If you've seen this video and have heard of what happened.....how do you feel about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rtnE-y_2uM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rtnE-y_2uM
Poll: The Officer Who Tased a Handicapped Person?
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I don't know what story your talking about, however, my opinion regarding police using tasers is that police should be allowed to carry and use them to protect themselves and others. However discharging a taser should result in said officer having to report why he felt he needed to use his weapon and justify it (much like when they how they do when they kill someone). If he can't then there should be consequences. This may already be the case but it sure does not seem to be the case.
Couldn't you supply a link or a backstory or ANYTHING?
I can't form an opinion until I know what happened.
I can't form an opinion until I know what happened.
it's a video that came out recently and still hasn't gone viral at all from my knowledge, tho PhilDefranco shone some light on it.
Seems like OP just made the thread and bailed as one of the poll options is half backed.
I will further add this is why I hate the way teasers are used in America, you should only EVER, EVER, EVER! use one if they can be considered violent or hostile. Not putting your hands down should not warrant discharge of such a weapon.
Seems like OP just made the thread and bailed as one of the poll options is half backed.
I will further add this is why I hate the way teasers are used in America, you should only EVER, EVER, EVER! use one if they can be considered violent or hostile. Not putting your hands down should not warrant discharge of such a weapon.
Edit: Took out my link, guy above already got there.
To be honest, I don't think that there's much of an argument in this. There's no way of really telling whether the person ACTUALLY is mentally handicapped (though I'm listening without sound, so something there might give that away).
I would also say that it doesn't seem to be that the person is complying, as the title suggest. Standing with your hands up in the air staring into the face of the officer is NOT complying. The officer was clearly gesturing with his hands, presumably giving an order which was ignored.
But this is all just speculative. I'd like to have all the details before passing judgement.
More edit: Ok, I just listened to about half of the video, I'd like to say I think that the cameraman is being a bit of a twat. First of all he's sitting there saying he hopes that the guy gets tasered, then he goes outside and tells the cop that the guy has mental issues? I have a slight feeling that it may be shenanigans.
To be honest, I don't think that there's much of an argument in this. There's no way of really telling whether the person ACTUALLY is mentally handicapped (though I'm listening without sound, so something there might give that away).
I would also say that it doesn't seem to be that the person is complying, as the title suggest. Standing with your hands up in the air staring into the face of the officer is NOT complying. The officer was clearly gesturing with his hands, presumably giving an order which was ignored.
But this is all just speculative. I'd like to have all the details before passing judgement.
More edit: Ok, I just listened to about half of the video, I'd like to say I think that the cameraman is being a bit of a twat. First of all he's sitting there saying he hopes that the guy gets tasered, then he goes outside and tells the cop that the guy has mental issues? I have a slight feeling that it may be shenanigans.
It looks like a bit too much, but I don't feel like I can say for sure since we don't know what actually happened.
But that cameraman is really being a jerk. "I hope he gets tased. If he gets tased it's going on YouTube."
Seriously?
But that cameraman is really being a jerk. "I hope he gets tased. If he gets tased it's going on YouTube."
Seriously?
In most jurisdictions (especially in the U.S.), non compliance still doesn't justify Taser use.No_Remainders said:
In a case decided December 28, 2009, the 9th Circuit ruled that a TASER® device is an intermediate weapon and as such requires a strong government interest before one can be used. This strong government interest as defined by the opinion requires the suspect pose an immediate threat to the officer or some other person to justify using an ECD.[footnote]http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2009/12/ninth-circuit-upholds-ruling-limiting.php[/footnote]
I think there should be more Taser cameras, which are a new thing, and cops should be much more thoroughly trained before getting them.
Seems pretty clear from the video that at the time he was hit with the taser he had his hands up and wasn't making even the slightest threatening move. I don't care if he was standing their yelling obscenities at the officer while ignoring every command he gave him, no indication of a threat means no justification to use a weapon with the potential to kill in some cases. And this is the problem with some police officers and the use of tasers. Many don't seem to recognize that they can, and have resulted in death in some cases. As far as I'm concerned, you should be held to the same standards when using a taser to defend yourself as you are when you use a gun.
Also, I agree with everyone who said the camera man was a bit of a dick.
Also, I agree with everyone who said the camera man was a bit of a dick.
Then he goes and cheers when the cop tases the other man. As far as I'm concerned, he's the biggest dick in that video. We don't see or hear any of what's going on before the guy started recording, so for all I know the cop had a valid reason to be doing that. We also only have the word of random people that the guy is mentally handicapped. But I know for sure that the guy holding the camera is a massive prick who hopes people get tased for his own amusement, and then has the nerve to go outside and pretend to care about the safety of the guy who got tased.Generic_Username said:
Mentally handicapped?
Just because someone doesn't have as much mental ability as you doesn't mean they can't be physically dangerous. In fact, they may be more physically dangerous to you because they don't have the restraint and same degree of maturity in their actions as a person of average intelligence.
Just because someone doesn't have as much mental ability as you doesn't mean they can't be physically dangerous. In fact, they may be more physically dangerous to you because they don't have the restraint and same degree of maturity in their actions as a person of average intelligence.
havent seen the vid or heard about it, but regardless of if your handicapped, if you fuck with the law, you deserve the punishment. No special treatment, and any handicapped person can still be a dangerous threat, perhaps even more so then an able bodied person.
EDIT:
Though I will say that i dont care much for the camera man. you can go out and reason with a cop if you present yourself in a non aggressive manner to defuse a situation like that. Something tells me that the news will pick this up, the camera man will get interviewed, and he'll say something like "this is sick and disgusting what the cop did" and they'll just conveniently start after the guy hopes the offender is tasered.
or depeneding on the news station it will ask why he felt they person should be tased, but i doubt that will happen/
EDIT:
Though I will say that i dont care much for the camera man. you can go out and reason with a cop if you present yourself in a non aggressive manner to defuse a situation like that. Something tells me that the news will pick this up, the camera man will get interviewed, and he'll say something like "this is sick and disgusting what the cop did" and they'll just conveniently start after the guy hopes the offender is tasered.
or depeneding on the news station it will ask why he felt they person should be tased, but i doubt that will happen/
As someone who is involved in law enforcement, I can tell you he looks to be ignoring the officer telling him to turn around, therefore, he gets tased. Officers NEVER cuff from the front, nor approach. What many people of the public don't seem to understand is that passive resistance, IS STILL resistance. Not complying with a lawful order (eg. Standing there and backtalking the officer and ignoring his repeated commands) is against the law.