Poll: Tourists on Death Row

[Alpha Centauri]

I got a issue to present to you. You are the leader of a Nation and this happens

A group of holidaymakers from Your Country have been arrested while visiting the scenic, yet corrupt and totalitarian, nation of [insert name here] on charges of drug trafficking - an offence which carries the maximum sentence of the death penalty. The story has provoked outrage from citizens, many believing the government should intervene to bring the tourists back home.

What do you do?

1) Nothing, it was their job to know the laws of a Country they were going into and they should of known better.

2) Diplomacy, Work with the government of the other nation, to see that you citizens are brought home, probaly won't work, but you can say you tried.

3) Diplomacy 2, offer a 'You scratch our back now, we'll scratch yours latter deal' most likely will work.

4) Threaten Invaision, say that if your citizens are killed, it will mean war.

5) Other.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I know the US will work to get you back, but if you do something serious like that, tehy'll say screw it. or try to get you tried in the US and usually a lighter sentence (like life). But no matter where you go, the US always says that you're supposed to know the rules, and tehy will leave you if it saves more lives.

So I dont know. i would certainly save option 3 for a higher caliber prisoner (maybe a head of state or something important to the country that we would hate to lose). I'd probably try to get them tried in my country for a lighter sentence. Depends how big the country is. if its some third world country, i'd definately do that, or jsut go in and say, 'hey, give them back, you dont want this shit".

 

[A Raging Emo]

I'd ship them back to their own country, and rely on their own home country to punish them accordingly.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

Diplomacy first, try a peaceful solution to the problem and if none can be found, I won't even threaten the war, I'd have men on standby to invade. We're doing the world a favour anyways by taking down a totalitarian government.

 

[Rawne1980]

I'd threaten invasion.

(It's not real people before you jump on me).

They want to arrest my citizens they better prepare to have thousands of angry granny's invade them all armed to the teeth with the latest, state of the art shopping bags and top range knitting patterns rolled up ready to beat some faces.

My granny army would conquer.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

I'd nuke them.

They can't put mah citizens on trial if they're all dead!

OT: Joking aside, if they're guilty, I'd try to get them a lesser sentence. If that does not work, I'll try to go with diplomacy 1.

I'm not going to put my neck on the line for criminals.

 

[FC Groningen]

Between 3 and 4. Europe as a whole has benefits to put pressure on said country to allow such prisoners to return to their own country to sit out their punishment. I remember it failed recently; An Iranian woman was executed in her home country on charges of treason I believe, while she was a known reporter on political and gender abuse and had the dutch nationality.

Obviously i would never have it come to an armed conflict of course. What Israel did for 2 soldiers really was ridiculous if you ask me.

 

[godofallu]

People that sell drugs should be killed so... nothing.

Besides you open up that can of worms over some random drug dealing asshole and you might be looking at much larger problems.

 

[Quinadin]

Diplomacy 1 first, Invasion second. I mean if they're holding my people who should be tried under my courts, they probably don't like my nation very much and if it's anything like the way I play Civ 5 I'll conquer two of their cities and call it quits with a white peace. If he says no... well, then I wipe his name from the history books. Mwahahahaha. Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

 

[USSR]

You don't go into a country and expect diplomatic immunity.

You want to traffic drugs in a foreign land, you can an enjoy an electric chair that you thoroughly deserve through your ignorance.

 

[Thaluikhain]

IF people commit a crime, they should expect to be prosecuted by the local authorities.

 

[mjc0961]

It depends: were they actually drug trafficking? If so, fuck them. They were stupid to go to a country like that to do illegal things, they can suffer the consequences. But if they're just tourists who are wrongly accused, I'd do #2 and if that didn't work, #4 if the offending country could be easily steamrolled.

I'd ship them back to their own country, and rely on their own home country to punish them accordingly.

Please read more carefully. You are the home country, and your citizens are stuck in another country.

 

[Sprinal]

WEll I would not truelly say war (although that is what I selected) but I would take a slightly less overt appoach. I would send an elite team (like the SASR) in to extract them and then say that it was a framed charge and it was a group of rogue public servants who were the ones who cuased the problem (and plant evidense if there was none there to prove it).

People out other country likes you more and your soldiers get some field practise.

Sounds like a win, win, win to me.

 

[dyre]

I'd try diplomacy, but I wouldn't try very hard. Drug trafficking is a serious crime, and deservedly so. Countries have been brought down from state-sponsored drug trafficking (opium in China)

 

[A Raging Emo]

It depends: were they actually drug trafficking? If so, fuck them. They were stupid to go to a country like that to do illegal things, they can suffer the consequences. But if they're just tourists who are wrongly accused, I'd do #2 and if that didn't work, #4 if the offending country could be easily steamrolled.

I'd ship them back to their own country, and rely on their own home country to punish them accordingly.

Please read more carefully. You are the home country, and your citizens are stuck in another country.

Sorry. 3AM. Also busy.

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[HalfTangible]

Depends on what, specifically, the drug was and how well the investigation was conducted.

Say, for instance, a country decided that caffeine was a drug.

 

[Treaos Serrare]

guilty or innocent, I'd send my best wetwork guys to the country, with heavy support to remove all authority figures and replace them with good obedient sheep who will do as told and be our bestest best friends forever(because i would nuke the ever loving fuck our of every nanometer of the place) and give my people their freedom and a nice stipend for the trouble

 

[WolfThomas]

If they are actually stupid enough to be smuggling drugs to a country that will exceute you, I have no pity. But the problem is if the system is corrupt enough to frame tourists, where that should be intervened with and then you have issues where every drug smuggler will claimed they were framed.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

THIS is why you triple check the harsher laws before visiting a country (IE, if you're homosexual, for goodness sake, don't go to iran!). Or better yet, avoid going to places like that period. I don't care if it's scenic! If it's ruled by a nutjob tyrant, !@#$ it, I want nothing to do with the place!

I would use diplomacy to try to bring them home. I would also demand access to all the evidence they gathered so we cna properly asses their guilt/prosecute them ourselves. And when they got home, I'd probably ensure they get life in jail (and if they complained, I'd tell them "Hey, if I didn't bail you out, you'd be DEAD. Be grateful you're still alive").

If they were framed, I'd let them go (duh) but bar them from ever getting going near that country again.

And if it turns out the people were actually doing serious smuggling (not just carrying around recreational amounts) and/or were part of a large smuggling ring.......I might actually leave them there. They would obviously have knows what they were getting into, and chose to do so regardless.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Conversely, if a foreigner commits a crimes in your nation, is it alright for their nation to kick up a fuss and/or invade you?