This forever. Thank you for posting this article, I have never really been able to explain my views on freedom of speech adequately but this article explains everything perfectly.Nimbus said:Ima go ahead and throw this down here:
http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html
I think he was talking about the "child" part of the porn. He is saying that if it isn't a real child, it should not be banned. And I kind of agree with him on that 1.Hardcore_gamer said:Bullshit.bringer of illumination said:Because if it isn't real, then it isn't child porn.thaluikhain said:A zero tolerance policy in regards to child porn has been decided on and I can't see any real reason why it shouldn't have been.
Its like saying hentai isn't porn because its animated.
You are wrong, its other way around. By banning this piece of crap, you are acknowledging that the 'nut jobs' are right, hence opening the door to ban other games. Say, that involve killing people ? I mean, how murder is less wrong then rape, right ?Draitheryn said:It should absolutely be banned for no other reason than to not feed fuel to the fire of those nut jobs that want to ban video games in general.
I have to agree with that. The notion that all sorts of violent, demeaning and illegal porn could be protected under freedom of speech seems rather stupid to me.Smerf said:freedom of speech is one thing. this is horrible. all there is to it
the difference is that those media aren't interactive. there's a difference between freedom of speech and encouraging people to engage in a horrible crime that ruins livesSeventh Actuality said:It's rape porn. Rape porn exists in book, film and comic form and always has, mostly legally and without causing a firestorm like RapeLay did. So, whether rape porn should be banned is up for debate, but singling out RapeLay for a ban would be discrimination based on medium and set a precedent for video games not getting the same freedom of speech protections as other media.
xdom125x said:I think he was talking about the "child" part of the porn. He is saying that if it isn't a real child, it should not be banned. And I kind of agree with him on that 1.Hardcore_gamer said:Bullshit.bringer of illumination said:Because if it isn't real, then it isn't child porn.thaluikhain said:A zero tolerance policy in regards to child porn has been decided on and I can't see any real reason why it shouldn't have been.
Its like saying hentai isn't porn because its animated.
I recall a painting that summed it up nicely. It was of a pipe, and under it (written in French) it said "This is not a pipe". It isn't a real thing and people should remember that it isn't a real thing.
(I would totally post the image, but I forgot how to).
Edit: bringer of illumination ninja'd the point of this post.
Can you name one serial rapist who blamed it on the hentai? I'm not trolling, I mean it. Just one act of rape where the person said, look I was totally cool, but then I got all this stuff from Japan and BOOM. Rape o'clock.AkujiDelano said:I just think they should be very very careful about this.
Some people play games purely out of interest, or like me, they really enjoy psychology.
But others get very crazily obsessed, and that's when games get a bad reputation.
Perhaps there could be a method of screening people who want to play it...?
I was looking for a website I found a while back that showed a link between internet porn and declining sexual assault charges. The whole idea behind it is that people can get their jollies from something played up to be real on the internet without going out and causing these crimes themselves. I think your argument about serial killers is a little off. Serial killers generally do find it easier to kill a man after their first, but that doesn't mean if I play a game about killing people (gee I wonder where I could find one of those) it doesn't mean I'll find it easier to murder someone just because I did in the game.NightlyNews said:I'm stupidly free speech and voted for this to be legal in the poll.Mallefunction said:XD I'm a woman and I say keep it legal. Why? Because it's a fetish game, just like any other sexual roleplay that already exists. Let's face it, rape is a fetish for a lot of people. I'd rather those who entertain those thoughts to have an outlet rather than go crazy and ACTUALLY rape someone. As long as we aren't giving kids access, what is the harm?
But, at the same time I'm torn. I honestly believe that "living out" a rape fantasy wouldn't cause someone to be less likely to do it in real life. I'm no psychology nut or anything, but generally serial killers find it easier and easier to kill after their first murder.
I'm afraid this might be easing them into it *squick.
You like what you did there? Giving your opinion? Well your comment just bent that ammendment over a barrel, pal. Censorship is EVIL! and don't try and poke a hole in my comment about beeping out words or blurring an object. As long as it doesn't impede on anothers rights, it A-O.K, and since these are animated people, they have no rights(reading that back sounds twisted for some reason, lol)CarlMinez said:I have to agree with that. The notion that all sorts of violent, demeaning and illegal porn could be protected under freedom of speech seems rather stupid to me.Smerf said:freedom of speech is one thing. this is horrible. all there is to it