You said that ninja was a shortened form for Katana, not for Ninjato, so why explain something else?AugustFall said:
Poll: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "NINJA SWORD"!
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Didn't Samurai use Katanas?Iwantcandy said:
real ninjas rareley used swords, since most of them were peasants and couldn't afford them/weren't allowed to carry them.
they used farming tools, small daggers, poison etc.
Also, shuriken means hidden blade or something like that, throwing blade or throwing star are both acceptable English translations.
As has been said already a "ninja sword" is a Ninja-to as for shurikin, throwing star is acceptable but they were not ninja exclusive weapons they were a weapon desinged to ditract the enemy so that you could run away or kill him while his attention was slit.
Also is bugs me that people say "katanas" as the plural form of katana,
katana is it's own plural as are many japanese words.
also somwhat relavent katana is actually the japanese word for sword and pretty much all japanese swords have specific names,
though to make it even more confusing there is in fact a type of sword called a katana,
it's as though they were deliberatly trying to confuse people.
Also is bugs me that people say "katanas" as the plural form of katana,
katana is it's own plural as are many japanese words.
also somwhat relavent katana is actually the japanese word for sword and pretty much all japanese swords have specific names,
though to make it even more confusing there is in fact a type of sword called a katana,
it's as though they were deliberatly trying to confuse people.
Actually, by all rights the iconic weapon of the samurai should be the yari, in much the same way the the flail or cavalry axe should be the iconic weapon of mounted knights as most people imagine them. That also depends on time period, blade type, etcetera. There, I've indulged my inner snooty history buff.Frotality said:
What? I said a "Ninja Sword", aka. a Ninjato, is like a short katana. Ninja swords or Ninjato do exist so what are you asking in this thread?Iwantcandy said:
Actually, the thread was not about what ninjas did and how it is, it was about people saying "ninja sword", so I'd like it if people would kindly stick to the subject if you're going to tell me about historical facts. I have nothing against eastern history, but it seems that some people misunderstand the topic.moretimethansense said:
Sorry good sir, I didn't notice that you wrote that, while reading quick through all the comments.AugustFall said:
Ninja sword and shuriken.
Yeah, thanks to the English localization of Final Fantasy Tactics, I will forever refer to them as ninja swords. However, I know a shuriken when I see one and I refuse to call it a throwing star. The term "throwing star" sounds about as stupid as the term "watering can".
Yeah, thanks to the English localization of Final Fantasy Tactics, I will forever refer to them as ninja swords. However, I know a shuriken when I see one and I refuse to call it a throwing star. The term "throwing star" sounds about as stupid as the term "watering can".
Actually, I doubt ninja ever actually used ninjatos, all things considered. Also, the average length for katana was about 37 inches. Just FYIAthol said:A Ninjato is a shorter (approx. 2 feet) straight edged sword, ment to be easy to carry and use in confined spaces.
A Katana is a longer (4 - 5 feet) sword with a slight curve towards the tip of the blade, to increase the cutting potential of the blade.
Well, see it as this: Referring to your computer as "that machine", instead of a computer, because it is a machine.poiumty said:
Wow, I'm surprised to see how many people get pissed off about this.
Me personally I've used both sets of words, except Ninjato, I always thought it was a Katana.
Then again, I never really cared about it that much, so I never gave it much thought.
Me personally I've used both sets of words, except Ninjato, I always thought it was a Katana.
Then again, I never really cared about it that much, so I never gave it much thought.
Huh? I didn't think I got particularly worked up. A bit annoyed perhaps, but it's not like I was TYPING ALL IN CAPS or acting a fool. Did I really come off like that? Sorry, I guess.Athol said:
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Just went back and read my post again. It does seem a bit hysterical, doesn't it? I think I'll go and edit that. It makes me seem like one of those crazy japanophiliac types.
From wikipedia:
"There is no historical evidence of the 'ninjato', and modern depictions of the sword originate from portrayals that were seen in early Hollywood movies. Actual period ninjas used a variety of other weapons."
I wouldn't get too worried about it.
"There is no historical evidence of the 'ninjato', and modern depictions of the sword originate from portrayals that were seen in early Hollywood movies. Actual period ninjas used a variety of other weapons."
I wouldn't get too worried about it.
I know, most of my post was in fact about japanese swords and what they are called/I call them.Iwantcandy said:
I just put the rest in there because it was somewhat relevant and I thought people may find it interesting.
I also realised that I didn't metion what I actually call them,
With weapons I prefer to call them byb there proper names, the names they were given in their country of origin,
unless of course I have no freaking clue how to pronounce it.