Poll: The Wasteland or Tamriel?

[Ironman126]

It's supposed to be made out of the Skyrim engine, and I hope that's the ONLY thing from Skyrim they use. I love the level up system in the Fallout games, and Skyrim's is just garbage.

I am going to respectfully disagree. I always hated how I had to dump an arbitrary number of points into a skill before I could properly use the next best weapon. If i want to get better at something, I practice it. But, that's just me.

I guess the biggest issue with how Skyrim handled their system was how they scaled the enemies. In Oblivion, you could level up what you wanted and you could kill the enemies because they were scaled with your highest stats, which were the ones you wanted. But in Skyrim, you'll have 7 different stats that are leveled "evenly" and if say your Smithing was particularly high, then the enemies were scaled to that, not your combat skills.

Ah, I get what your saying. Yeah, that could have been easily rectified by only having the enemies only level with your combat skills.

 

[Erttheking]

swords just aren't as exciting as assault rifles, what can I say?

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I find the Wasteland (Capital in particular) to be much more interesting.

There is so much mystery. So much that goes unsaid. It just makes me want to explore endlessly.
Tamriel is cool, but I feel it has already been discovered. Like everything in it has already been seen by someone.

I don't get that feeling from Fallout. The Wasteland just oozes atmosphere and style from every pore.

You must have heard this before, but I simultaneously both love and hate your avatar. It's hilarious to watch, but I find myself watching it over and over, and I hate it for that...

It's the same for me.... The people over at the Avatar Store are pretty amazing!

 

[Yureina]

I'll always prefer the Fallout setting over Tamriel. Medieval worlds just don't appeal to me nearly as much as the post-apocalypse. Especially a post-apocalypse as richly detailed as Fallout's world.

 

[Dutchy115]

Meh, they're both crap

Not your cup of tea? What games do you prefer then?

OT: Fallout. The Elder Scrolls didn't do much to immerse me, I was just a guy who stole things and did quests here and there. In Fallout I'm a guy who's trying to get back my godddamn Platinum chip, or get into the Brotherhood of Steel, or find out where the hell those trees came from. While stealing things and doing quests here and there.

Not my cup of coffee, I had a love-hate relationship with Oblivion right up till the point where I was sent on a mission to close every Oblivion gate of each city, got a bit repetitive after the third gate, so I quit and started playing Mass Effect, which had the unique quality of making me want to see it through to the end.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Meh, they're both crap

Not your cup of tea? What games do you prefer then?

OT: Fallout. The Elder Scrolls didn't do much to immerse me, I was just a guy who stole things and did quests here and there. In Fallout I'm a guy who's trying to get back my godddamn Platinum chip, or get into the Brotherhood of Steel, or find out where the hell those trees came from. While stealing things and doing quests here and there.

Not my cup of coffee, I had a love-hate relationship with Oblivion right up till the point where I was sent on a mission to close every Oblivion gate of each city, got a bit repetitive after the third gate, so I quit and started playing Mass Effect, which had the unique quality of making me want to see it through to the end.

Gotta say, I DO love me some Mass Effect. But I've spent a lot more time in the Mojave and the Capital Wasteland than I have on the Citadel

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Swords/magic = TES (I dislike guns in general)
Landscapes = TES
Backstory/ side quests = Fallout
VATS = Fallout
Exploration = TES
Music = TES (but it was close)

I give the edge to TES

Landscape: I'll give you that that TES has a lot more of it, but more isn't necessarily better. There's too much down time between things actually happening, and things happening in TES is usually just another cave of bandits.

Backstory/Side Quests: You're right on the money. Skyrim has WAY too many MMO style "kill w number of x" and "bring me y number of z" for me. Oblivion was a little better I think but I still prefer Fallout.

Exploration: This kinda comes back to the Landscape argument. TES may have forests and caves and all that is kind of moot when there's really just the same square mile over and over again. I have to walk a much shorter distance to find much more interesting landmarks.

Music: Both have great ambient music, but Fallout has something that TES is seriously lacking, and that's an in-flight movie so to speak. The Radio in Fallout just makes your treck through the Wasteland so much better.

 

[Voulan]

Tamerial. A lot of people don't bother to look into the lore behind the setting. Some of the most interesting game lore out there. Makes the whole place seem much more vibrant.

I agree. The sheer amount of history behind every rock and in every corner is astounding. There are even different versions of the creation myth of Tamriel from different races, and different perspectives of the Aedra and Deadra. Tamriel is essentially a collection of different mythical worlds in one, and each clashes along the way in epic wars for power and control because of their differences.

Sure, the characters aren't particularly vibrant - but the world is definitely alive.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Tamerial. A lot of people don't bother to look into the lore behind the setting. Some of the most interesting game lore out there. Makes the whole place seem much more vibrant.

I agree. The sheer amount of history behind every rock and in every corner is astounding. There are even different versions of the creation myth of Tamriel from different races, and different perspectives of the Aedra and Deadra. Tamriel is essentially a collection of different mythical worlds in one, and each clashes along the way in epic wars for power and control because of their differences.

Sure, the characters aren't particularly vibrant - but the world is definitely alive.

And Fallout doesn't have Lore?

 

[Voulan]

And Fallout doesn't have Lore?

I said nothing about Fallout. I was talking about how much I love the lore in Tamriel, remember? Every world someone creates has lore behind it - such is the process of creating a world - but I'm talking about how rich the Elder Scrolls universe is and how that makes me prefer it.

I love both worlds, but I guess I enjoy magic more than technology. I'd live in Arcadia rather than Starc, if you get the reference.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

And Fallout doesn't have Lore?

I said nothing about Fallout. I was talking about how much I love the lore in Tamriel, remember? Every world someone creates has lore behind it - such is the process of creating a world - but I'm talking about how rich the Elder Scrolls universe is and how that makes me prefer it.

I love both worlds, but I guess I enjoy magic more than technology. I'd live in Arcadia rather than Starc, if you get the reference.

I prefer how real and rooted the Fallout lore is. Something about how it's our world with one small historical difference that changed everything into this charred wasteland just means more to me

 

[Nomanslander]

Honestly I'll go with the Wastelands. Major reason being that I've never really come across the post-apocalyptic genre with such detail. Tamriel as illustrious as it is is still a poorer version of middle earth, and high fantasy for me has been done to death.

 

[Carl The Manicorn]

Capital Wasteland. I think that living Tamriel would be safer, but the Capital Wasteland would be more fun.

In Tamriel, everything is day-to-day and normal. But with the Capital Wasteland, you can run around and do what you want. You may die any minute from an impending Super Mutant attack!

Besides, 'MERICA!

 

[Naeo]

Elder Scrolls, because of Morrowind. Morrowind, much moreso than Oblivion (and i have not played Skyrim, so I can't compare there yet) had a wonderful "alien" feel, a deeply entrenched mythos/lore, and the game really did feel like you were being plopped right in the middle of some alien world without the benefit of much exposition as to what the place was. Also, Jiub. Fallout doesn't have Jiub, so Elder Scrolls is inherently superior.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

Fallout series hands down, mostly because of New Vegas though. Far more interesting characters and storyline...

I see this all the time when comparing the two newer Fallout games and I wish I understood why. I thought New Vegas improved on a bunch of gameplay but the story, characters, and factions put me to sleep. They were all so generic and blah. Everywhere you go its NCR this and NCR that. Fallout 3 was no masterpiece either, but I at least found the setting more interesting, it felt way more post apocalyptic to me.
I must be insane.

 

[Bostur]

I never 'got' the Elder Scrolls, so I'm naturally biased. The thing about archetypical Fantasy/Sci-Fi settings is that they need an angle to be interesting. TES doesn't have an angle. It's just generic continents, with generic races and generic quests.

Fallout uses a generic backdrop, the post-apocalyptic wasteland. But inside that backdrop it adds large and small elements unique to Fallout. Small elements like the use of bottle caps as currency. Large elements like how Vegas is rising to power, or how the vaults reach almost mythical status.

The Fallout games twists my expectations around, the Elder Scrolls games simply confirm my expectations. The former is much more interesting.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

It's kind of a hard choice. Skyrim is beautiful and epic and all that, but the charecterization is really shitty, the different factions are boring shallow and unintresting and pretty much the only time in the entire game when I was truly impressed by quality rather than quantity was in the dwarven ruins. The wasteland is visually boring, but it's populated by interesting characters and factions and situations and the whole experience is deep and wonderful.

In short, tamriel would win every day of the week if it wasn't so bloody shallow.