Poll: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "NINJA SWORD"!
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Not a big deal. As long as everyone knows what I'm referring to when I say 'ninja sword' or 'throwing star', who could it possibly hurt?
Chill out, folks.
Chill out, folks.
From what I've read, the hilt on that ninjato is a bit off. Normally the blades were very thin, poorly made, very short weapons, to enhance the stealth characteristics. The hilts were typically completely hollow, small enough for poisoned darts. They basically would be considered unfit for the Samurai to use.Taxicab Samurai said:
ninja sword
Katana
Throwing star and shuriken are the same thing, americanized name.
The Katana is considered a noble weapon, and the design hasn't changed much, just the manufacturing techniques. It's still interesting that the highest paid soldiers feudal Japan were those who could wield the Yari.
Maybe they are not refering to Ninjato, but another type of sword that ninjas use. In a way, isnt any sword a ninja uses therefore a ninja sword. And If every sword is a ninja sword,then they are no longer ninja swords. Theyre just swords.
A Ninjato and a Katana are not the same thing. They are shaped differently and have different lengths. The Ninjato is shorter and usually of cheaper quality, it is basically a tool and nothing more. A katana is a finely crafted work of art used for combat and held in high esteem of samurai and it's other practicioners.
Its called language obtuseness and adaptation, perhaps i should call each type of spoon a dessert spoon or a soup spoon or ladle spoon every time i refer to one. You probably don't know what an Estoc,Cudgel or Chakam are but I'm not going to chastise you for looking them up.
You remind me of when I used to play SSBM with my friend, and he'd get pissed when I called the ray gun a laser pistol.
I wouldn't say either, because I wouldn't associate ninjas with swords. Not that it really matters, "ninja sword" is easily recognisable as ninjato for those that know what it is, and identifies it as a specific sword that ninjas use for those that don't.
So pragmatically speaking, ninja sword is better than ninjato.
Because we don't live in feudal japan.
So pragmatically speaking, ninja sword is better than ninjato.
Because we don't live in feudal japan.
I don't see what the big deal is with calling it a ninjato or ninja sword. They're the same thing, some people just don't know the correct terminology.
It's the exact same as calling a gladius a 'gladiator sword' or a katana a 'samurai sword'.
As for shurikins, same deal.
It's the exact same as calling a gladius a 'gladiator sword' or a katana a 'samurai sword'.
As for shurikins, same deal.
I agree, though it doesn't piss me off that much. But if people know what it's called, then call it that.
Not everyone knows their actual name and alot of people I know just have trouble prenouncing Katana or Shuriken.
Also, Soul Calibur 4 disagrees with you.
Check out the weapon names
Also, Soul Calibur 4 disagrees with you.
Check out the weapon names
This.Archangel357 said:
And take into account that even experts on Japan history has a little knowledge about Ninjas and what they used. Polularization by a western movies of 80's don't make them any special to oriental culture nor to the development of their civilization. Who cares how they are called if everybodu understands that reference, and it's reference to movies crap, not a real things.
Since you're not saying that a Ninja Sword and a Ninjato are different things per se I'm wondering what your point is. Are you saying that every item in existance only has one correct name? Are you saying that nouns should not be translated into any other language but that of their origin? Are you saying that descriptive terms should never be used under penalty of death? Are you just boasting about your knowledge of this part of japanese culture and looking for a way in which your knowledge of ninja weapons can elevate you above us, the common mortal who dare use the term "throwing star"?
Look; words are not concrete. A Ninja Sword is exactly the same thing as a Ninjato. A Throwing Star is the same thing as a Shuriken. The terms are recognisable as meaning the item they are meant to and there is no problem. Getting yourself concerned with these pedantics is exactly as pointless as me noting that you incorrectly used a comma after the word "sword" in your original post.
But hey, if you still want to use it as a validation of your own superiority, (yes, I am aware that I say this as some twat who calls himself Superior Mind,) then more power to you.
Look; words are not concrete. A Ninja Sword is exactly the same thing as a Ninjato. A Throwing Star is the same thing as a Shuriken. The terms are recognisable as meaning the item they are meant to and there is no problem. Getting yourself concerned with these pedantics is exactly as pointless as me noting that you incorrectly used a comma after the word "sword" in your original post.
But hey, if you still want to use it as a validation of your own superiority, (yes, I am aware that I say this as some twat who calls himself Superior Mind,) then more power to you.
I watched waaay too many bad ninja movies back in the 80s, so yeah I guess you could classify me as one of those dumb arses that says samurai sword and ninja star lol. Gotta admit never really thought about it that much.
In context, I regularly refer to my machine as 'my machine', as in "I don't know what you're doing wrong; it works on my machine" and "I just got the parts for my new machine this morning".Iwantcandy said:
Your analogy sucked anyway. Calling the sword that ninjas use a 'ninja sword' is comparable to calling a computer a 'computing machine'. A perfectly accurate term.