Poll: To make a God.

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BiscuitTrouser

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Not sure if this belongs in religion and politics. Fairly sure it does not.

Pretty much your standard ethical conundrum here. Imagine by some means (technology, ritual, alien tech assistance ect... think Dr Manhattan) we could turn ONE human being into a god. A real God with all the perks of infinite power and knowledge. However they would retain their personality and thoughts. This would mean that disease would be instantly wiped out, hunger solves, disasters fixed instantly and prevented and the world would cease to suffer. However after this we would be left with a very human thinking very bored God who would, for all intents and purposes, have nothing left to do. Now remember this person is a god, they cannot be controlled or won over easily, they have infinite power with no boundaries on what they can do.

For some reason you are chosen to decide if this should be done, and if so, who on (don't need a specific name, just an idea, also cant be you - you are chosen as an impartial judge). Perhaps a way to select one person? Would it be worth risking the gift of absolute cosmic power for eternal peace and no more strife? Maybe the chosen person might end this. Perhaps they would make everyone immortal, or make poor short sighted decisions with their God hood. Maybe not. Is it worth it? Would you say yes to this happening?

Another question. Many say "why not me"? Good question.

Would you abuse the power? No? Then why do you assume someone else would. Are you the only non corrupt person in the world? Would you expect others to see yourself as you do?

My thoughts:

Those who would want it the least would use it the best, but to force it on someone would be wrong, and they would be bitter because of it, doing right but living a cursed and miserable life. Its a paradox.

drakan4o said:
I think that if a god is omniscient, as in 'he knows everything' that means that whoever you choose will become the same person after the process: a person who is everyone at the same time. It doesnt matter if you choose a thief or a genius in the end he or she will be the same person with the same knowledge and way of thinking, Imagine that a bad person is the left part of a half and a good person is the right half. Omniscience will mean that you are 'both halves' at the same time, or should I say 'every half that exists' at the same time!
I found this a very interesting view point. Does omniscience cause your personality to be swallowed in what has to be the largest extrapolation of logic, faith, facts, fiction and the way the universe is all at once to determine the true and right nature of everything. Would this sudden burst of knowledge make everyone the same? Give them objectiveness on a level that spans an entire world leaving no room for corruption?
 

GaiusD

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First off, interesting scenario

For argument's sake, I'll agree that we should do it. As to who, would that really matter? Anyone, child or elder, saint or crook, no matter their personality or creed would be utterly changed just by having omniscience thrust upon them. (I'm assuming belief in causality from here on) They would know every event and every cause and effect from each and every action. The person would be infinity empathetic to every other living organism and would be in complete understanding of all physical and metaphysical phenomenon. If someone did know that, wouldn't you trust them to do the right thing? A single individual's suffering would be their own; now multiply that by the number of organisms in the given universe and that's a pretty heavy incentive to play nice.

In fact, would they really have any freedom to act as they chose? Wouldn't they know what they would do as soon as obtained omniscience? If nothing else, they could create an alternate universe and create another sandbox with which to exercise his or her will. (This is also assuming that, at the bestowal of their godhood, they weren't the original deity who created the universe in the first place, but this gets into perceptions of time that would really extend this question.)

Sorry for rambling, but, again, interesting question.
 

Vhite

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Nope, sooner or later he/she would get bored and suddenly there would be lot of deleted toilets and pool ladders.
 

Not-here-anymore

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Yes, but I'd also take the slightly dick-headed route of making sure I was the god-like one. And then shut myself off from the omniscience thing.

Would anyone really trust anyone but themselves with that level of power? Well, nor would I. And at some point this new god figure would have to make some incredibly unpopular choices regarding various global conflicts, disasters, and famines. Do they intervene? What side do they take? How do they subsequently justify that? I'd be uncomfortable putting someone else in that position, and quite happy to make the choices myself.
Though realistically, I'd wait 50 years or so, fake my own death, and then influence things a little more privately. God-hood and accountability would be a terrible mix.

EDIT: Stupid rules. Fine. I'd pick a good friend and/or someone I had some leverage over. Someone who has no political/ethical leanings and who I can thus influence, or who already has similar views to my own. Having the ability to 'make everything better instantly' would be incredibly worthwhile. Once everything is at an acceptable level of 'everyone is happy now', I'd want some level of control over the power cosmic.
 

Avaholic03

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No. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But if something like this does go down, I'd like to volunteer. I think I could do absolute corruption right :D
 

Jonluw

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I clicked 'no', but changed my mind right after the fact.

I figured a perfect world wouldn't realistically be as nice as one might think (diseases have their purposes), but then I remembered we are talking about an omnipotent god here, so realism doesn't factor in to it.

Count me as a yes instead.
 

aPod

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Cutoid said:
Do it to Richard Dawkins :)
Ha, i was just watching southpark last night. The Universal Athiest Alliance.

Anyways, I don't believe it is possible to retain your personality with infinite power and knowledge. One or the other would strangle the you out of who you are. I know you want to be hypothetical but just think about the way you are now and think about the way you were 10 years ago. Ten years of knowledge, limited as it is, has evolved your consciousness and your view on everything. Now try to imagine what knowing everything and about everything ever in every way possible.

Well, there you have it my opinion.
 

Radeonx

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Well, I'm already here, and since I'm the "godiest" god that could ever be, I'd say sure.
I'd just destroy the other god with my ridiculous amount of awesome ever.
 

The Virgo

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Only if I could be God. I would be the "fire and brimstone, smiting people with lightning" kind of angry God.

And if people disagreed with my policies, like bending the laws of nature and whatnot, I would kill them and their families.

... BUT at least everything would be in order in about a week.
 

Phlakes

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I'd choose one of my closest friends, and then have them give me the same power.

And if one of us makes a mistake, it's not like we can't just go back and change it.
 

GigaHz

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Vhite said:
Nope, sooner or later he/she would get bored and suddenly there would be lot of deleted toilets and pool ladders.
Haha! Yes! The God will eventually develop a severe case of 'Bored with Sims Syndrome'.

But yeah, I also agree. A man-made God of any fashion seems like a terrible idea. How do we judge who is worthy of the responsibility? How can we ensure that their actions would benefit all of existence? How do we stop them if they decide to go turncoat on us and wipe us out?

Seems like too many dangerous 'what if?' questions for my taste.
 

Kpt._Rob

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Nope, sounds like a bad plan to me. One of those things that could never work out in reality as it did in theory. The strain of something like that one a human mind would probably result in insanity. Just think about the kind of dissociated state Dr. Manhattan ended up in, and he didn't just have that power thrust upon him, he actually contributed to its making. To suddenly have that kind of knowledge and power, the way it would cause one to relate to the world would be so overwhelmingly painful that I don't think anyone could maintain their sanity.

If someone had thrust such a responsibility upon me, I would probably use that power to either dissolve my own consciousness or cause myself to forget that I had the power in the first place, so that it could only manifest subconsciously.