Poll: To all Fellow PC Gamers What Kind of Mouse do you use.

[Conza]

Just a quick question as I wanted to see if we had a lot of diversity in this category. Me personally I use a track ball mouse as I find that only using my fingers instead of my entire hand really helps reaction time. Also I don't have to worry about bumping into things moving a mouse around.

Whatever works.

And most gamers seem to have this stupid polarisation, towards beliving that wired mice are better than wireless. The are two possible advantages wired have over wireless, one, no batteries, so you don't need to recharge the mouse/battery and two, cost - that's all.

Wireless mice are in the lead in every other way, just look at consoles, they don't use wires anymore, and when they do, it's for charging purposes.

Personally I'm on to my second Logitech G7, but if I had the doe, I'd buy a RAT 9, which is essentially a modern version of the G7. Wireless mice only work if you have swappable batteries (G7 and RAT9 both have), or, a permentantly plugged in cord to the back of your computer, than when your wireless mouse runs low on battery, you can plug in and use as a regular mouse (and I think the RAT9 has that as well).

But all this crap about wireless lag, it's just that, crap. If you keep a microwave, running, near your computer, or have a router on the same frequency, or even a wireless home phone, I still think you'd struggle to cause interference, and would love to see some evidence that any of those things can and have interfered with a wireless mouse.

It's the way to go people, get ust to it.

 

[Treblaine]

Logitech G9, it's much better than it looks

Hmm, how easy it is to Palm that thing? Are those inter-changeable covers?

I have big hands, use large-sized gloves and I've frequently found mouse and gamepad controllers too small.

 

[Sprong]

I used the same cheap mouse for a long time ... it had a busted scroll wheel, which would sometimes go up instead of down, or scroll very fast or very slow. The third button, i.e. pressing the scroll wheel down, was erratic too - which was especially annoying when trying to access the dashboard overlay on my Mac.

Eventually I couldn't stand it any longer and replaced it with a Logitech wireless M505. Best. Decision. Ever.

 

[Treblaine]

Wireless mice are in the lead in every other way, just look at consoles, they don't use wires anymore, and when they do, it's for charging purposes.

Hmm, don't confuse marketability with genuine advantage.

Wireless controllers are most beneficial with consoles because more often than not there is a well walked pathway between the HDTV where the console lays underneath and where you sit. Idiots walking across and tripping over those cables have cost me several game discs. But on PC you are RIGHT next to it, why use wireless when a cable only has to go a single foot.

Oh yeah, and lag IS an issue. It is an added layer of needless complexity and doubt, has nothing to do with nearby microwave ovens it's inherent to the coding and transcoding of the input signal. You can get reduced lag but only by paying MUCH MORE for still less performance than a wired mouse and still the battery drain is faster as the signal interval is shorter.

With two wireless mouse I used, one I ALWAYS forgot to put in its charging cradle to come back and find it dead. Great, now my computer is paralysed for another half an hour. And with the one using AA batteries I looked at the cost in 6 months I had spent to price of an entire new mouse.

Yes you can use a wireless mosue for gaming but:
-have to pay more for acceptable lag
-still have to tolerate some level of lag
-deal with bullshit of charging
-The cost burden feeding it AA batteries
-lower-lag models eat up juice quicker
-more driver/connection issues

All to eliminate a little wire coming out the front? It's not worth it. To me at least.

When I started out gaming, wireless mouse lag didn't affect me. But after I got better it really started to get in the way.

Wireless might be worth it on Vidya consoles considering the living room layout (distance, people wandering) but not on a desktop PC.

 

[Tax_Document]

Razer Diamondback here.

WOO! GO DIAMOND BACK!

 

[LandoCristo]

Razer DeathAdder. Wired, with gold-plated USB, adjustable sensitivity, two thumb-buttons. Love it.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I used to be a healer on wow so I have a razer naga, its nice for other games too. I mostly have it becuase I'm a girl and i have tiny hands, I can't reach alot of buttons comfortably so it gives me more choice for keybinds...lol

 

[Conza]

Wireless mice are in the lead in every other way, just look at consoles, they don't use wires anymore, and when they do, it's for charging purposes.

Hmm, don't confuse marketability with genuine advantage.

I'm certainly not doing that, but, continue.

Wireless controllers are most beneficial with consoles because more often than not there is a well walked pathway between the HDTV where the console lays underneath and where you sit. Idiots walking across and tripping over those cables have cost me several game discs. But on PC you are RIGHT next to it, why use wireless when a cable only has to go a single foot..

Perhaps you are, I have a hallway and a periscope before I can see my 70inch LCD screen

Ok, ok, yes, corded mice do not cause trips, or 'usually' distance issues, but I love having my mouse available to move away from my desk (like, when I'm watching movies in my bed across from the screen, I don't need to get up just to click 'next' or 'pause/play' ect).

Oh yeah, and lag IS an issue. .

Lag is an issue, just not with wireless mice. If it really is, please, prove it .

It is an added layer of needless .

I wouldn't use the word needless

complexity and doubt, has nothing to do with nearby microwave ovens it's inherent to the coding and transcoding of the input signal. .

A lot of technical jargon which hasn't supported your position thus far, but perhaps if I kept reading and not interrupting your written train of thought, you might get somewhere with this.

You can get reduced lag but only by paying MUCH MORE for still less performance than a wired mouse and still the battery drain is faster .

Faster? Good god, I should hope so, if a wired mouse had a battery issue there'd be a serious question you'd need to ask, oh sorry, I did it again didn't I? As you were saying...

as the signal interval is shorter.

With two wireless mouse .

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I used, one I ALWAYS forgot to put in its charging cradle to come back and find it dead. .

G7 and RAT 9 don't have this problem, see previous post, but continue...

snipped. And with the one using AA batteries I looked at the cost in 6 months I had spent to price of an entire new mouse..

Yes yes yes, wireless with non-rechargeable batteries is as smart as hacking off your own foot with a tooth pick, 'next'.

Yes you can use a wireless mosue for gaming but:
-have to pay more for acceptable lag
-still have to tolerate some level of lag.

Both yet to be proven, but I'm vigilant, I'm going to read this post to the end!

-deal with bullshit of charging
-The cost burden feeding it AA batteries.

What's bullshit sir, is claiming all wireless mice require AA batteries, that point is discounted. Furthermore so is the alleged 'bullshit' of recharging, its only bullshit if you have a single battery, and can't swap said battery in an instant, so again, discounted.

-lower-lag models eat up juice quicker
-more driver/connection issues

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Ok, last point, discounted, you can't claim they ALL have driver issues, that's ridiculous, I've never had any driver issues with my mouse, and I hardly believe you have proof of a study someone's conducted, regarding customer satisfaction of wireless vs. wired gaming mice, which would prove for you, that wireless mice on average had more driver issues. Please, stick to statements that you can prove.

All to eliminate a little wire coming out the front? It's not worth it. To me at least.

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Thank you, finally an opinion. You're perfectly entitled to lick wired over wireless, but claiming they are worse for the reasons you gave, is false.

When I started out gaming, wireless mouse lag didn't affect me. But after I got better it really started to get in the way..

Prove...It...Please...

Wireless might be worth it on Vidya consoles considering the living room layout (distance, people wandering) but not on a desktop PC.

...In your opinion.

Look, I'm not going to suggest for a moment, that if any were to have lag issues wireless would be just as immune as wired, but the facts so far, do not support that there is any real lag in a wireless gaming mouse, that an equivalent wired one doesn't have. And let's assume for a moment that this could somehow be A. Proven and thus B. a market consensus, 'wireless mice cause lag, so they don't work for gaming quality mice'; explain to me by Mad Catz, Logitech, and Razer all currently market wireless gaming mice, successfully(from the top of my head, I'm sure there's more)? Could it be, that there's noticeable lag, that these tens of thousands of people simply aren't noticing?

So, wireless mice, the so far 'false' stigma that they cause lag, I say, ignore the rumour mill, next time get wireless.

 

[Treblaine]

Ok, ok, yes, corded mice do not cause trips, or 'usually' distance issues, but I love having my mouse available to move away from my desk (like, when I'm watching movies in my bed across from the screen, I don't need to get up just to click 'next' or 'pause/play' ect).


Lag is an issue, just not with wireless mice. If it really is, please, prove it .

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A lot of technical jargon which hasn't supported your position thus far, but perhaps if I kept reading and not interrupting your written train of thought, you might get somewhere with this.

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Faster? Good god, I should hope so, if a wired mouse had a battery issue there'd be a serious question you'd need to ask, oh sorry, I did it again didn't I? As you were saying...

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G7 and RAT 9 don't have this problem, see previous post, but continue...



What's bullshit sir, is claiming all wireless mice require AA batteries, that point is discounted. Furthermore so is the alleged 'bullshit' of recharging, its only bullshit if you have a single battery, and can't swap said battery in an instant, so again, discounted.
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Ok, last point, discounted, you can't claim they ALL have driver issues, that's ridiculous, I've never had any driver issues with my mouse, and I hardly believe you have proof of a study someone's conducted, regarding customer satisfaction of wireless vs. wired gaming mice, which would prove for you, that wireless mice on average had more driver issues. Please, stick to statements that you can prove.

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Thank you, finally an opinion. You're perfectly entitled to lick wired over wireless, but claiming they are worse for the reasons you gave, is false.

When I started out gaming, wireless mouse lag didn't affect me. But after I got better it really started to get in the way..

Prove...It...Please...

A HEM! I am recounting a personal experience. Sorry but how do I prove a memory from when I was 15 years old?

Look, I'm not going to suggest for a moment, that if any were to have lag issues wireless would be just as immune as wired, but the facts so far, do not support that there is any real lag in a wireless gaming mouse, that an equivalent wired one doesn't have. And let's assume for a moment that this could somehow be A. Proven and thus B. a market consensus, 'wireless mice cause lag, so they don't work for gaming quality mice'; explain to me by Mad Catz, Logitech, and Razer all currently market wireless gaming mice, successfully(from the top of my head, I'm sure there's more)? Could it be, that there's noticeable lag, that these tens of thousands of people simply aren't noticing?

So, wireless mice, the so far 'false' stigma that they cause lag, I say, ignore the rumour mill, next time get wireless.

"explain to me by Mad Catz, Logitech, and Razer all currently market wireless gaming mice"

Because people are suckers for features? Wireless, cha-ching!

I'd get a mouse best suited for it's main use, that would be at a desk. If I'd only click pause/play occasionally from the bed then I'd get a cheap media-remote or ultra-cheap n' laggy wireless mouse just for that basic minority task.

Lag is consensus, sorry I can't find any scientific tests but this wasn't decided because of laboratory tests, an effect you can only see in a test is irrelevant. The point is it became a market consensus from actual practical application, so many people saw such an improvement there doesn't seem to be any study into this.

I'm not saying ALL wireless mouse have driver issues, just that it is a worry and there is no way a wired USB mouse can give you problems. Just plug it in and go.

Multiple battery packs? This is all getting very complicated and is no doubt coming at an added expense. And batteries don't last forever, they'll need replacing before my USB mouse needs anything.

If you actually PLAYED games with a large well trodden pathway between you and your PC then wireless makes sense, but otherwise it is a trivial complexity. Like having wireless power of a machine that sits RIGHT NEXT to a wall power socket.

 

[Conza]

...people are suckers for features? Wireless, cha-ching!

Incorrect. The correct answer, is wireless mice are superior... thanks for playing...

I'd get a mouse best suited for it's main use, that would be at a desk.

Incorrect. Mice are not only suited for desks.

If I'd only click pause/play occasionally from the bed then I'd get a cheap media-remote or ultra-cheap n' laggy wireless mouse just for that basic minority task.

Incorrect again. It is much more cost effective to get a singular device that does everything, rather than two devices that do two seperate things.

Lag is consensus,

Incorrect. You have not provided basis for a consensus. There are rumours, probably made by the ignorant and the poor, to persuade people that corded is better, using this as the basis for this fallacy.

sorry I can't find any scientific tests but this wasn't decided because of laboratory tests, an effect you can only see in a test is irrelevant.

Incorrect. Proper equal environment, equal condition tests, with recorded results would be the only, way, to prove your alleged theories so far

The point is it became a market consensus

Incorrect. It is once again, only a rumour, as you haven't provided sufficient evidence.

from actual practical application, so many people saw such an improvement there doesn't seem to be any study into this.

I'm not saying ALL wireless mouse have driver issues, just that it is a worry and there is no way a wired USB mouse can give you problems.

Incorrect. Many wired mouses also require drivers, you can't testify that every wired mouse ever created doesn't require a proper driver to achieve full functionality. It'd be like expecting a graphics card to perform optimally with only Windows generic PnP drivers.

Just plug it in and go.

Multiple battery packs? This is all getting very complicated

Incorrect. Unless you have a mental defficiency, I very much doubt it would be too complicated for you to push a couple of buttons and slide in and out a couple of batteries

and is no doubt coming at an added expense. And batteries don't last forever, they'll need replacing before my USB mouse needs anything.

For the first time this reply, you're actually on to something. Unfortunately however, the life of the battery, with intended use, will outlive the life of the mouse.

If you actually PLAYED games with a large well trodden pathway between you and your PC then wireless makes sense, but otherwise it is a trivial complexity.

Incorrect. It removes complexity and issues associated with being limited by a wire.

Like having wireless power of a machine that sits RIGHT NEXT to a wall power socket.

 

[Strazdas]

simple logitech 3 euros worth wired mouse. you know why? because it works as good as any other, and its cheaper. all the fancy name "gaming" mouses are nothing but smokescreen.

Unfortunately however, the life of the battery, with intended use, will outlive the life of the mouse.

Sorry, but you are the one incorrect here. I had a wireless mouse "for testing". changing batteries every other day, really costs A LOT. maybe if you use it 1 hour a day it will last you forever, but when you have to use it 12-16 hours a day it wont be cheap.

 

[Plinglebob]

Just the standard one that came with my compy, never really felt the need for anything different

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I have that one at work.

At home I use a Logitech Wireless. I prefer wired, but I have big hands and the Logitech mouse was the only one with thumb buttons I found comfortable.

 

[onewheeled]

I use the standard black and silver Dell mouse that came with my computer. It has yet to let me down in about four years.