Al Gore straight up won the popular vote. The ever outdated Electoral College put Bush 2 in office.iain62a said:
Poll: Tony Blair as 'EU President'? Has the world gone mad?!?
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I think that having Blair as EU president would very good from a British perspective as it would mean that Britain would have someone with an interest in the country in power for once. Despite what has been said by some already I think that Blair was a pretty decent PM (especially compared to Brown) , it's just a shame that the only thing he will be remembered for by most people is the Iraq war.
And why I think he's corrupt (or maybe I just chose the wrong word). His government is, eventually, why we ended up with the current situation. I never said Brown was better at managing the country, but he inherited a lot of things from Blair. I have a feeling that he spent a LOT on his expenses whilst in government, seeing that he had all of them destroyed. He was dragged along by Bush into a war no-one wanted (maybe not corruption but still).
He seemed to be able to talk his way out of anything, either laying the blame with others or simply claiming that somehow there is nothing to blame about (when there was). Whether this is actually true is another matter, but, to me, he seemed to be able to slip out of anything (except the Iraq War, which is probably why he's remembered for it.)
I can see everyone's point about the poll, it was kind of just tacked on at the end. Glares liquid hatred was actually directed at myself not Blair.
He seemed to be able to talk his way out of anything, either laying the blame with others or simply claiming that somehow there is nothing to blame about (when there was). Whether this is actually true is another matter, but, to me, he seemed to be able to slip out of anything (except the Iraq War, which is probably why he's remembered for it.)
I can see everyone's point about the poll, it was kind of just tacked on at the end. Glares liquid hatred was actually directed at myself not Blair.
I think Tony Blair would make a capable EU president- he is a skilled, and manipulative politican (tbh, i think Gordon Brown may have taken a few leaves from his book, looking at how he survived Labours attempt to get rid of him) Hes internationally well known- i dont agree with what he did (The Iraq War) and politically he is baisically labours version of Margret Thatcher- just more subtle.
I'm also in favour of an elected European president- its more democratic. The current President of the EU is the President (or pm. i dont know) of Sweden. Before that Czechsloviakia's president was in charge, and before that Sarcozy of France. So, the people of Europe do not have any say in who is in charge.
If elected, i think Tony Blairs first priority should be to cut back on unnessary leglisation and beauracracy, and get another treaty passed through the EU parliment which draws a clear line between the powers of the EU and the powers of it's individual states. Hopefully this would set Europe on a firm foundation- and put to rest some of the fears of the British and other EU skeptic countries.
I'm also in favour of an elected European president- its more democratic. The current President of the EU is the President (or pm. i dont know) of Sweden. Before that Czechsloviakia's president was in charge, and before that Sarcozy of France. So, the people of Europe do not have any say in who is in charge.
If elected, i think Tony Blairs first priority should be to cut back on unnessary leglisation and beauracracy, and get another treaty passed through the EU parliment which draws a clear line between the powers of the EU and the powers of it's individual states. Hopefully this would set Europe on a firm foundation- and put to rest some of the fears of the British and other EU skeptic countries.
the way he sucked bush's dick was kind of the "i don't respect this guy anymore" moment for me ......................... but really ... ah fuck here comes the contradiction ... every ideal of his .. i 100% agree with .. him for EU prez ... i don't know enough to even be qualified to form an opinion .. but from what i know now ... the unqualified opinion is yesCpt_Oblivious said:
Very nice post, and welcome to the Escapist. Good to have some actual explanation on this post rather than simple "back off brussels!" or "argh, Blair" reactions.petrolinus said:
While I agree with your assessment of why Europe would reject Blair (though frankly you could have stopped at his nationality), I do think he would make a very good President. Mainly is his charisma, there's nothing worse that a drab leader, it makes sound policies flounder for lack of interest (yes, you Ban Ki-Moon). Blair would provide a political nexus that could bring the EU into a greater international position.
Secondly, this (sort of):
He's high profile enough to actually get through to people directly. The EU is corrupt because no one scrutinises, no one scrutinises it through general lack of diplomatic involvement. More people being involved would hopefully shed more light onto the workings of the system and clean it up a little. With more scrutiny, people would become better able to trust the EU more, and so scepticism would be reduced.Nickolai77 said:
As an aside I don't think Blair would be the man to define powers between countries better. He is an individual that craves attention, and thrives off publicity. He was a fiercely independent leader as PM as that served his needs, and focussed power onto him. National independence (RE foreign policy) was largely a bi-product of this. As EU pres he would likely advocate greater EU control, centralising not out of ideology, but simply as it makes him the fulcrum of power yet again.
And there for the grace of mixed metaphors go I.
You're not sorry at all, you filthy liar.dwightsteel said:
And anywho, how about a "I don't have a clue" option?
From this point forth, if anyone states on the news that 'the UK' has done or said something, chances are we havent.........the corrupt and spineless cunts supposedly running this country (into the ground) have. Citizens of the UK have no voice, we may as well scream in an airless vacuum for all the good it'll do.
Ah well, at least there's one bit of good news today, Cherie Blair has swine flu, with any luck it'll kill her.
Ah well, at least there's one bit of good news today, Cherie Blair has swine flu, with any luck it'll kill her.
