Poll: Time Travel is Impossible, or at the Very Best, Highly Unlikely

[thethingthatlurks]

if time travel were possible we would see people from the future and it would create a time paradox people are stupid for thinking its possible

Just as with this grammar thing. Damn punctuation marks...people are stupid for using 'em!

No, the information is the key! otherwise you just have a bunch of elementary particles without any coherent...anything. It doesn't matter if you can transport matter. Matter is everywhere, you just need to present it with the correct information.

But in that case you only shift the problem from teleportation to creating artificial biological matter in less time than it would take to bring it there the "normal" way, which is equally ludicrous.

*shrugs* In my work, we just give that problem to the engineers and let them worry about it. You wanted to know what teleportation is, and you've got it. It's not fancy, it's not convenient, but it's damn fun to think about.

Is it using quantum entanglement?

The moment we invent faster than light, or even near light speed travel, we essentially invent a time machine anyway. The closer you get to light speed, the slower time passes. If you travelled at light speed away from our planet for a day and came back, when you return to earth a great deal more than a day will have passed for those who stayed on earth. So from the point of view of the people in the spaceship, they have traveled into the future. Relativity is going to be a ***** for anyone who has appointments to keep.

only problem is that IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPPOSSIBLE TO GO AT/PAST THE SPEED OF LIGHT!

Yes, that's entanglement. One particle's state cannot be fully expressed without another particle, ergo they are kinda identical, etc. Fun stuff!
Oh, and your last point: no, it's only impossible for a particle with real mass to exceed the speed of light. Subtle distinction, but it opens up a whole new field of theoretical headache inducing models.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

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well it was close.
just...remember that you're standing on a planet thats evolving and revolving at 900 miles an hour. that's orbiting at 90 miles a second so it's reckoned the sun that is the source of all our power.....

http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/07/24/free-comic-book-day-2009/

 

[Ekonk]

Fun fact: I'm travelling through time right now.

 

[Staskala]

*shrugs* In my work, we just give that problem to the engineers and let them worry about it. You wanted to know what teleportation is, and you've got it. It's not fancy, it's not convenient, but it's damn fun to think about.

Really? I never asked you anything, you just rephrased a few things to look like a smartass.
Let the engineers come up with a machine to create biological matter from nothing, good joke.
In my work we look at all the impracticable crap physicists come up with and try to make anything useful out of it. Guess that makes us pretty incompatible, physicists don't care about practical aspects and engineers don't care about theories with no practical use at all. Have fun being an idiot savant educated person.

Good day.

 

[ImprovizoR]

If it were possible, we'd already know, because someone from the future would have come back by now.

And how do you know that someone from the future hasn't returned here? There are a lot of people that claim to have come from the future. We call them crazies but you never know. Also, maybe in the future there are some laws about that stuff.

 

[PrimoThePro]

Holy shit. At my vote, its 84 to 84. Perfect 50% split.

But anyway.

Even if time travel were possible, it would be completely moot.

The earth spins at over one thousand miles per hour. It revolves around the sun at sixty-seven thousand miles per hour. The sun orbits the Milky Way at a speed I don't know off the top of my head, bit it's huge. The Milky Way hurtles through intergalactic space even faster than that.

If you travel just one second in time, you might still be within the circumference of Pluto's orbit when you die in the cold vacuum of space.

PS: Ten bucks to anyone who knows what I'm quoting.

First of all, that comic where it's the robot vs. the raptor from "the past" (But he's really only a science experiment. My bro sent me that comic after reading my thread. You owe me ten bucks.)
Second of all the poll has been goin' back and forth, I don't see any one side taking the top spot! EGADS!

 

[ninjajoeman]

well if we change something in the past then likely we have already did this so the events that changed are already done so what exists now has been screwed up by scientists in the future.

that is what I think.

 

[PrimoThePro]

Holy shit. At my vote, its 84 to 84. Perfect 50% split.

But anyway.

Even if time travel were possible, it would be completely moot.

The earth spins at over one thousand miles per hour. It revolves around the sun at sixty-seven thousand miles per hour. The sun orbits the Milky Way at a speed I don't know off the top of my head, bit it's huge. The Milky Way hurtles through intergalactic space even faster than that.

If you travel just one second in time, you might still be within the circumference of Pluto's orbit when you die in the cold vacuum of space.

PS: Ten bucks to anyone who knows what I'm quoting.

...OP?

In a way, but I'm under the impression that he got his conclusion from where I got my quote.

Nonono! Seriously! My bro sent me that comic AFTER I made this thread! The coyote bit was a fabrication, the true story was that I was sitting at home Stumblin' the internet when I came across the article about how fast the Earth is moving. And me being me I thought of stuff.

 

[skeliton112]

Nothing is impossible.

So its impossible for anything to be impossible?

 

[MadeinHell]

I'm way too tired to read through the whole thread right now but time travelling has been proven as possible yet very energy consuming.

Look up theory of linearity.

 

[AssassinJoe]

I think that time travel technology can be developed.

Then again, I might be a little biased seeing as how I'm a time traveling hyper-rabbit from the future come back to warn everyone of the impending shortage of carrots.

 

[crudus]

No joke poll options up in this thread!
EDIT: Okay guys, I'm seriously enjoying the discussion we have going on. I read a little about Multi-Dimensional travel. Do multiple dimensions even exist? And if so, how could we even get to them?

Counter question: why are you picking at problems when we haven't even proven they will be an issue? Time travel is theoretically possible. Physicists are currently working on it. Right now the math says you can't go to a point before the time machine was made. That is about as far as they have gotten. The first step is to send a particle through time and go from there. We aren't just going to start with a human and figure out calibration from there.

As far as the second one, do you mean multiple dimensions or multiple universes?

You are correct, they wouldn't jump the gun and go straight to people, but how would they track that one particle? How could you choose where it ends up? If it doesn't show up, but disappeared, where did it go?
I'm pretty sure I mean multiple dimensions. But multiple Universes, made up of different galaxies would be interesting to ponder. To be honest, I have never even heard of multiple dimensions being used for time travel, and that is what I am asking here.

Well I am saying they would say "ok, send this particle through the (supposed) time portal. We didn't get it on the other side! Good Job people! Next step: figuring out where it went". Crawl before you run.

Ok, first you need to understand what Multiple Dimensions even means.

Spoiler: Here is an excellent video to help you understand

Spoiler: part two if you are interested

 

[Continuity]

Okay, so the other day I was in my backyard raking, when out of the small forest behind my house come a Coyote pack. Me and my dog fight 'em off, but one gashed my ear open. This made me ponder time travel. And I thought, with all the variables of time travel, I think it is utterly impossible we could get it working. Consider this. The Earth is currently spinning. No argument there. If we were to go back in time, we would move. If you were standing on the equator, you are moving 1,674 km/h. The Earth is also orbiting around the sun at an astonishing speed of 107, 229 km/h. And on top of THAT, our solar system is revolving around the Milky Way at approximately 719,000 km/h! And if you want to get REALLY technical, (Which we do) The Milky Way itself is moving at an astonishing rate of approximately 200 kilometers... A SECOND...
Now we put all of those things together, and assuming you are standing at the equator, you are moving at a ridiculous pace of 2,160,000 km/hr. Yes. It's over 2,000,000! (Crush Scouter)
Moving back in time... for even 1 second... Will send you so far in space that it makes my head spin. Of course, science being what it is, there is always a way to work around that, but I'm just going to assume that the power consumption to send someone safely back in time would probably be equivalent of the sun. That is just a guess of course. Please, Escapist, discuss, and tell me how you think that Time Travel could work, and how Science may work around such obstacles. Or go ahead and throw in some more facts that say Time Travel can never happen. It's all in your personal opinion.
No joke poll options up in this thread!
EDIT: Okay guys, I'm seriously enjoying the discussion we have going on. I read a little about Multi-Dimensional travel. Do multiple dimensions even exist? And if so, how could we even get to them?
P.S. Somehow, this thread went into Gaming Discussion. I am not sure how. Bit spooky, considering the topic. Mods, if you would be so kind, could you please move it? Or would that be breaking the laws of physics! ^_^(I AM SO WITTY)

You're thinking about space and time rather than space-time; the reality of the universe is non-euclidean 4 dimensional space-time (or possibly more dimensions than that e.g. 12). You cant just rewind time without altering the whole space-time frame. If you see what I mean. Or in other words you cant travel in time without travelling in space, and so if you go back in time you wouldn't have to worry about where you end up in space because you would end up in exactly the same frame of reference in which you started.

At least that's what I expect.

 

[Chorionicstu]

wow 50/50 split on this poll. interesting.

 

[bad rider]

Time seems like a human measure of the progress of events. So I guess I'm saying it won't work because it has to work off an imaginary measurement, if that makes sense.

 

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I say: time travel is most likely impossible, as the very concept of time and its passage is a human/ animal construct, our very perception of time is just that: a perception, it is not a physical body of force or energy, or some kind of river (im sure the prince of persia will agree) , it is more an idea...in fact if no sentient life truly existed then in many senses time too will cease to exist. <<<<<< this is probably all wrong but what the hey thats my 2 cents.

 

[PrimoThePro]

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That was extremely interesting, and I can safely say I knew what multiple dimensions were, I just didn't know it officially. Such as I knew the first dimension, second dimension, and third dimension. (I didn't, however know about all the other ones up to the tenth dimension. Thank you for this mind expander!)