wait wait wait, wheres that research? i thought that tobacco is much worse because of hotter smoke and more chemical carcinogens. i heard that tobacco is a cancer hazard, but if grass alone has a much lower risk. BUT, in that same study it is noted that someone who smokes both has a higher risk than either alone.Sarpedon said:Personally, I am for it. Smoking weed is like smoking tobacco (which is perfectly legal), granted that the chances of lung problems and cancer are much higher with marijuana then tobacco.
Elcarsh said:Oh really, do you now?Lem0nade Inlay said:However one incredibly dangerous aspect of smoking weed is the fact that if you just try out weed once it can bring up underlying mental illnesses like schizophrenia (sp?). Alcohol cannot bring up these mental diseases as quickly as marijuana can. I know this for a fact.
Then, pray tell, where does your information come from?
The only peer reviewed study I've seen that even comes close to what you're saying is one stating that there is a connection between constant use of marijuana over many years and early onset of schizophrenia. But hey, maybe you have a more reliable one?
Time to own up; prove it or stop spouting that ignorant nonsense!Lem0nade Inlay said:However I do believe alcohol is bad for you in a huge number of ways, I'm not denying that, but I just feel that weed can be more dangerous if you only have it once or twice, than alcohol can if you only have 1 or 2 drinks ever. If that makes sense.
In this case it did.Elcarsh said:Oh yes, because it takes weed in order for people to drift apart, it never ever happens without it.IWCAS said:I've lost a lot of friends to weed. They didn't die, they just drifted away from me. My best friend, whom I've known since I was 2, started smoking at around age 14-15 (somewhere in between maybe) and ever since then he isn't any fun to hang around. He doesn't want to hang with me anymore anyways... I don't smoke. I never will. ILLEGAL.
Are you kidding me?
Yes, both should be illegal.Elcarsh said:I take it you are in favor of making alcohol completely illegal, then?Sober Thal said:I vote keep it illegal. I don't want more 'stoners' driving.
People who want to murder potheads makes me want to cry, what did we ever do to you?The_Yeti said:Pot should totally be legalized, right after they legalize the justified murder of potheads, crack addicts, people purposely wearing their shorts/pants below the ass, and those extremely annoying westboro church assholes - by civilians as well as armed forces, hooah!
This is not true, please read all this if you want to have an informed argument about marijuana: http://www.marijuana.com/medicinal-marijuana/11006-marijuana-vs-tobacco-tars-not-so-bad.htmlSarpedon said:Personally, I am for it. Smoking weed is like smoking tobacco (which is perfectly legal), granted that the chances of lung problems and cancer are much higher with marijuana then tobacco.
You really are one of the more ignorant people I've talked to on this website. He's my friend. I know him better than you. When he started smoking he wanted to hang out with the pot smokers. It's simple. Either you're trying to make this more complicated than it really is or you support pot to the point where you see no bad things about it. In this case my friend who I've known for a good 10 years decided pot was more interesting than me. That's bad. I figured you had something you wanted to get through to me but at this point I don't care. Please don't reply anymore. I don't care about what you have to say.Elcarsh said:You really do believe that correlation equals causation, don't you?IWCAS said:In this case it did.
I believe that you drifted apart at the same time as he started growing a beard as well. Clearly, it's the beard's fault!
Well... Er... Yeah, you got me there. Colour me informed.Elcarsh said:That has to be one of the dumbest of all the arguments against a legalization of cannabis. What, do you think it was something that was invented in time for the war on drugs?FreelanceButler said:I'd rather it stayed illegal. If alcohol were only discovered yesterday, there's no way it would stay legal.
I'm pretty sure the main reason tobacco and alcohol is still legal is because of the huge economic impacts if they were taken away. I don't see why we should have weed as another danger that can't be controlled properly because someone will lose money if it is.
Cannabis has been around for just as long as alcohol, which makes that argument absolutely stupid.
Furthermore, if the fact that banning alcohol would have a negative impact on society as a whole, why is it so impossible to make that same argument for cannabis?
Fact of the matter is that people will smoke cannabis regardless of whether it is illegal or not. Fact of the matter is also that the ban on it means that 100% of the profits end up in the pockets of criminals, IE not a single dime in taxes, plus it helps fund other criminal activity. Fact of the matter is also that millions of dollars in the US alone each year are spent prosecuting and imprisoning people for a crime that has no victim.
If the pragmatic approach is so absolutely acceptable when it concerns alcohol, why on earth is it so impossible to imagine that we could apply that exact same pragmatic approach when it concerns cannabis?
Really, what are the benefits of the ban? What resources are saved because of it? How much money does the government net on the ban?