Poll: Was Aliens vs. Predator good?

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Rorschach II

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Yeah I really liked the demo. People who think the marines suck...they don't.
Just make sure that you see anoy of the others before they see you, they have great fire power in comparison to Predator (limited firepower) and Aliens (NO firepower). They all have their strengths.

I probably won't buy it though. I will rent it and if I like it enough THEN I will buy it.
 

Nubbinsmustdie

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I want this game because iv played all of the aliens games avp,avp2,primal hunt even the crappy rts game they bought out for the ps2 i played but then again i shouldnt get my hope too high up.
 

Captain Pancake

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Not sure why people say the marines are outclassed, I've had almost all my wins as a marine. Nobody could touch me, seriously, I had an eleven kill spree at one point.
 

lonny2x4x5

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I'm not sure why people don't like the marines. I think that they are the easiest race to learn. Also they are extremely good with a shotgun. Aliens are alright, kinda gets confusing to me. And I havn't played as the predators enough to know what they are like.

But to your question, I think it is alright. Won't be award winning, but it is fun gameplay that gets addicting. So do whatever you want.
 

Deofuta

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Overall its ok, but it is flawed in some basic areas that will just piss you off. Bosses that are easily exploitable, AI that will have men cover on the incorrect side of the wall, Cliche campaign (not that this is bad for everyone, just some). Marine campaign starts great, but then you are in brightly lit temples and jungles and the scare factor dies away.

However, I love the multiplayer. Check out the different game modes, some of them truly rock!

My idea? Rent it. If you like the multiplayer, buy it afterwords.
 

Jadak

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Captain Pancake said:
Not sure why people say the marines are outclassed, I've had almost all my wins as a marine. Nobody could touch me, seriously, I had an eleven kill spree at one point.
It's just because nobody really remembers the times they got mowed down by a marine, their memory is focused on the moments where ripped one apart without a fight, and therefore they always feel that marines suck, despite even the slightly skilled ones always ending up decently on the rankings.
 

Malkavian

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Dr Grimoure said:
That is why you must have faith in the fans of this series! Trust me, I was playing AVP:2 a few days ago and the servers were packed full of people
I have a hard time believing this...
 

t.tocs

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Psychophante said:
Tried the MP demo, didn't really think much of it. Waiting to see if the SP is any good...
A lot of sites are saying that the MP is the one thing that's fun in the game. If you didn't like the MP, I'm going to say it's a safe bet you won't like the single player much either.
 

Uszi

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For me the most important criteria is this: is the game fun to play or not?

The answer to that question is, "Yes."

Now could I nitpick it? Yes, there's all sorts of stuff wrong that keeps it from being a "perfect" experience, if you want to think such a thing is possible. But do I still have a helluva time playing multiplayer? Yes.


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I think the races are actually pretty well balanced. The marines will own anything that makes the mistake of showing it's head. I've won several games as the marines, especially when I play with friends. The Marines especially excel in long straightaways, and when they can put their backs to the wall. The marines just take a little bit more teamwork than the other races -- it's really hard to dominate as a marine if you're running around by yourself.

Predators who aren't tactical are going to get owned. The predators are slow in melee combat, and they'll lose on outright firefight with marines if they don't score the first blow. Their advantage is that they're invisible and they do a shit ton of damage--so they're the Ninja's of the AvP universe.

Aliens are pretty fragile too, though it seems like the absorb more bullets than the preds do. I love the aliens who think they're going to kill me by running right at me though. Good aliens stick to the cielings, moving slowly so they're off motion detectors, and they own from above.

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Personally, I think the game is getting bad reviews because it's being compared too closely with "other shooters." Like I think the IGN review was bitching that you can't unluck perks or new weapons by ranking up in multiplayer.

But it isn't a straight up shooter--it definitely won't feel like one when you're playing as an alien or as a predator. So it shouldn't be set up in comparison next to the Call of Duties of the world.

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As far as the crappy reviews, first know that the game has received everything in between a 5.0 and a 8.5, and that user reviews tend to be much more favorable then the crappy reviewers at gamestop and IGN.

It has a 69 on Metacritic. And a 7.7 as far as user reviews go. [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/aliensvspredator?q=aliens%20vs%20predator]

Second, know that it's getting crappy reviews mostly because people were disappointed with the single player. I haven't gotten far enough in the campaigns to comment on that, but the multiplayer is universally considered the games saving grace even in crappy reviews.

Third, know that reviewers are full of shit. If you compare the professional reviews, which ***** about how it isn't enough like Call of Duty, to the user reviews, you'll find something starkly different. And no, there are not enough AvP fanboys to drag those ratings from 5.0's to the 8.0's where they now sit.

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The demo was shit. It gave you a taste. Making generalizations about the game from the demo would be like making generalizations of all cuts of beef when you were fed an appetizer of steak tartare. I would not complain about the game being crap based on a demo -- rent the full game before you make a judgment.

Matchmaking takes so long in the demo because no one else is playing the demo but you. The only gameplay mode in the demo is mixed species FFA, which is probably one of the least fun modes in the game. And the demo didn't offer much in the way of a tutorial to help you learn stuff.

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In summary, I reject the following criticisms:

-No unlocking of weapons or perks
What is this? Call of Duty?

-Races are unbalanced in team death match
No, you just don't know how to play your race, or you don't know how to counter the other race. Predators are easy to kill as marines because they're so damn slow. Watch for fuzzy motion blurs, watch for dust clouds when they super leap all over the place, use your motion detector. When in doubt, open fire. If you've played the campaigns and know each race inside out, and you still want to come to me and complain about how one is way more powerful in multiplayer, then I will talk to you.

Right now, I see no evidence to suggest that one race is way more powerful than the other.

-Matchmaking takes forever
I usually get in a game within 2 minutes. I guess I can't comment if you're in Europe or New Zealand or something, but I've had 0 issues with match making taking forever.

-Auto-aim! NOT PURE SHOOTER!
The auto-aim is very, very slight. All it does is ensure that if you were going to miss the alien by 1 inch, you instead are now facing it. It is not an "aim bot" that snaps your gun straight to the target---believe me, you will need to aim.

And you could probably complain *if* the game was *at all* similar to MW2 or Halo. As it is, you're shooting at enemies that are nearly invisible, or are jumping on top of you from the cieling, and if you don't kill them in 2-3 seconds they will one shot you when they get close enough. Trust me, you'll appreciate the slight help to your accuracy considering that you won't be fighting in a convential firefight that comes down to who is the most skilled at putting their cursor over the oponents head.

Finally, it seems to me that one would only complain about the auto-aim if it took skill out the equation for who wins what fight. And this is not the case: trust me, the better man/woman will consistently come out on top of newbs.

-The graphics suck!
The graphics are not top notch, but they're not that shitty either. They're also slightly stylized, if you haven't noticed--like a much subtler borderlands. Things tend to have outlines and the colors are off.

-The movies sucked!
Regrettably, this game borrows a little something here or there from the movies. However, the game stands more heavily on the foundation laid by the classic AvP games of the 90's. Which inspired the movies to begin with!
 

Uszi

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If I could make an observation:

As of now:

Combining the poll options "Yes," and "Incredible!" = 27 positive poll results.
Combining the poll options "No," and "God-awful" = 14 negative poll results.
With 21 "Eh's."

So you could say, and this might be a little liberal with the eh's, that 48 of the people disagreed with the reviews which regarded it as bad, meaning that 77% of the people here didn't find it THAT bad.

Or, you could ignore the "Eh's," in which case 66% of the people here liked it.

And the statistics could be even better if we could figure out that some of those 14 bad poll responses are based purely on the demo, in which case I would say it's fair to ignore them.

So there you have it. The Escapist generally likes AvP. Now go buy it!
 

Bruce Edwards

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Well, all I can say is that - whenever I was able to connect - the multiplayer demo of the new AVP was terrific. And I normally *HATE* multiplayer in FPS's, having gone so far as to never even bother with Multiplayer in MW2.

I have to admit I'm biased though, as I thoroughly enjoyed the 1999 original PC game, and was hoping they would simply do a high-gloss update and leave much of the game alone. Which, for better or worse, they have.

Given this, some of the things we may take for granted in FPS's are gone - no crouching, no iron sights - but IMHO it certainly doesn't hurt the deathmatch multiplayer.

I found the Marine to be by far the easiest to play, despite what others may say. The two tricks to remember are to keep away from small, enclosed spaces and abuse the motion scanner as much as you can. I suspect that the other races have similar simple n00b tricks that help with survivability. Overall I'm rather pleased with the balance - once myself and a couple of friends got used to our respective races, we found the kills levelled out about evenly.

My copy of the full game arrives tonight, I'll let you know what I think in a few days after I've had a chance to install it.

I'm seriously looking forward to Survivor multiplayer. Favourite game mode ever.
 

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Orcus_35 said:
i tried to play the multiplayer demo, when after 30 or 45 min i finally could join a server, with a lot of lag too... when i saw the gameplay i felt robbed even if it was a demo, the graphics made me puke! (even if i'm not judging by the graphics, a PS3, 360 game should have at least a decent graphic engine) the controls are simple so +1, the gameplay was meh, mostly because there were 4 predators 3 aliens and 1 marine... so matchs tend to get repetitive since you just shoot everything that moves... and if you don't move, you die.
the demo map wasn't ugly, but it was very small, and it looked pretty basic, like one of those random generated SOF2 maps... but worse.

ps: it's one of those games that you'll play 1 time and then forget in the shelf of time...
Firstly Predators were limited to only two in a game, so i'm not sure how you ended up with four. Secondly the graphics were fine although i conceed that could just be my opinion
 

Taerdin

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Its a terrible movie, you never really care about the characters and the entire plot has almost no point and goes nowhere. Basically its just a gigantic fanservice for people who were like "hey I wonder what it would be like if the aliens and predators fought! OMG!!!"

I would highly recommend avoiding it.

OT: The game had severe performance issues on my system somehow so I avoided it like the plague.
 

Snotnarok

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The multiplayer is shit, terribly unbalanced an the level design is very poor. If you play as a marine in multi, you're dead, because the preditor will lock on and kill you with one hit while they take 50 rounds from your gun. Aliens will drop down and one shot you from behind AS will preditors.