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Vampires would win. They've got a higher intelligence generally and could therefore put aside differences to work for the good of survival. They'd corral uninfected humans together and keep them safe as a source of food (only taking as much as necessary so the humans don't die, thereby giving them an unlimited feeding source), and from there they could battle the zombies with the brains, something the zombies hunger for but don't have.
Assuming we're talking about slow scufflers as opposed to "OMG That zombie's running along the wall on all fours and JESUS CHRIST IT BIT ME AND OH GOD MY LEGS!" kind of zombies.
Vampires would win. They've got a higher intelligence generally and could therefore put aside differences to work for the good of survival. They'd corral uninfected humans together and keep them safe as a source of food (only taking as much as necessary so the humans don't die, thereby giving them an unlimited feeding source), and from there they could battle the zombies with the brains, something the zombies hunger for but don't have.
Assuming we're talking about slow scufflers as opposed to "OMG That zombie's running along the wall on all fours and JESUS CHRIST IT BIT ME AND OH GOD MY LEGS!" kind of zombies.
I think you might be missing where the true power of zombies comes from: numbers. Sure, individual zombies are nothing. Anyone taken down by one zombie on flat ground pretty much deserves it... but nobody beats the hoarde... except maybe that guy from Dead Rising.Amnestic post=18.73764.808398 said:
Now, if we're talking armies of vampires versus the undead masses*... that's an interesting concept...
EDIT: Sorry. Forgot vampires are undead, too. Change that to shuffling hoarde. Sounds better.
I still reckon they'd win out in the end. Vampires aren't slouches either remember, super human strength and whatnot. If they could bottleneck the stupid zombies (quite easy all things considered) then numbers become pointless as all the vampires have to focus on is one at a time, not to mention traps that could be laid in place. No, I definetly think the thing vampires would fear most in a zombie uprising would be: Failure to work together and lack of food. If they solved these two problems as I described above, I reckon they could wait out/survive a zombie uprising with relative ease.OuroborosChoked post=18.73764.808415 said:
I'm not really sure what "classical" vampires are these days. Are we talking...D&D? Buffy? Dracula? There's so many versions that it's a little hard to decide really.
Now, are these the vampires that can only be killed by a stake through the heart or decapitation or something, or are they highly damageable? If they are the former, there's no doubt that the vampires would win; they're infinitely smarter than zombies, plus they won't have to worry about even getting seriously hurt by the zombies. Also, if the vampires can transform into clouds of gas and bats and wolves and such, then the zombies obviously don't stand a chance.(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.807840 said:
Vampires ftw.
Crabs, though.....Hmmm.....Tough choice......
I had the same problem, too. Too many interpretations of what zombies can do. Using the Return of the Living Dead example again, the only way to get rid of them was to incinerate them... and god help you if it rained on a cemetary with that smoke in the air.Amnestic post=18.73764.808433 said:
I vote we go for bloodlines type vampire i.e ones that can withstand bashing damage with ease (bullets count as bashing in this case) and regenerate damage done, slashing damage is more difficult but still regenerates (possible to kill if you cut them faster then regeneration). Aggravated does major damage (we're talking sunlight, fire and the supernatural-eg werewolf claws- here) and takes longer to regenerate.
Either that or Ye Olde Rising Corpse type that breaks out of its coffin each night to hunt for blood and can only be slain with a stake thought the heart, its head cut off and turned backwards in the coffin, mouth stuffed with rosemary and coffin chucked into a running stream.
Either way Vamps should win if the problem of food can be counteracted (do zombies distinguish between vamps and humans? I mean vamps are already dead is dead flesh/brains as yummy?).
Either that or Ye Olde Rising Corpse type that breaks out of its coffin each night to hunt for blood and can only be slain with a stake thought the heart, its head cut off and turned backwards in the coffin, mouth stuffed with rosemary and coffin chucked into a running stream.
Either way Vamps should win if the problem of food can be counteracted (do zombies distinguish between vamps and humans? I mean vamps are already dead is dead flesh/brains as yummy?).
Zombies don't need to feed, they just like to; unlike vampires. Besides Zombies have no real blood so the vampires would starve to death. Also, why is Crabs an option? You were just trying to rope in Iron Ninja weren't you.
Are they regular crabs, the sort that you eat; or big ones, like Japanese Spider crabs? Or a mixture? And are they likely to receive tacit support from the rest of the crustaceans? Also, vampire crabs. Who are they fighting for? 'Cause they look angry.
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Surely they have to feed, what animates them and allows them movement if not the flesh/braaaaaaaaaains that they feed upon?
addressed in my post. Besides, even if all the humans were zombies, vampires have been known to be able to live on animal blood in certain incarnations.
Discworld vampires don't need blood. In fact, most vampire characters in the books are "Black Ribboners" - they've taken a pledge to drink "not one drop" of blood. In order to not drink blood, though... they find some other addiction, like photography or coffee...conqueror Kenny post=18.73764.808465 said:
Zombies would win. Vampires are limited by light, plus they kill their victims, not change them into one of their own. Just a few zombies could become a swarm overnight.
Vampires. Zombies are mindless husks which only want to infect others. Vampires are smart, strong, fast (not as fast as were-wolves though), and are very smart. Zombies are unorganised and die off when they run out of food (lasting much longer than when they were humans however), while vampires can organise, can survive in stasis when a food supply is unavailable and can survive on pig/sheep blood. Also, if it's an eastern european vampire they can most likely fly/transform into a flying creature.
In the end neither zombies nor vampires would succeed, instead it would be the ever increasing zombie vampires.
In the end neither zombies nor vampires would succeed, instead it would be the ever increasing zombie vampires.
How would a zombie vampire work? A zombie bitten by a vampire? The other way round?Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808514 said:
Agreed on the vamps winning, though... I think that the vampires could be as fast as werewolves, though. You know how vampires have that cool habit of being in one place, then instantaneously reappearing right behind you or whatnot? I'd like to see a werewolf do that.
I think we need a definition of exactly what types of vampires and what types of zombies we'd have combating each other though. Then we can have some real fun.
A vampire who finishes what's on his plate?jamanticus post=18.73764.808531 said:
Undead squared?
What is your definition of survive? Like.. Kill all the zombies?
I don't know how many vampires are, but its common sense that zombies will outnumber vampires by a dramatic amount.
I don't know how many vampires are, but its common sense that zombies will outnumber vampires by a dramatic amount.
Actually, I believe that just makes them dead.EnzoHonda post=18.73764.808218 said:
It depends on which version you're following the rules of.trademespots post=18.73764.808503 said:
Before I decide which would win, are they just vampires and zombies or are they ninja vampires and pirate zombies?