants. So I'd be Grey with a little Dark in me.
 

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I wouldn't pick one or the other.

I am not morally black or white, I'm pretty grey. I'd be willing to do immoral things to have an overall benefit to society, but I would shoulder guilt personally for it and not just enslave races and bend THEM to my whims.
 

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I feel obligated to point out that Light Side ≠ Jedi and Dark Side ≠ Sith. Yes Jedi typically follow the Light side and Sith the Dark, but these terms are NOT synonymous. The Jedi and the Sith are merely diametrically opposed factions who's founding philosophies revolve around the Force. Although it is most common for Force users, to align themselves with one of these two factions (common enough as to say 'almost always') in the Star Wars Universe, that doesn't make it mandatory nor or these factions' philosophies the standard for all Force users.
Now that I got that little rant out of the way, I'd say I'd be a Gray Jedi. Fuck the Jedi and the Sith, I'm going my own way.
 

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It seems like the only 'emotions' that the Sith ever end up feeling are anger, bitterness, and finally fear; and then your apprentice kills you. I'd rather have no emotions than only negative ones. Plus the light side offers emortality.

That being said I find that both sides take things too far to the extreme. I think [a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gray_Jedi"]Balancing[/a] emotion and reason is ultimately the best answer.
 

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I personally go the Jacen Solo/Vergere route when Jacen learns that there is no dark or light side only the force and how you use it. One of my favorite lines in the Star wars the old republic is when Ashara Zavros says:
"Passion, peace. Strength, knowledge. Power, serenity. Victory, harmony. Freedom, the Force."
 

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Uriel-238 said:
So now everyone gets to watch me totally fanboy out re: Star Wars

I, for one, believe in the potentium [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Potentium] hypothesis, which is to say that the force is a resource, and it is in their intent and created outcome that decides its shade. Powers are not necessarily light-side or dark-side any more than a microwave oven, or plutonium, or even something as martial as a battleship.

Case in point, in the game TIE fighters into stormtroopers [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Jedi_Knight:_Jedi_Academy].)[/footnote]

Now it's my own personal hypothesis (hinted at in the original trilogy, but pretty easily inferred in the prequels) that the movies are propaganda films from the perspective of the Jedi order and the New Republic[footnote]The immaturity of the quabbles between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and the quickness with which Anakin / Vader kneels to Palpatine kinda gives away the narrative skew.[/footnote] I suppose, if I wanted to be conspiratorial, I could hypothesize that they were released by the Empire as bad propaganda by the Rebellion / Republic, but that's getting a bit meta.

That said, it's hinted at but left terribly vague that accumilating and maintaining dark-side powers requires a lot of kitten-eating[footnote]Proverbial kitten-eating, of course, but the literal truth is usually worse. This is a classic Kung-Fu-Theater trope, in which a powerful fighting style (or magic sword or whatever) requires lots of blood sacrifice or other evil doing in order to function, ergo why the good guys can't adapt the unstoppable style for themselves.[/footnote] Luke was able to grippy-grippy without ill effect in Return of the Jedi so the difference between light-side and dark-side may not be what you use your powers for so much as how you fuel them.

238U


Force Grip is not a force power. It's an application of telekinesis. Grip is just a game mechanic.

Also, if the Potentium were correct, no one would fall to the Dark Side. Anakin wouldn't have gone chop-chop on a bunch of kids.
 

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Radoh said:
To paraphrase, you can screw whoever you want as much as you want, just no cuddling afterwards.
wow. In that one sentence you just made the Jedi look like a bunch of total bastards. Least a Sith lord will give you a hug.
=P
 

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There's just something incredibly fun about electrocuting someone because of their insubordination, or shooting them and taking them in for all the credits they're worth.
 

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Id go dark side but i wouldnt openly be Dark id be more like a dark side jedi/republic, id do what i need to do to get things done, eg: killing a dude for the greater good.

Dark side gets the cool powers aswell like force choke and lightining, id also not have an apprentice so they cant stab me or severe my limbs
 

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I'd like mastery of the Dark Side please. However, I'm certainly not planning on being a sith lord.
 

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aegix drakan said:
Neither. I had this kind of chat with a star wars loving friend of mine, and he classified me as a "rogue". Someone belonging to neither.

And to anyone who claims that you CAN'T be neither...That you HAVE to be either light or dark...Might I remind you that "only a sith deal in absolutes?".

I would still hold on to my passions and loves and dislikes. But I would not abuse these powers or consider myself above everyone else. I would definitely help the light side over the dark side (I mean, look at the crap the dark side guys keep pulling!), at least, I would if the jedi would accept my stance on life. Which they probably wouldn't, knowing them. >_>

Oh, and if you're telling me that I'm evil just because I happen to like flinging lightning from my hands.......Come on, really? That's just shallow.
So you're Starkiller essentially?

OT: Dark side. Because the jedi are boring. That and more powerful force powers are useful for world (galactic?) domination.