Poll: The most overrated genre of music!
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My pleasure, if you like that and fancy something slightly more experimental, Bjork is amazing, varied and soulful. Worth checking out...Burs said:
There's a lot of good punk, but a lot of people are turned off by either the generally awful recording quality (older stuff only), the large group of same-y pop-punkers from the 90's on, and the biggest one, the audience. Particularly the ones that argue on YouTube about which bands are real punk and which aren't, which bugs me to no end.OhJohnNo said:
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OT: I would have to say the two options I would've chosen aren't really on there. I picked techno because I generally am not a fan, but my honest opinion is mainstream metal (most, NOT all) and scene music (pretty much all). Mostly for the reason that not a lot of effort seems to be put into it. I'm cool with anything where an artist is trying something new, and writes a solid song where the slightest bit of effort or talent is evident. The easiest indicator of this is where you hear a ton of similar lyrics, or where you can easily lose track of when one song ends and the next starts.
Try listening to a bunch of brokeNCYDE songs, do a shot every time they say something about "da club". You'll have passed out around song 3, most likely.
And now mainstream metal. I've never liked Metallica, but I don't rip on people for listening to it. But when they ask why, this is my reason in a nutshell
Even if you like Metallica, you have to admit this is pretty funny
it's disappointing that every answer isn't "mainstream pop" i mean seriously. Listen to a couple Kesha songs and tell me it isn't the most lazy writing with the most cliche lyrics and the most repetetive beats you've ever heard. And sadly enough, she's not much worse than much of what gets played on top 40 radio nowadays. I'm not gonna say "music was better" 20-30-40 years ago, but the artists overall tried harder. There were many more bands trying new things, sounding different from each other, putting more skill and effort into every facet of their music.
That all culminated in a much larger array of great bands and artists to choose from as opposed to modern day. And who cares if the production wasn't 21st century crystal clear? that's like saying FF XIII is better than IX because the graphics are better and the characters talk. I'd rather listen to an Exhumer, Vanilla Fudge or Sam Cooke album recorded in their basement with an 8-track than Nickelback (they're pop, let's be honest) or Taylor Swift (she's not country), or defines "pop" like Justin Bieber and Britney Spears with perfect clarity any day. There's still a lot of good bands and artists out there today, but you have to dig through all the top 40 shit to find it. Being unique just isn't revered anymore, quite the opposite actually. So less aspiring artists end up sounding different, because they want to make money.
For the record, I don't like classical music, but it's not THE most overrated, because it at least set a foundation for pretty much all music since that time. Also, Kanye is a horrible example of a rapper, if you even wanna call him that.
That all culminated in a much larger array of great bands and artists to choose from as opposed to modern day. And who cares if the production wasn't 21st century crystal clear? that's like saying FF XIII is better than IX because the graphics are better and the characters talk. I'd rather listen to an Exhumer, Vanilla Fudge or Sam Cooke album recorded in their basement with an 8-track than Nickelback (they're pop, let's be honest) or Taylor Swift (she's not country), or defines "pop" like Justin Bieber and Britney Spears with perfect clarity any day. There's still a lot of good bands and artists out there today, but you have to dig through all the top 40 shit to find it. Being unique just isn't revered anymore, quite the opposite actually. So less aspiring artists end up sounding different, because they want to make money.
For the record, I don't like classical music, but it's not THE most overrated, because it at least set a foundation for pretty much all music since that time. Also, Kanye is a horrible example of a rapper, if you even wanna call him that.
its dissapointing not every answer is exactally the same as you would say?SycoMantis91 said:
[quote/]she's not much worse than much of what gets played on top 40 radio nowadays. ,[/quote]
pop music tens to be shallow and boring? who would have thourght
[quote/] I'm not gonna say "music was better" 20-30-40 years ago [/quote]
yes..you are...
[quote/] but the artists overall tried harder. There were many more bands trying new things, sounding different from each other, putting more skill and effort into every facet of their music. [/quote]
see..there you go..your doing it
[quote/] That all culminated in a much larger array of great bands and artists to choose from as opposed to modern day. [/quote]
hey you ever hear of this thing called the internet? I hear its great for finding all kinds of obscure stuff..as opased to say...what you could find at the store..or what was playing on the radio (did you know I dont listen to radio...ever?)
[quote/] And who cares if the production wasn't 21st century crystal clear? that's like saying FF XIII is better than IX because the graphics are better and the characters talk. [/quote]
people...complain about that?
[quote/] I'd rather listen to an Exhumer, Vanilla Fudge or Sam Cooke album recorded in their basement with an 8-track than Nickelback [/quote]
Id rather listen to howler monkeys fucking than nickleback so at least we agree on somthing there
[quote/] or Taylor Swift (she's not country), or defines "pop" like Justin Bieber and Britney Spears with perfect clarity any day. [/quote]
no one cares about briney spears..I'll give you one guess as to why...(shes gone man..dont worry she cant hurt you anymore)
[quote/]There's still a lot of good bands and artists out there today, but you have to dig through all the top 40 shit to find it. [/quote]
no no no no no non no no no no no..you stay AWAY from the top 40..you forget the top 40 exist
[quote/] Being unique just isn't revered anymore, quite the opposite actually. So less aspiring artists end up sounding different, because they want to make money. [/quote]
actually alot of people get annoyed about bands trying to sound "quiky" part of this "indie" music thing
[quote/] For the record, I don't like classical music, but it's not THE most overrated, because it at least set a foundation for pretty much all music since that time. [/quote]
why not? its LOVED by the "high brow" types..yet alot dont see the apeal..personally I dont like the term "overated" anyhow
[quote/] Also, Kanye is a horrible example of a rapper, if you even wanna call him that.[/quote]
I like kanye..but hey different strokes right?
pop music tens to be shallow and boring? who would have thourghtVault101 said:
[quote/] I'm not gonna say "music was better" 20-30-40 years ago [/quote]
yes..you are...
[quote/] but the artists overall tried harder. There were many more bands trying new things, sounding different from each other, putting more skill and effort into every facet of their music. [/quote]
see..there you go..your doing it
[quote/] That all culminated in a much larger array of great bands and artists to choose from as opposed to modern day. [/quote]
hey you ever hear of this thing called the internet? I hear its great for finding all kinds of obscure stuff..as opased to say...what you could find at the store..or what was playing on the radio (did you know I dont listen to radio...ever?)
[quote/] And who cares if the production wasn't 21st century crystal clear? that's like saying FF XIII is better than IX because the graphics are better and the characters talk. [/quote]
people...complain about that?
[quote/] I'd rather listen to an Exhumer, Vanilla Fudge or Sam Cooke album recorded in their basement with an 8-track than Nickelback [/quote]
Id rather listen to howler monkeys fucking than nickleback so at least we agree on somthing there
[quote/] or Taylor Swift (she's not country), or defines "pop" like Justin Bieber and Britney Spears with perfect clarity any day. [/quote]
no one cares about briney spears..I'll give you one guess as to why...(shes gone man..dont worry she cant hurt you anymore)
[quote/]There's still a lot of good bands and artists out there today, but you have to dig through all the top 40 shit to find it. [/quote]
no no no no no non no no no no no..you stay AWAY from the top 40..you forget the top 40 exist
[quote/] Being unique just isn't revered anymore, quite the opposite actually. So less aspiring artists end up sounding different, because they want to make money. [/quote]
actually alot of people get annoyed about bands trying to sound "quiky" part of this "indie" music thing
[quote/] For the record, I don't like classical music, but it's not THE most overrated, because it at least set a foundation for pretty much all music since that time. [/quote]
why not? its LOVED by the "high brow" types..yet alot dont see the apeal..personally I dont like the term "overated" anyhow
[quote/] Also, Kanye is a horrible example of a rapper, if you even wanna call him that.[/quote]
I like kanye..but hey different strokes right?[/quote]
Ok, one at a time here.
1. I say that because I think it's sad that people think there's music more widely and undeservedly loved than the music that gets voted as the "best" every week on musical publications across the nation daily, yet contains the most shallow, uninspired music of any genre. It's created to be loved by the masses, yet does nothing to deserve it. Maybe that is a bit of an attack, but something tells me I'm not the first person here to say something similar.
2. Then you agree to an extent that mainstream pop just plain isn't good.
3/4. Nope, I'm not and I never did. I said there are more acts following suit, a worn-out suit that's a few sizes too small at that, nowadays than any other point in time. Music is at a peak that continues to grow each and every year. With new technology, more convenience in learning an instrument or starting a band, it's easier for someone to pick up a guitar, start a band, or pick up a mic and start rapping, or anything else than ever. It's easier to record your music, fine-tune it, and create a portable medium in which to share it.
Music is in a better place than ever. With more potential to create music, save music, and share music. Music itself is doing great right now. What I'm talking about is what's done with the medium. A larger majority than ever are afraid to be creative. I'm not saying you have to be innovative to be good, but I believe many mainstream artists nowadays would sound vastly different if they weren't afraid their music wouldn't make enough money because it sounds different from what's on the radio. There are many amazing artists out there today, but they're in more of a minority than ever. Music isn't worse now, it's what's done with it that's worse. At least in my view.
5. Like I said, media sharing is at an all-time high. But you're not exactly going to be heard as easily when every sponsored music sharing site throws Nickelback and Gaga in your face whenever you click on it. People can find amazing new music without much effort, but who cares when most would never think to look for it because the radio's supposed to play the best music around. I don't listen to the radio either, but at least in say the 80's you could hear something unique. The DJ's didn't mindlessly string together sets of same-sounding music just so they don't get canned. More people still use the radio more than anything else, though it's obviously less and less by the year, to find out what's "hip" or "good" in the music scene, and they don't even attempt to expose us to something new unless it sounds like something we've already heard anymore.
6. Sorry to say it, but "Britney's Back *****!". She's still releasing music and is one of the top-selling artists of this new decade. That and I kinda brain-froze on another example.
7. The Top 40 IS Mainstream Pop, they're pretty much interchangeable.
8. Like I said, don't try to be different for different's sake, just don't be AFRAID to be different. I think a lot of artists currently are afraid to do that.
9. That's true, and it doesn't appeal to me either. But it at least has a place in musical history, and we likely wouldn't be having this same discussion if not for it. Also, a lot less like it than Manstream Pop, and part of being overrated is having a lot that rate you high.
10. He's a decent rapper when he tries. He's kinda like Drake before Drake with a smidge more talent. But he makes too much non-rap for me to consider him a rapper. Also, he's one of those guys you can tell can do better than he does, he just doesn't. When he first came out yea, but now he just flies through the song-writing process so he can sell albums with his name alone. And it works.
OH! and about people actually complaining about production differences, I saw it like 5-10 posts into this topic. And I've heard it brought up before. So yea, they do.
Well dubstep seems to be an American(and canadian) thing, i never even heard that kind of music before getting in Canada and it seems to be super popular here. And my opinion on it can be best described by a comment a friend made on it "How are you even supposed to dance on substep, acting like a spastic guy on Speed?"Hellequin24 said:
But for the rest i'd say modern rock and mainstream pop.
Immediate music and trance/Techno all the way. (Immediate music for home and trance/techno for partying)
1. pop is just pop..of coarse its not the "best" music has to offer...and itsoften been the case that the best stuff is also the more obscure...thats not unique to our modern timesSycoMantis91 said:
2. those peopel likely arnt big "music" fans..or teenagers...peopel eather grow out of pop and search for new and obscures stuff..or they sit there and moan about how everything was "better back in the day"...anyway..its all about trends..music go's through trends..genres become popular then fade back to their niche...overall I think your just speaking too generally to really get what your saying
3. in the 80's you were hearing 80's pop...and if its so unique then how come its VERY easy to tell if a song is from the 80's? (drums...synth...yep 80's)
4. britneys back? well see..I didnt know..I dont care
5. yeah...top 40 is like micheal bay movie...ignore it
6. ALL music has a place in music history...the rise of rock'n'roll...Nirvana ushering in a new music age in the 90's...the Eminems rise to fame..its all there, and its all rather interesting
7. I dont think kanye is the best in terms of actual skill or lyrical content..but I do really like som of his songs...its the production that reall shines through (like Kid Cudi) also his latest album "watch the throne" I think was really good
1. I agree, I just notice less "obscure" bands following their own path than in recent years.Vault101 said:
2. Oh, trust me. I know people n their 20's and 30's, some even pushing their 40's that think pop radio is the shit. And it may be that I wasn't born until the early 90's and the current brand of pop being overall all I've lived through in terms of pop music trends, save a few separate musical acts, but I realize there are phases. Elvis and big band in the 50's. The Beatles and Jazz in the 60's. Many of what's now considered "classic rock" in the 70's, along with disco. Hair Metal and the rise of Rap in the 80's. Grunge and a small stint for Heavy Metal (depending on your definition) in the 90's. This particular trend just seems to have more of a dominance over the culture of music as a while than it ever has. Generating a larger percentage if you will, of the overall musical output than it ever did. I might be wrong.
3. Yes, you were hearing 80's pop. But a lot of those same stations were playing Hair Metal, now "classic" rock, and rap. It's not really diverse, but moreso than many radio stations now.
4. I don't give a shit either, but she does pop up a lot and sell a lot still. I was simply quantifying her inclusion in my rant.
5. I agree. Neither are worth anyone's time, but both are oh so loud about it.
6. Agreed, but you don't see any of those in this list either. For obvious reasons, but still.
7. I enjoy some of his music, and some more of his music just hits my ears really wrong. So I admittedly don't delve all that deeply into his catalog. I just think for example, Nas, Pac, Public Enemy, Big Daddy Kane, NWA, Kurtis Blow, Rakim, etc. would have been a better example than just throwing out two big modern names like right now is all rap has done. I gotta admit, I'd have far less love for the genre as a whole if it was.
I don't see how Techno music can be overrated. It's predecessor Synthpop went underground in the 90s & techno evolved (silently, & not even available on radio station in big cities in America) & then it suddenly rises to the top & beats the pop style of 1998-2007 & now everyone is calling one type of techno "pop" which I think of as a genre rather than "popular music."
No, you've got that very wrong. Techno is a genre in itself - underneath the general umbrella of electronic (dance) music - and has several subgenres of it's own (see spoiler).likalaruku said:
Techno
UK Acid Techno
Schranz
Minimal
Techtrance/Trancetech
Ghettotech
... I could go on for pages listing different subgenres but you get the idea.
UK Acid Techno
Schranz
Minimal
Techtrance/Trancetech
Ghettotech
... I could go on for pages listing different subgenres but you get the idea.
You can just call it "shitty pop dance music" as most people do, or Eurodance or commercial dance/trance depending on the tune.
How diverse you perceive a genre is directly proportional to how much you know about and enjoy said genre.Suicidejim said:
Short version: If you hate a certain genre and don't listen to it, you'll think it all sounds the same.
Wow, you just described boy-bands and the whole phenomenon of "Theory-of-a-puddle-of-Days-of-the-Nickel-Creed".Jazoni89 said:
Start watching from 2:53; I'll admit that the other bits before that are amusing, but it's his discussion of 'Modern Rock Radio' that's relevant to this thread.
... it's pop music because it is popular. If Emperor became the best-selling band in the world tomorrow, then they would be pop music.Solemn Marth said: