Poll: Valve's Big Surprise: What do you want it to be

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Phlakes

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I want them to announce HL2: Ep. 3 and a new engine that they will use for Half-Life 3.

If they try to make Ep. 3 into HL 3, people will die.
 

Reep

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AjimboB said:
I want a new game engine. The source engine has really been showing its age lately, and I would like a new engine before I want episode 3 to be released. Episode 3 is the touted climax of the series, and has been hyped to such a ridiculous degree, that I don't think the current Source engine an create all of the awesomeness that all of the fans expect.

Similarly with Left4Dead 3, unless they change up the formula for the game, with a new engine, capable of making more radical changes the to gameplay, I don't think an announcement is particularly likely. I just can't see Valve going with the exact same formula for 3 games, and they should know that using the same formula would make Left4Dead 3 stale after a month. Left4dead 3 would need radical changes in order to continue being interesting.

I also can't see them announcing DLC over a game, so the announcement of Left4Dead DLC is out as the major surprise. They would never bump Portal 2 just to announce some DLC.

The most logical choice in that case would be a new game engine, and this is what I'm hoping for the most. The source engine is pretty old, and while it has held out extremely well over the years, it has gone as far as it can. A new engine would be huge news, big enough to bump Portal 2.
Didnt they make an update or improve the source engine for L4D2? I know they improved it over L4D1 which i think was a better version of Source over the CSS and HL2 version.
 

poet_lawreate

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I want something for TF2, but definitely not TF3. That would just confuse everyone whose very lives are held together by TF2. It's the kind of game we can all keep playing for decades if they keep polishing it. So, shinies for TF2, and if you'd be so kind, let the L4D franchise rest. They're good enough games for us to get into without you confusing us with another. I love 1, but can't play it because it confuses me- 'I want to play zombies... but I should play 2, because it's newer...'.

Oh, and Episode 3. Not that you're ever going to make it, you rats.
 

Pandora92

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Reep said:
AjimboB said:
I want a new game engine. The source engine has really been showing its age lately, and I would like a new engine before I want episode 3 to be released. Episode 3 is the touted climax of the series, and has been hyped to such a ridiculous degree, that I don't think the current Source engine an create all of the awesomeness that all of the fans expect.

Similarly with Left4Dead 3, unless they change up the formula for the game, with a new engine, capable of making more radical changes the to gameplay, I don't think an announcement is particularly likely. I just can't see Valve going with the exact same formula for 3 games, and they should know that using the same formula would make Left4Dead 3 stale after a month. Left4dead 3 would need radical changes in order to continue being interesting.

I also can't see them announcing DLC over a game, so the announcement of Left4Dead DLC is out as the major surprise. They would never bump Portal 2 just to announce some DLC.

The most logical choice in that case would be a new game engine, and this is what I'm hoping for the most. The source engine is pretty old, and while it has held out extremely well over the years, it has gone as far as it can. A new engine would be huge news, big enough to bump Portal 2.
Didnt they make an update or improve the source engine for L4D2? I know they improved it over L4D1 which i think was a better version of Source over the CSS and HL2 version.
With each major game release there has been a tweaked version of the engine with better visuals and more things added, originally the split was (I'm not counting the slight changes made when Episode 1 was released because it's a lot easier if I don't):

The "Source/Episode 1" Engine: CS:S, DOD:S, Half-life 2, Episode 1

The "Orange Box" Engine: TF2, Portal, Episode 2

The "L4D1" Engine: L4D1

The "L4D2" engine: L4D2

However since then they ported DOD:S onto the Orange Box engine a while ago, and continued to update the TF2 and DOD:S engine without changing the Portal or Episode 2 engine. Recently with the release of Steam for Mac there has been some major re-shuffling, HL2 and Ep1 were ported onto the Ep2 Engine, and CS:S currently has a beta going for porting it to the OB engine, the main reason for these changes were so that Valve only had to port the OB engine and higher onto the Mac instead of also having to port the Ep1 engine, which could have caused some issues, after the reshuffling it (as far as I'm aware) currently looks like this:

Source engine 2006: CS:S

Source engine 2007: HL2, Ep1, Ep2 (and I would have thought Portal would also be under this list but for some reason Source SDK shows it as being under the later version)

Source engine 2009: TF2, Portal, DOD:S, CS:S Beta

The L4D games kept their respective engines. The reason HL2 and Ep1 are still shown in the 2006 section of Source SDK is (AFAIK) it hasn't been updated to change them yet. I could be wrong about this but that's my current understanding of it, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not sure if Portal 2 will run using the L4D2 engine (being the latest and best looking actual build), an updated version of the L4D2 engine, an updated version of the Source 2009 engine, or an entirely new build of the engine altogether, we'll have to wait and see.

Also I just saw this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101146-Gabe-Newell-Valve-E3-Surprise-Isnt-Episode-3

and died a little inside. =/
 

Jamash

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That after years of painstaking secret development, they're releasing a Steam client and back catalogue of games for Linux which is compatible with the PS3.
 

SomeBritishDude

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It won't been episode 3. That's been confirmed. The Gabe could just be fucking with us and it's in fact Half Life 3.

But personally I'd rather see something completely new. I'm tired of sequels, let's see something creative and new for a change.
 

Billion Backs

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Half-life: The Strategy Game.

Play as either combine or the resistance! Reclaim city blocks and bombard populated areas with head crab rockets! Conscript the people you find in city blocks as either, well, uncontrollable zombies, or turn them into combine transhumans, or have them join your glorious war for freeing the Earth from alien overlords!

Wow, that actually sounds pretty cool if not very likely. It'd make a pretty cool strategy game slightly similar to WH40K in sense that controlling city blocks would be the only way to get resources - there wouldn't be some kind of a generic mining/tree cutting/whatever for your workers to do.
 

Ekonk

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Billion Backs said:
Half-life: The Strategy Game.

Play as either combine or the resistance! Reclaim city blocks and bombard populated areas with head crab rockets! Conscript the people you find in city blocks as either, well, uncontrollable zombies, or turn them into combine transhumans, or have them join your glorious war for freeing the Earth from alien overlords!

Wow, that actually sounds pretty cool if not very likely. It'd make a pretty cool strategy game slightly similar to WH40K in sense that controlling city blocks would be the only way to get resources - there wouldn't be some kind of a generic mining/tree cutting/whatever for your workers to do.
You might want to check out the Half-Life 2 mod "Half-Life: Wars".

SinisterSpud said:
Ekonk said:
Oh god, Episode 3. Let it be so.
Please valve! we beg you!
Apparently, Gabe said himself that it isn't going to be Episode 3.
:(


FAN RAGE
 

JourneyThroughHell

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You, guys, will probably hate me for this but I really want more Left 4 Dead.
I enjoyed both games immensely and love coop more than any other type of game mode.
 

rpspartin

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Blasphemy I know but I didn't think of HL2 as the second coming of the fps revolution everyone else did. When it comes to valve's games sure they are good but the word over-hyped is a good word here. Maybe a new engine or the ability to have all steam games a cloud service? No installing on hard drive and no graphic requirement? Sign me up!
 

Random Argument Man

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I would say a brand new game or my personnal hope: TF2 free on Mac.

Note* The latter will only be a dream. The free part that is.
 

TsunamiWombat

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Miumaru said:
Trivun said:
Miumaru said:
Based on the letter that spoke of there being one and it not being Portal 2, Im thinking something...Portal related. Soley for the Glados style of the letter.
It could be a double bluff. The events of Portal, and the universe Portal takes place in, have been confirmed as being canon to the story and universe of Half Life, with Black Mesa and Aperture Science as rival companies. So the Glados style of the letter does sort of back up the Episode Three theory.
Think of the false promises from portal...though on that note it could always be nothing and they lied...like an overused reference.
The trilogy is a lie?
 

Pandora92

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rpspartin said:
or the ability to have all steam games a cloud service? No installing on hard drive and no graphic requirement? Sign me up!
God no, if that ever happened I would probably just stop using Steam altogether (unless it was optional), not only is that EXTREMELY unlikely, but if it ever happened it would suffer from exactly the same problems that make me extremely doubtful of OnLive.
 

Ben Jamin

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Left 4 Dead 3 set in Australia where the zombies come second to the environment in terms of danger.