Poll: The future of Devil May Cry

[Sheo_Dagana]

Does DmC pick up? I loved the original. I got the new one free on PS Plus but so far its just...meh to me. I don't have any incentive to play it. I just got upto Chapter 8 where you find the guy with half his head missing in Limbo. Please tell me the story begins to pick up?

Compared to the story in the other Devil May Cry games? The quality is comparable if you ask me, but I was never a big fan of the original series' story to begin with.

OT: I'd prefer to see DmC: Devil May Cry 2 for a couple reasons.

1. The original series has run it's course: The story only managed to be engaging for one installment (DMC3) and the setting was interesting in the beginning, but has gotten a little tired by DMC4. Plus the chronology is completely whacked out - near as I can tell, the order of the series goes 3, 1, 4, 2.

2. Dante himself: I'm not saying I love the new Dante, but the original Dante's persona was all over the place. In the first game he's just a badass with a heart of gold. In the second game, he's an awkwardly silent, seemingly more hardened person that felt disconnected after having played the first game. The third game has him set up as this young punk with a carefree attitude who's psychotically happy that his brother is unleashing a demonic army upon the city because it means he'll get to fight stuff. In four, he's gone completely nuts and just doesn't seem like the person he was in the first game or anything like what he'll become in the second game. It's just weird.

3. Nero: Nero was Capcom's attempt at soft-balling a new starring role to the DMC audience, and they did this by basically making him look and act exactly like Dante, except that he was perhaps a little more angry. But despite this, Dante was practically the star of the show anyway and Nero's involvement at the end felt forced. Even then, we're shown several times that Dante is superior in every way. That would be fine, all things considered, but it would have been better if Dante's role had been more subdued. I always felt like Nero wasn't supposed to be just another Lucia - he was supposed to be the new protagonist. Either way, I feel like he was handled very poorly.

Needless to say, combat was a lot faster and a lot harder in the older games, but the awkward camera angles made me really appreciate the reboot a lot more. The combat was still a lot of fun - maybe not quite as fast, but if Ninja Theory tightened up the gameplay and added a targeting system I would be extremely interested to see the second installment.

I think I'd read somewhere that Capcom is keeping all their productions in-house from now on, though... I sure hope we'll still get a second DmC. If it were possible, I'd like to see BOTH. Mega Man got away with it for a long time.

 

[FPLOON]

I go with DmC: DMC 2... (My friend's right... That was a terrible title choice...)

As much as I want a DMC 5, I really don't think they'll do that after the reboot... I mean, talk about a reverse "fuck you" to those that actually liked the new DmC...

Then again, DmC: DMC 2 better have a better story to compliment that sweet (yet this time "slightly" harder) gameplay from DmC...

 

[Blitsie]

In a perfect world, they'd apologize for the disgrace that was DmC, give the IP to Platinum and have the series make a proper return with a real Devil May Cry that turns the genre on its head like DMC 3 did and make billions.

Now speaking from a less extreme perspective, DmC was a good game on its own, definitely Ninja Theory's best effort when it came to combat, it just failed completely as a proper DMC game though. I think they really should bring back the old series, either develop it in house or actually just suck it up and give it to Platinum and actually give the genre a run for its money for a change.

 

[Tohuvabohu]

Please post on the thread than just voting and leaving, I really want to hear WHY you want which series to continue.

haha you got me, okay then.

I voted: Devil May Cry 5

Yes, I'm a fan of the original franchise. But I really did try to give DmC a shot. I really wanted it to be good....

I've gassed on and on before about DmC: DMC, rather than turn my post into a review, without getting into the story or characters, I'll try to sum up my thoughts: It was a disappointment. And full of mind boggling design choices.

I could tell Ninja Theory tried, and it's probably the best game Ninja Theory has made in terms of it's gameplay. But on it's own, gameplay wise, the whole package was a step back from what the older games established. Not only is a step back, but even taken on it's own, compared to the entire hack-n-slash genre, it's simply not... that good.
And that sucks.
The end result, after seeing everything the game had to offer, made me believe that Ninja Theory just isn't up to the task of making a Devil May Cry game that mechanically matches the previous games. It felt like Ninja Theory took the foundation laid by previous DMC games, and rather than adding onto it, took a jackhammer to it then covered the disfigured mess in a bunch of blue and orange paint.

A hammered down foundation made to look pretty? Hey, that's just not what I want in my action hack-n-slash games... And definitely not in a DMC game.

So I'd rather not see the series continue in that direction. But who knows what could happen next, and what team could make it?

 

[Yopaz]

DMC 2 would be preferable. Not because I think it would be a better game or a sound financial move over making DMC 5, but rather because they actually made a reboot. Making a DMC 5 would be kinda like farting in an elevator as you leave it then run up the stairs to catch it just to fart in it again.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I liked DMC 1 so I would like to see a sequel to the reboot.

The way the first one ended pretty much sealed the deal as to which game I would want to continue so I'm going for that.

 

[Mister K]

First thing first: I'd like to note that I NEVER actually played the reboot. I only watched a LP of it.

The worst thing that could happen to reboot has already happened: it had really, REALLY bad PR campaign. This Tameem guy basically saying "screw you old fans. You don't like it? That's your problem. This is the future. Deal with it."

Then there was this demo, where Dino was walking the street and casually hits the cup from the guys hand. This action had reasoning behind it (in the full game) but in the demo it made Dino look like a prick.

There were problems with the game itself (hate/love for white hair, Vergil is a bad guy which came out of nowhere, etc.)

OK, I am ranting now. I am stopping myself. What I've meant to say is that NT could have made not the reboot, but "the game inspired by...", with renaming two brothers to something else (Caesar and Augustus? Why not?) and other changes, but keeping the overall battle system unchanged.

As for direct sequel to original. Someone said Platinum games? YES PLEASE! Make it so that it has two protagonists: descendant of Dante and descendant of Nero. Boy and a girl. Make it so that the story is happening in the future (100 years or so), so that Dante and Nero are not present. Yeah, I like the sound of that.

 

[tranceformat]

I loved the new DmC Devil May Cry,it just really clicked for me(except for the entirely useless abbreviation I mean come on),yeah Vergil looks incredibly stupid but the combat is tight and forgiving for players new to the genre(like myself) and it just looks and feels so cool!
I never liked the originals aesthetics,I dont hate that sort of stuff but its just not for me.Bleached white hair?Tight leather suits?High heel combat boots? Yeah that was kinda cool for me when I was fucking twelve.Again,not hating on it,just isnt my cuppa tea.
Then again,I could do without some moments in the story like the bit with the guy missing half his head,but the rest was just so varied and solid I cant help it,its so bloody cool!

 

[suitepee7]

i genuinely wouldn't care which story was continued if they gave it to somebody like platinum. no other hack n slash game that i've played comes close to being hard in comparison to theirs, not since DMC3 anyway. it's why i'm put off from trying DmCMC, because loads of the criticism comes from it being too easy...

and with exception to the lame boss fight in DMC4 (the priest guy with wings), i really enjoyed DM4, and DMC3 is one of my all time favorites, so i'd vote for DMC5

 

[Alhazred]

I'm all up for a DmC 2. DmC was probably my most-played console game this year, but I couldn't bring myself to play Devil May Cry 4 past the 2nd boss.

I think Ninja Theory's take on the series has a lot of promise. The living city of Limbo and the whole 'punk' aesthetic of the game is unique, and the story looks to be heading in an interesting direction now that mankind knows about the demons (past DMC games pretty much ignored that humanity exists).

The biggest hurdle to be overcome is DmC's lack of difficulty. The majority of the enemies are cannon fodder, with only the Dreanrunners, Witches and Rages providing a real challenge.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I'd like Devil May Cry 5 better. I'm not a fan of reboots. On the other hand I'm OK with the original series ending on a happy, upbeat tone. Why ruin a happy ending?

 

[JuliusMonge]

Absolutely Devil May Cry 5. Everything that has been said here applies: DmC wasn't a bad game, but it fell REALLY short of the series.

I fail to see how could ANYONE enjoy the new Dante as a character. It takes the entire game for him to graduate from "a little prick" to "not completely insufferable". And while I felt Vergil's character was good on his own, the "twist" in the end has got to be one of the worst pieces of storytelling that come to recent memory. Even Mass Effect 3's ending wasn't that poorly presented.
Speaking of storytelling and writing, I hope to god I never have to deal with another script of "Fuck you. Fuck you! FUCK YOU!". That is not only piss poor writing, it's plain bad taste. Same goes for Vergil's "I always had the bigger dick." That one actually caused me to pause and go "Wait, what? Who the fuck thought this up?"
The only character I had no qualms with was the girl. And at the same time, that's probably because she is such a freaking inconsequential and unimportant one that Ninja Theory didn't bother to apply their notion of "character" to her.
I mean, I wasn't the biggest fan of Nero in DMC4, but I'm much more eager to know about him and his origin than I am to see DmC's characters again.

The simple ease with which you could switch weapons was a plus for the combat system. The fact that weapons were redundant in their own categories(that being, one of the Demonic/Angelic weapons did everything the other did but better) was not. The difficulty (or lack thereof) of getting extra ranks was a disgrace to the old system and showed that Ninja Theory fails to see more than the superficial aspect of the combat: it's not about looking awesome, it's about WORKING to make it awesome. Also, the removal of the style system: one of the aspects that added the most dynamism to Devil May Cry - not helped by the Xbox 360 terrible D-pad - and they removed it. Go figure.
The colored enemies were probably the worst idea they could've had for this game.

The visuals and sound... I'll grant they were unique, and the tearing up of the world by Limbo was cool. Now that, coupled with the story though, screams to me a game that tries SO hard to be modern in the worst aspects: gratuitous(if not excessive) dubstep, "I'm a prick to everyone cause that makes me awesome" Dante, the whole 'media is evil and controls the humans' cliché that is the cool concept everyone wants a share of. Yeah, it might've made the story better, in so far that most of Devil May Cry has never had a great story to begin with. But I never plugged my PS2 back on the monitor because I was missing DMC3's story(which, actually, I found to be much better than DmC). Hell, I haven't played DMC3 in years and I can probably remember a lot of memorable scenes(the dive from the Temen-Ni-Guru, for instance).

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

From the moment I saw the first trailer for DMC I knew I was never going to like it and I never did.

The game came out and friends who were fans of the original suggested I'd buy it but once again I said no.

The game just doesn't have the same vibe or feel as the originals, it doesn't help that I was brought into the PS2 era with Devil May Cry being my first ever PS2 game and thus it being my favourite PS2 game of all time.

I'd hope Capcom would go ahead with Devil May Cry 5 but because of how DMC went I'd think they'd go down that route if they do then I'd guess Devil May Cry would be dead to me and me pushed out of the franchise I love as a result.

 

[shrekfan246]

I'd like to see playable Vergil expanded further, as well. Personally I found him more fun to play than Dante in DmC, and I like playing his DmC version far more than his DMC 3 version.

I personally felt they could have worked virgil a little more he was a little more slow paced compared to dante and lacked the variety of weapons dante had but then again dlc maybe in a full game he could be fleshed out more

See, I didn't mind that at all.

The slower pace felt a bit more natural for the actual combat engine the game was running on and made Vergil's controls feel that much more responsive compared to Dante's, and Vergil's other weapons in DMC 3 were pants to use anyway. The way you used Yamato's moves could be refined more, but I liked it simply having more moves rather than swapping between a pair of gauntlets and dual-wielding blades where the latter half of the attack combo is basically the same thing as the normal Yamato combo anyway.

That's not to say they couldn't add new weapons and have it work, of course, but I'm not going to postulate on that kind of nonsense right now. But I'd like to see Vergil get his own full campaign with actual boss battles and integration into the Bloody Palace.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

I really liked the art design and gameplay of the new DMC, and the limbo thing was actually really cool. Given a choice between the two I'd actually say the new one. Not because I like it better, more because i think there's more potential for unique directions it can go.

The original DMC was great and honestly, I'd like to see that continue as well, but I feel like a DMC 5 would be more of what's already been done. Given the choice I'd rather have something unique. The fact that DMC4 was kind of bad and lazy doesnt help either.

 

[lapan]

I'd definitely go with DMC5. All the new DmC had going for itself was art-style, gameplay and characters felt like worse versions of the original.

 

[MrBaskerville]

While i do think it's the best game Ninja Theory has made to date (not that much of an achievement...) i did find it to be a bit uninspired compared to the original series. It has some cool ideas for enviroments at tmes, but the actual level design is very bland and samey, just a lot of empty square shaped rooms connected by endless hallways and i thought the monster and character designs were pretty bland. The gameplay was decent, but i didn't really like the whole thing with the colors and the platforming never got challenging enough. The whole style system also seemed a bit redundant now that they separated money and skill points, it just didn't seem that important to play well since you weren't rewarded with anything other than a leaderboard score. And finally the story were waay too present in this game, it was annoying that they kept intererrupting the gameplay during the levels, it really needed to stay in the transitions between missions, it was very distracting and not particularily engaging. I had some fun with it, but i would probably never play it again and i don't really need a sequel.

On the other hand, i love most of the Devil May Cry titles (except for the second than) and i fought Devil May Cry 4 was really great, so i would prefer if we could get a Devil May Cry 5 developed by Capcom instead of a DMC 2. I must say that i'm surprised reading in this thread, people really care about the story in DMC games? I only really tolerate the stories because they are cheesy, easily skipable and placed out of the way of the actual gameplay.

 

[Daget Sparrow]

DMC: Devil May Cry 2

Loved the story, loved the combat. Art direction and music was glorious (this coming from a guy who hates dubstep and punk). I will throw all of my money at Ninja Theory if it means DMC gets some more love.