Poll: Weapons List: Zombie Survivalist

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RaNDM G

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Hey guys,
Well, after wasting some space here on The Escapist forums for awhile now, I figured I might as well make some sort of contribution to the site. So I figured, "Why don't I make some sort of awesome list of everything someone would need to live through some sort of very, very bad thing that in a word would be unexplainable?" So I did. It took me awhile but I managed to assemble a list of everything you'd need to live life like a scavenger during a zombie apocalypse. This is the first in my series of "Weapons List" guides so sound off on the poll if you guys like it or not. I'll see if I can take in some constructive criticism that will help me improve some things. I don't need to stress how important food and water is to the human body so I'll only be covering weapons and vehicles.

-- Weapons --
Guns:
- Benelli M4 or Remington 11-87 Police Shotgun -- or -- Any M1 or M4 Style Carbine
Note the word STYLE. It is a generally accepted fact that the M4/M16 rifles are the WORST weapons used in modern combat today. The M1 is definitely the preferred option between the two, but if possible pick up a Robinson M96 XCR, FNC, or H&K MR556/762. They are definite improvements over the M4 in terms of maintenance and reliability whilst retaining the accuracy the M4 is known for. Another weapon to consider would be the SIG 556 Classic SWAT, which you may be able to find off of local law enforcement depending on which state you live in.

EDIT: The list is meant for people who are constantly on the move and would only want to deal with the undead if there were no other option. If the purpose of the list was for someone to actively exterminate a zombie horde, I'm sure they would be better off using hunting and assault rifles. The reason I chose carbines over "fuller" weapons was because of their exceptional balance between their lighter-weight and accuracy at a fair range (about 50 yards). All the guns listed here are semi-auto civilian models, not just to insure you make off quick, accurate shots, but also to make sure they're state legal.

- Any .38, .357, .45 ACP, or 9mm handgun or revolver
The rounds for these weapons are the most commonly used in today's world, therefore, they would simply be the most logical choices. A .22, while both light, plentiful, and certainly capable of penetrating the braincase, would be a bit too inaccurate for a safe engagement whilst anything above the power of a .357 would be better off used in a rifle.

Knives:
- Blackened KA-BAR Kukri Machete -- or -- 14-1/4? Heavy Bowie
Either of these blades would work fine with the only major difference between the two being how you would use them. Whereas the Kukri is best used for slashing and chopping movements, the Bowie is better used for gutting your opponents. Both have their disadvantages (a miss with a Kukri will leave you exposed to attack while the Bowie's only use would be to mess up a zombie's insides) but they both have considerably long blades that would be more than capable of reaching out and touching the undead adversary.

- Becker Necker x2
Your standard last resort knife, these should only be used to prevent yourself from being bitten when grabbed.

Viewer's Choice (A special segment where I post certain weapons the viewers would take with them in the event of contamination):
- M14
- Spartan Laser
- M1 Garand
- H&K UMP45
- .30-30 Winchester
- Necronomicon
- Dual Needlers
- Crowbar
- One Nuclear Bomb
- Grenades
- Flamethrower
- AK-47
- Dragunov SVD
- Katana

Utility:
- KA-BAR K2 Rescue Kit/Becker TacTool/Stanley 55-122 Forcible Entry Fubar
The difference between the first two is that while the K2 Kit is pretty much a multi-component screwdriver with a decent last resort blade attached to the other side, the TacTool is more like a crowbar/saw/combat knife all rolled into one. The Fubar practically works like a sledge hammer. Not only can it be used for breaking down barricades, but it also makes a pretty decent melee weapon with proper training.

Verdict: Although good for making things nice and quiet, there are too many parts to the Rescue Kit for me to give a glowing recommendation. And unless you want to keep it in your car or you happen to find a special slot for it on your backpack, the Fubar would be too heavy to carry around with you, meaning you'd have to forsake your primary weapon if you're stuck walking. So the TacTool gets the win.

- Piano Wire
For those with lingering suspicions, a net of piano wire will be able to withhold a small group of zombies for days if properly assembled, mangling the limbs to the point where they would be practically unusable. And if a zombie actually decides to run through one of these, then all the better.

- A Backpack
To carry necessities: food, water, and clothes.

-- Travel --
Off Road/Initial Escape:
- Suzuki DR-Z250/KTM300 EXC
The Suzuki is a good beginner's bike, so I'd recommend using that if you've never rode a motorcycle before. The KTM has better off road capability but can be a little too powerful for someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

Around Town/Going Solo:
- Schwinn 2009 Frontier GSD
Your standard bicycle. Good in case you want to make your way through town quietly.

Group Travel:
- Jeep Wrangler 4x4.
Only for groups of 4 or more. Unless you were trying to get a fairly large group from point A to point B, I wouldn't recommend driving through a city. There will be too many cars in the way for you to navigate through, making bikes and motorcycles the preffered option in heavily populated areas.
Open countryside is a different story. So long as you have enough fuel, you will be able to shorten your trips considerably. Just be prepared to face whatever terrain you're in once you run out of gas.

Thanks for reading!

PS: If your wondering why I used mostly KA-BAR weapons on the list, it's because A) KA-BAR is the best mass producer of combat ready knives you'll ever come across and B) I was too lazy to check up on any other site.
 

SharPhoe

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Do you have any idea how many zombie survival threads have already been made in the past week alone? I mean, I applaud you for doing something slightly different, but... I don't expect others to take it well.
 

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Most of the weapons that you've listed seem to be sensible, but I'd be recommending full-length rifles instead of carbines due to range and accuracy issues. An M14 or similar weapon will provide good long-range firepower when given a scope, and pistols are good enough for close-quarters combat with a zombie (assuming it's a traditional slow zombie).
 

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You are forgetting explosives for trapping the zombie hoards as they attack you in the encampment most will go to ......as for me I will keep moving so as to never allow the zombies to catch me!
 

linchowlewy

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someone has an unhealthy obsession...

Which i sincerely appluad you one. When the inevitable apocalypse comes it will be the gibbering maniacs that will decide the fate of humanity. and you sir. you, are the best gibbering maniac i have seen in a long time.

also, pistols are stupid as you would be too scared shitless to make them worth while.
 

Noamuth

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RaNDM G

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aussiesniper said:
Most of the weapons that you've listed seem to be sensible, but I'd be recommending full-length rifles instead of carbines due to range and accuracy issues. An M14 or similar weapon will provide good long-range firepower when given a scope, and pistols are good enough for close-quarters combat with a zombie (assuming it's a traditional slow zombie).
The list is meant for people who are constantly on the move and would only want to deal with the undead if there were no other option. If the purpose of the list was for someone to actively exterminate a zombie horde, I'm sure they would be better off using hunting and assault rifles. The reason I chose carbines over "fuller" weapons was because of their exceptional balance between their lighter-weight and accuracy at a fair range (about 50 yards).

Shinny_Explosions said:
You are forgetting explosives for trapping the zombie hoards as they attack you in the encampment most will go to ......as for me I will keep moving so as to never allow the zombies to catch me!
For clearing a path or creating barricades, yes. For blowing shit to Hell, not so much. But I like your way of thinking.

linchowlewy said:
someone has an unhealthy obsession...

Which i sincerely appluad you one. When the inevitable apocalypse comes it will be the gibbering maniacs that will decide the fate of humanity. and you sir. you, are the best gibbering maniac i have seen in a long time.
Thanks... I think?

linchowlewy said:
also, pistols are stupid as you would be too scared shitless to make them worth while.
That's why you should get a head-start on everyone else by training with your chosen weapon. You could give someone a flippin' Gatling Gun and they'd be dead in 5 minutes because they were "scared shitless."

Noamuth said:
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No.
 

Knight Templar

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Noamuth said:
Surely, there are [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.109642#1881111] enough of these [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.91743#1433890] already?
I blame swine Flu, everybody thinks its the end of the world and such.
 

Lord Krunk

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Knight Templar said:
Noamuth said:
Surely, there are [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.109642#1881111] enough of these [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.91743#1433890] already?
I blame swine Flu, everybody thinks its the end of the world and such.
You never know, someone could be dumb enough to make a counter-virus and cause I Am legend all over again...
traceur_ said:
you forgot Spartan Laser
A must for any and all zombie attacks.
 

RaNDM G

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LimaBravo said:
Cloudbuster is go.
Okay?

LimaBravo said:
a) In event of a infection that causes the dead to rise striking them with a machete or any ther melee weapon will infact burst them like ripe melons. So unless your machete includes a hazmat suit with rebreather tanks you'vw infected yourself well done. Human bodies are wet diseased and drip and slough everywhere. And thats when their alive.
But you already know that ZOMBIES DON'T BLEED! As taken from Max Brooks' Zombie Survival Guide, "The circulatory system of the undead is little more than a network of useless tubes with congealed blood... The lack of fluid mass prevents easy transmission of the virus."

LimaBravo said:
b) 9mm is for target practice, If a reanimated/enraged/whatever human is coming towards you you need .45 or larger, .357 while a valid round isnt happy in automatics, neither is .44. Of these rounds the .45 is better, more consistent, more prolific, wider for better hurt on target.
That's why I put revolvers as an equivalent to the semi-automatic handgun. And while I agree the .45 is the best round to use, it really wouldn't matter since you'd be going for headshots.

LimaBravo said:
5.56mm NATO is designed to bleed the target out not take down... .30 anything rifles Id suggest a lever action Winchester would be the best choice for 'man stopping'.
Again, round size wouldn't matter since you'd be going for headshots.

LimaBravo said:
M4 would be imbecilic, Youd be better off with a Garand, A UMP .45 would be the only reasonable auto weapon.
I already said the M4/M16 family of weapons were the worst ever made. That's why I said to use either the M1 carbine or an M4 styled weapon such as the H&K MR556. And why would you think I was using automatics? All the firearms listed were semi-auto civilian models. Besides, in the event of an outbreak, an automatic would be next to useless unless you had a gun with enough umph to cut zombies to shreds (ie: M249 SAW).

Also, an M1 Garand would be much too cumbersome to be carrying around with you all friggin' day, wouldn't it? For someone who made a living exterminating the living dead, then yes, I would recommend using this rifle over anything else. But since this list is for people who plan to actively travel the barren landscapes searching for supplies, a lighter weapon would be required.

LimaBravo said:
I dont understand these kids, dont talk about something you dont understand, or at least if you want to make a 'list' of cool but utterly impractical things for the task I've set myself
Then why would you bother commenting?

LimaBravo said:
Why would you blacken a combat knife ? Zombies cant see.
I'm pretty sure they can. The brain of the zombie is 90% more efficient than a normal human's, allowing the undead adversary to concentrate more on their surroundings. As such, zombies are pretty much attracted to anything, be it the shuffle of footsteps from across the hall to the glow of a cigarette across the field. Although a zombie's sight is pretty much the same as the normal human, the undead interpret visual signals differently, meaning they'll know something's not right if they see a moving reflection of light gleaming off of the blade you're carrying.


I really get annoyed by people who already jump to conclusions without reading the entire post or doing research into the subject. Next time, refrain yourself from commenting before you've read and completely understood the topic.
 

iJosh

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I have a nice heavy bowie. It makes me feel secksy.

I'd just use dual needlers. Kill undeads easy.
 

UsefulPlayer 1

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Crowbar!

Simply melee weapon and allows you to break into all the empty houses, stores, vending machines and such.
 

RaNDM G

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traceur_ said:
you forgot Spartan Laser
Of course! How could I forget?

UsefulPlayer 1 said:
Crowbar!

Simply melee weapon and allows you to break into all the empty houses, stores, vending machines and such.
My personal recommendation if someone doesn't feel like going all-out on the Fubar. Especially works well if made with Titanium.

ThrobbingEgo said:
All you need is a copy of the Necronomicon.
Wait a sec. You propose to unleash an army of the undead to vanquish, of all things, an army of the undead?

Genius!

iJosh said:
I have a nice heavy bowie. It makes me feel secksy.
You must have good taste, sir.

iJosh said:
I'd just use dual needlers. Kill undeads easy.
Gotta love the homing factor.
 

RaNDM G

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Anyone else?... No?... Alright then.

Due to the overwhelmingly good response to this post (out of the 28 who voted on the poll, only 5 people hated it), I decided to continue the series of lists.

By tomorrow, I should have my next checklist up. "Weapons List: Quelling a Robot Uprising."

So if you liked this one, come see what I'll have in store for you. If not, whatever.