Poll: "Uniforms" in public school

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Naeo

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As long as it doesn't create an unnecessary financial burden (or as long as they make appropriate arrangements in the case that it does so as to make it fair for everyone) then the school should be allowed to do that. But really, at that point, it really is a uniform since you seem to be allowed basically no real deviation aside from, like, "long sleeves".
 

Klopy

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Well... I think they put in uniform dress codes so everyone is 'equal' and there aren't any gangs. It's the only use I can see in uniforms.
 

GodofCider

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Benmonkey7 said:
I'm against public school uniforms, but for dress codes that prohibit "revealing" clothing. Your schools dress code is very strict though. Ouch.
Agreed.
 

knhirt

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I wish the schools around here had compulsory uniforms. I love the idea of uniforms.

Individuality is in what you think, say and do. The color of your pants doesn't say a thing about you.
 

-Samurai-

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That's near identical to my work uniform. Better get used to it. Most work placed will have you wear something similar.
 

Tim_Buoy

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Space Spoons said:
To be honest, I don't think it's that big of a deal. You're going to school to learn, not to make some kind of fashion statement.
well to be fair dress code often gets in the way of learning my 10th grade algebra teacher would stop class completely to tell someone to get into dress code she would spend 10 -20 minutes arguing with that student and in a 45 minute class thats half of the time gone
 

Eisenfaust

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we had something similar... (k-10 at least, 11-12 was far more relaxed) except we also had the "ponytail for girls, shirt hair that CANNOT touch the collar for boys" etc, etc... we all also had rediculous hats
 

Guitarmasterx7

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The fuck? Ok i can understand dress code to the point of "No coming to school looking like you're in a porno movie and no offensive shirts" and I could even understand a full on dress code at some condescendingly prestigious private or catholic school, but at a standard public school? What is the point? I think the parents should get together and complain, because as you said, that means they have to buy more clothes for their kids, and on top of that, there's no reason for rules like "khaki pants only" and "no brand logos"
 

Cazza

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I'm all for uniforms in schools. They should have just made a uniform it would be easier.

No hats allowed

Thats ones got me. I can understand no cap etc. If thats what it means but thats not a very sun safe idea. Unless you get like zero UV light over there.

Are you allowed broad brim hats?
 

WOPR

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bruein said:
I feel a dress code should be in order; but not an out and out uniform, espcially when they don't make kakis that can fit you belt or not... that are affordable to boot
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Stop whining. I guess you're from America *checks profile*, uhuh. Let me tell you something, every other country in the fucking world has uniforms. It's not about destroying individuality, it's to stop exclusion of students who can't afford nice clothes. Now do what you're fucking told or change schools.
 

Nouw

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Father Time said:
Nouw said:
Get used to it.
Why not try to fight it?
I already added a more in-depth answer in another reply but anyway fighting it is stupid. Why? Because posting an inquiry about it is the most you can do to to try and stop the behemoth known as school uniforms.

Ask that question to every single school rule.
 

Zyphonee

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It would be great if schools would set an obligatory, accessible and comfortable uniform for the students. I've been to a private school all of my life and they seemed to use uniforms as more of a sign of oppression than a practical rule. Instead, if uniforms are applied sensitively, it would make kids with a lower acquisitive power far less segregated. Clothing is in some way a mean of expression, but it's taken to such disgusting extremes of shallowness that I'd rather have kids wear uniforms to school instead of using frivolous garments as a way to mask their insecurities (Look at my avatar... oh irony)
 

TheLaofKazi

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Antitonic said:
Granted, it's a tricky issue. From my experience, schools would be a much better learning environment without the students.
*Bum-dum-tish*

The way I see it, uniforms are a socially acceptable form of conditioning for later life. One which I fail to see any big deal about. Then again, I've come through the system, so maybe it's the brainwashing at work?
I think it's absurd. But then again, I don't think school public school should be compulsory, in the highly idealistic sense that wouldn't be compatible with our current society. All of my opinions are absurd.

I wouldn't call it brainwashing, that's too hysterical, and the way it all works is far more subtle. We are all socially conditioned in some way, our perspectives are created by a variety of social and biological factors. I've never been forced to wear a certain type of clothing in or out of school, except for certain events. Marching band, weddings, funerals, ect. and in those cases, I certainly don't object to wearing that type of clothing. Why? That's the social conditioning. I know it would be considered disrespectful to other people if I, for example, wore a clown costume to someone's funeral and shouted "Wa-zooks! what a fun-eral!"

But take someone from a tribal community, where there is no marching band, and their weddings and funerals are completely different, and he will probably have a similar objection to those things as I have to school uniforms.

There are so many things that we look at as just "common sense" because we're used to it. And it's not until we take a step back that we realize what we're actually doing, and how grossly illogical many of our assumptions are, and how many of them can actually be harmful to people.

I mean, think about it. For the first 12 years of their life, our society forces children to spend a major percentage of their life at school, which are designed, in many ways, like factories, because the original purpose of them was to produce factory workers, to produce the next working generation. Our schools are no different today, their purpose is to produce what the current working world demands, which, in the grand scheme of things, is obedient, skilled workers. Essentially what schools do is fulfill what the working, corporate world wants.

Am I the only one that sees that as completely fucked up, even immoral? Instead of pursuing an approach with the goal in mind of developing people to their full capacity, so they can achieve happiness and fulfillment, something based on psychology, sociology, biology, and basically everything else we know about how humans work, we are listening to corporations and businesses. I think it should be the other way around.

So, apply that my perspective to school uniforms: In short, fuck what the working, corporate world wants, they don't know what's best for the world. I say instead we design a school system based on what humanism instead.
 

TheLaofKazi

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Zyphonee said:
It would be great if schools would set an obligatory, accessible and comfortable uniform for the students. I've been to a private school all of my life and they seemed to use uniforms as more of a sign of oppression than a practical rule. Instead, if uniforms are applied sensitively, it would make kids with a lower acquisitive power far less segregated. Clothing is in some way a mean of expression, but it's taken to such disgusting extremes of shallowness that I'd rather have kids wear uniforms to school instead of using frivolous garments as a way to mask their insecurities (Look at my avatar... oh irony)
Forcing students to wear a uniform won't get rid of that shallowness, social tension, insecureness, and generally other shit traits of people. All of it will do is cover up that particular medium for expressing it.

Trust me, students will find another way to be shallow, violent and insecure assholes. If that's the issue, and it is, then the focus should be on those core issues, not the way it's expressed.