Poll: Was i the only one who was satisfied with PS2/Xbox graphics?

[Jazoni89]

Yes, the previous generations graphics were serviceable (as in it they actually look like what they it should look like, instead of a pile of polygons like the psone, and saturn days), but nowadays i think companies are increasing the graphics for merely cosmetic reasons rather than practical reasons.

Also, don't rule out the Gamecube, and Dreamcast, they also had good graphics.

Especially Metroid Prime on the Cube, that looks even better than some of the newer games that are out today.

I feel graphics this generation are a commodity. We are used to increasing graphics power both for immersion and for eye catching earns, so we keep upping the stakes. Some of my favorite titles are from the NES and even before that, so they aren't mandatory, but a great game with good graphics is always nice as well.



Jazoni- I quote you because I have a genuine question. Why do you feel the graphics on the NGC, and specifically Metroid Prime, were good? I felt that whole system was poor in the graphics department (and most all others as well), and Prime specifically was an abysmal game with standard graphics. I don't say this to start a flame war on Prime, people love it so it did something right, I am just curious what you are using as a frame of reference or what it is that makes you enjoy the title.

Also, anyone else can reply to this question as well, not just Jazoni

Good Question actually, i think it's the art direction, and the feeling of being truly immersed in it's world.

When i play Metroid Prime i feel like I'm experiencing this hostile alien world, which all it's rich varied environments. From the dark burning lava pits of Magmoor caverns, to the snowy bitter yet warm environment of Phendrana lake. All this coupled with brilliant exploration makes it one of the most immersive experiences i've ever had with a video game.

Also, i personally think your a bit biased towards the console, saying that the graphics, and games were bad. It pretty much trumped the ps2, and even rivalled the orginal xbox in terms of graphical power (and that's a fact, not a opinion). The gamecube was capable of some very good graphical tricks, that sadly many developers didn't use to it's full potential. In fact the only games to really take advantage of the graphical trickery were the metroid prime games, and of course many nintendo franchises notably zelda.

Cmon, you seriously can't begrudge the fact that Wind Waker looks beautiful surely.

 

[Godhead]

Well seeing how I've logged in over 17 hours on Dungeon Siege in two weeks I'm going to have to go with a big fat no.

 

[Doclector]

Some of last gen's graphics were damn beautiful. The silent hill ps2 games, for example.

But you have committed the crime of forgetting about the gamecube. Star wars: rogue squadron was amazing to look at.

 

[Biodeamon]

The PS2 was totally great actually in my opinion, until Sony become they complete lazy selllouts they are now

 

[Jazoni89]

Some of last gen's graphics were damn beautiful. The silent hill ps2 games, for example.

But you have committed the crime of forgetting about the gamecube. Star wars: rogue squadron was amazing to look at.

Oh yes, rogue squadron, both of those games had jaw dropping graphics for the time.

 

[AndrewC]

Of course you're not the only one *facepalm*

Graphics don't make a game good, sure they might add to it but that's it.

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[Nanaki316]

I couldn't care less about graphics. I'd happily go back and play some Amiga games. Gameplay > Graphics, always has been with me.

 

[umpufnufguf]

hell, i own a 360, but haven't played it except for portal since i bought a PS2 about a month ago. this is mainly because the games are ridiculously cheap, but the graphics are fine...

 

[Byere]

Oh GAWD YES!

I frigging LOVE my PS2. It's not about the graphics, for sure. No game should be made solely for its graphics and the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era of gaming was one of the main peaks of the industry IMO.
Still, on the topic at hand, yes... I do still love the graphical side of the PS2/Xbox/GC. As a lover of retro gaming, I still play old SNES, Megadrive/Genesis and even the occasional NES game. Given the chance, I'd like to try any get hold of some of my old Atari games again. Man, they were fun.

 

[GeorgW]

I was satisfied with the N64...
Graphics are extremely low on my list, gameplay> everything!

 

[Iwata]

My most played games on my PS3 are Earthworm Jim , Wolfenstein 3D and the SEGA Mega Drive Ultimate Collection.

Does that answer your question?

 

[Jazoni89]

Oh GAWD YES!

I frigging LOVE my PS2. It's not about the graphics, for sure. No game should be made solely for its graphics and the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era of gaming was one of the main peaks of the industry IMO.
Still, on the topic at hand, yes... I do still love the graphical side of the PS2/Xbox/GC. As a lover of retro gaming, I still play old SNES, Megadrive/Genesis and even the occasional NES game. Given the chance, I'd like to try any get hold of some of my old Atari games again. Man, they were fun.

Cough"dontforgettheDreamcast"Cough

Which also had it's fair share of nice looking games despite being graphically inferior to the ps2.

Sonic Adventure is one.

This came out in 1998 in japan...yeah.

Sorry, but i just love the Dreamcast, and people forgetting about the system (and not counting it as a last gen console) is one of my gaming pet peeves, that of which only a Dreamcast owner can understand.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

I have no problem at all with a game that has good graphics of course. Yet when they get it all wrong, and focus on graphics before gameplay and story, then something's wrong. Yes, Square Enix, I'm looking at you.

 

[TheDuckbunny]

Graphics enhance immersion, but bad animations pull me out of it immediately. So I don't really care about a game having PS2/Xbox graphics as long as the animations are convincing (for instance Shadow of the Colossus). I think the industry is slowly working itself into a problem with the increased focus on graphical power though, so I wouldn't mind them taking a step back for a while and examining the state of the industry.

 

[PxDn Ninja]

Good Question actually, i think it's the art direction, and the feeling of being truly immersed in it's world.

When i play Metroid Prime i feel like I'm experiencing this hostile alien world, which all it's rich varied environments. From the dark burning lava pits of Magmoor caverns, to the snowy bitter yet warm environment of Phendrana lake. All this coupled with brilliant exploration makes it one of the most immersive experiences i've ever had with a video game.

Also, i personally think your a bit biased towards the console, saying that the graphics, and games were bad. It pretty much trumped the ps2, and even rivalled the orginal xbox in terms of graphical power (and that's a fact, not a opinion). The gamecube was capable of some very good graphical tricks, that sadly many developers didn't use to it's full potential. In fact the only games to really take advantage of the graphical trickery were the metroid prime games, and of course many nintendo franchises notably zelda.

Cmon, you seriously can't begrudge the fact that Wind Waker looks beautiful surely.

Actually, I feel Wind Waker was the worst looking Zelda released to date (excluding the CDi Zeldas). However this is an opinion of art and not of tech. The system manages the Cell Shade pretty well, but I prefer the look of Twilight Princess, which the GameCube would not be able to acheive, but the PS2 very much could (Example: MGS3:Snake Eater or the above mentioned Shadows of the Colossus).

In response to your answer about Metroid Prime, that I can very much respect. I did like a few things they did in that title (light reflections letting you see Samus's face in her helmet), but overall I just couldn't get immersed in the game due to the poor controls. That said, I can see your reasons and understand completely.

Back to my being biased toward the console, I simply speak from what I have seen. I am an avid collector of games (My collection is over 2000 titles now), and from that generation I own around 160 ps2 titles, 120 xbox titles, and only 15 or so gamecube titles, and some of those I just sort of ended up with. The problem is no game made you HAVE to have the system

 

[Akihiko]

PS2 and Xbox were certainly fine for graphics. Really the only thing that bugs me is the jagged edges, but that comes down to the console not outputting in HD. It can easily be solved by using an emulator, playing xbox games on the 360, or buying the HD versions on ps3.

 

[Jazoni89]

Good Question actually, i think it's the art direction, and the feeling of being truly immersed in it's world.

When i play Metroid Prime i feel like I'm experiencing this hostile alien world, which all it's rich varied environments. From the dark burning lava pits of Magmoor caverns, to the snowy bitter yet warm environment of Phendrana lake. All this coupled with brilliant exploration makes it one of the most immersive experiences i've ever had with a video game.

Also, i personally think your a bit biased towards the console, saying that the graphics, and games were bad. It pretty much trumped the ps2, and even rivalled the orginal xbox in terms of graphical power (and that's a fact, not a opinion). The gamecube was capable of some very good graphical tricks, that sadly many developers didn't use to it's full potential. In fact the only games to really take advantage of the graphical trickery were the metroid prime games, and of course many nintendo franchises notably zelda.

Cmon, you seriously can't begrudge the fact that Wind Waker looks beautiful surely.

Actually, I feel Wind Waker was the worst looking Zelda released to date (excluding the CDi Zeldas). However this is an opinion of art and not of tech. The system manages the Cell Shade pretty well, but I prefer the look of Twilight Princess, which the GameCube would not be able to acheive, but the PS2 very much could (Example: MGS3:Snake Eater or the above mentioned Shadows of the Colossus).

In response to your answer about Metroid Prime, that I can very much respect. I did like a few things they did in that title (light reflections letting you see Samus's face in her helmet), but overall I just couldn't get immersed in the game due to the poor controls. That said, I can see your reasons and understand completely.

Back to my being biased toward the console, I simply speak from what I have seen. I am an avid collector of games (My collection is over 2000 titles now), and from that generation I own around 160 ps2 titles, 120 xbox titles, and only 15 or so gamecube titles, and some of those I just sort of ended up with. The problem is no game made you HAVE to have the system

Except Shadow of the colossus had serious framerate problems trying to process it's world. The game was the peak of the ps2's graphical capabilities, and it still didn't look as nice as the Metroid Prime games did (it still looks really nice though especially for the ps2).

Controls were bad? except for some dodgy platforming sections which needed complete precision jumping, they were okay.

I own all four consoles from the last gen, and i have a sizeable collection for each one, and i love them all. They all have their must haves, and their rubbish games, Pro's, and their Cons.

Their are tons of great games on the Gamecube if you know were to look, and if you do your research.

Don't act like a snob, get informed. (If you ever want some good cube recommendations drop me a PM)

 

[Pearwood]

After playing PS3 it's starting to become noticable but I still love PS2 games. I still love PS1 games for that matter, and Megadrive.

 

[PxDn Ninja]

Good Question actually, i think it's the art direction, and the feeling of being truly immersed in it's world.

When i play Metroid Prime i feel like I'm experiencing this hostile alien world, which all it's rich varied environments. From the dark burning lava pits of Magmoor caverns, to the snowy bitter yet warm environment of Phendrana lake. All this coupled with brilliant exploration makes it one of the most immersive experiences i've ever had with a video game.

Also, i personally think your a bit biased towards the console, saying that the graphics, and games were bad. It pretty much trumped the ps2, and even rivalled the orginal xbox in terms of graphical power (and that's a fact, not a opinion). The gamecube was capable of some very good graphical tricks, that sadly many developers didn't use to it's full potential. In fact the only games to really take advantage of the graphical trickery were the metroid prime games, and of course many nintendo franchises notably zelda.

Cmon, you seriously can't begrudge the fact that Wind Waker looks beautiful surely.

Actually, I feel Wind Waker was the worst looking Zelda released to date (excluding the CDi Zeldas). However this is an opinion of art and not of tech. The system manages the Cell Shade pretty well, but I prefer the look of Twilight Princess, which the GameCube would not be able to acheive, but the PS2 very much could (Example: MGS3:Snake Eater or the above mentioned Shadows of the Colossus).

In response to your answer about Metroid Prime, that I can very much respect. I did like a few things they did in that title (light reflections letting you see Samus's face in her helmet), but overall I just couldn't get immersed in the game due to the poor controls. That said, I can see your reasons and understand completely.

Back to my being biased toward the console, I simply speak from what I have seen. I am an avid collector of games (My collection is over 2000 titles now), and from that generation I own around 160 ps2 titles, 120 xbox titles, and only 15 or so gamecube titles, and some of those I just sort of ended up with. The problem is no game made you HAVE to have the system

Except Shadow of the colossus had serious framerate problems trying to process it's world. The game was the peak of the ps2's graphical capabilities, and it still didn't look as nice as the Metroid Prime games did (it still looks really nice though especially for the ps2).

Controls were bad? except for some dodgy platforming sections which needed complete precision jumping, they were okay.

I own all four consoles from the last gen, and i have a sizeable collection for each one, and i love them all. They all have their must haves, and their rubbish games, Pro's, and their Cons.

Their are tons of great games on the Gamecube if you know were to look, and if you do your research.

Don't act like a snob, get informed. (If you ever want some good cube recommendations drop me a PM)

Shadow was at the peek of the PS2s power, but I still think it looked better than even Prime on the NGC. Something about the lighting in that game felt off to me.

As for bad controls, the controller itself is to blame for that. The GameCube controller was a nightmare to work with, and that translated to a lot of potentially good games getting low marks from me due to poor control.

To join the good, there were some gems on the gamecube. MGS:Twin Snakes, PN03, Eternal Darkness (one of the best games of that generation even), all were solid titles, but I feel all could have been done better on a rival console. (MGS helps prove that via the fact that the PS1 version played better, while the NGC version looked better).

Research is something I have no problem doing. My job requires me to research titles that come out all the time. This is just what I have found from what all I have seen. No snobbery intended, just speaking from what I have seen. By all means list what you found to be great games on the console and perhaps you will hit some I didn't check out, but I've had plenty of experience with the kit (a friend is also a huge NGC fan so he has many of the major titles) and it just has always failed to impress.

As one final plus for the system, it is the most reliable of that generation. The only system I have never heard of breaking by any of my friends.

 

[The Chemist]

Some of last gen's graphics were damn beautiful. The silent hill ps2 games, for example.

But you have committed the crime of forgetting about the gamecube. Star wars: rogue squadron was amazing to look at.

Oh yes, rogue squadron, both of those games had jaw dropping graphics for the time.

LOL! you are correct, i would be lying if i said i owned a bunch of games. i bought it for Resident Evil 4......and thats all i can really remember, but those graphics were AMAZING!!!