Poll: What do other country think of america
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Yeah, I understood that. I was just pointing out that even if you feel no ill will towards American civilians, If the US were to collapse it would be very bad for us. So, if you feel no ill will towards us maybe it would be better to hope the American government improves instead of "dies and burns in hell" which seems a little extreme.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
The US is probably no worse than any other country, though the large coverage by its media allows the rest of the world to openly see its flaws.
Culturally, its one of the messiest cultures in the world, but that is explained by its foundation. This however seems to have led to a polarisation and extremism in beliefs in some areas of the country, rather than the cultural boiling pot one would expect.
There is a fixation on money and wealth that is disturbing. One analogy I was told recently was an American and an Irishman, who see a mansion on a hill. The American says "Someday, I'm gonna live in that house." The Irishman says, "Someday, I'm gonna get the fucker who lives in that house." The point being that Americans have respect for wealth, and for the wealthy (which might explain their bizarre celebrity culture), whereas another culture (Irish being my own) looks at wealth with distain, seeing the wealthy as corrupt or having cheated/chanced their way to success. The USA is probably one of the most unequal developed societies in the world; it boasts soem of the worst excesses of personal wealth and some of the poorest people in modern societies.
With that and the fixation of military, as well as some of the worlds worst politicians, I don't think I'd ever want to live in the US. My visits there before have been good, but I was just as disturbed with many things that I saw as I was enthralled.
Culturally, its one of the messiest cultures in the world, but that is explained by its foundation. This however seems to have led to a polarisation and extremism in beliefs in some areas of the country, rather than the cultural boiling pot one would expect.
There is a fixation on money and wealth that is disturbing. One analogy I was told recently was an American and an Irishman, who see a mansion on a hill. The American says "Someday, I'm gonna live in that house." The Irishman says, "Someday, I'm gonna get the fucker who lives in that house." The point being that Americans have respect for wealth, and for the wealthy (which might explain their bizarre celebrity culture), whereas another culture (Irish being my own) looks at wealth with distain, seeing the wealthy as corrupt or having cheated/chanced their way to success. The USA is probably one of the most unequal developed societies in the world; it boasts soem of the worst excesses of personal wealth and some of the poorest people in modern societies.
With that and the fixation of military, as well as some of the worlds worst politicians, I don't think I'd ever want to live in the US. My visits there before have been good, but I was just as disturbed with many things that I saw as I was enthralled.
Fair enough, I think when I originally responded to your post last night I was already feeling defensive from all the American bashing going on in this thread, so hopefully you can see why I may have taken your post to seriously. Anyway, my apologies if I miss interpreted your intentions.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
hmmm no its still arrogance, United States of America has already been shortened... its called USA.Chemical Alia said:
OT: only met a few americans some were decent others were complete pricks who can go get hit by a bus, hard to judge without going there seeing as all the sitcoms dont exactly paint a realistic picture and the only other thing to do with america i have access to is "man vs food"
Hmmm... I'm not so sure about that. In the UK areas with lower living costs are usually also places with higher levels of unemployment (i.e. Where poor people live). So, whilst being constantly poor is "stable", I'm not entirely sure thats what you were getting at.thethird0611 said:
Honestly... You need to get a life. Most of the world calls the United States "America" and it's inhabitants "Americans"(or their national equivalent i.e. "Amerika" in Germany). - Even other people from the North, Central and South American continents. Those of you arguing that it's a mark of arrogance for them to be refered to as Americans are just arguing semantics for the sake of it.llew said:
I'd say continuing to do so is borderline trolling at this point.
If you're going to represent the United States, I have to ask, as a denizen of the United States myself, that you obtain basic grammar skills first. I believe that you meant to to say something along these lines:tf2godz said:
After reading this thread (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.368368-Chanting-U-S-A-Racism?), I got to wondering what the rest of the world thinks about our history, culture, and our present state. Please be honest with me, okay?
The word "are" is a conjugation of "to be," as seen in "you are," "we are," and "they are."
The word "our" is a plural possessive, as seen in "our history," "our culture," and "our present state."
I hope that you are either under the age of 10 or were forced to attend a sub-par school. Nothing else qualifies such a mistake.
I honestly don't have that much more to say, the picture explains it quite nicely.
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.....Oh you want me to actually explain?
I spent the last 3+ish years abroad and to be honest every other damn country has the same nonsense going on in one shape or another. America just catches so much flak because it is so open in sharing their bullshit with the rest of the world. Seriously, the levels of hate that some people have for America(ns) is a bit silly.
My experience of Americans is varied, I've only met one American who dosent annoy me but he's a lecturer at my university the other Americans I've come across have really irritated me and my general consensus of the country in general is of fat lazy idiots however I do want to go to the US to hopefully be proved wrong.
For that reason, I intentionally say "the United States" or "the States" when talking about where I'm from. "I'm from the States" is actually shorter to say than "I'm an American" anyway.TheOmenCorpse said:
-As a teacher, I can say that yes, it is.mParadox said:
-Did I mention that I'm a history teacher in particular? And I try to present the information as objectively as possible. Even when discussing the American Revolution, I present a case for why it was arguably right and fair for Britain to tax the colonists the way that they did. Then again, I'm one of those crazies who thinks that history should be taught objective, value-nuetral, and bias-nuetral, and then encourage students to use their critical thinking skills to come to their own values and perspectives on the matters.
-Yes, the politics are insane. The difference between the right and the left is so pronounced that a part of me wonders why we haven't yet had another civil war.
-For what it's worth, I'm sorry. That's all I can say. If I could get rid of one thing in our media, it would be that. EDIT: Wait, I forgot about FOX News! Hmm... Nope, still going to go with reality TV. At least FOX News serves a purpose: if someone believes that FOX News is actually fair and balanced, I know that I can't have a fair discussion about politics with them.
I guess you can call it laziness if you want. None of the other countries over here have America in its name so we shorten it. It's far from the most ridiculous abbreviation you will see over here.TheOmenCorpse said:
Ah. The Escapist. Where the United States is the most vile and corrupt force in the universe, and every other nation in the world are pure, uncorrupted, and full of nothing but intelligent saints.
Pffft. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Only a few people here at the Escapist actually believe that...Okay, more than a few. But a lot more people seem to be open minded to this sort of thing.
Edit: It's our government. We're starting to despise it as much as you guys as well. So we're not complete idiots.
Pffft. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Only a few people here at the Escapist actually believe that...Okay, more than a few. But a lot more people seem to be open minded to this sort of thing.
Edit: It's our government. We're starting to despise it as much as you guys as well. So we're not complete idiots.
What about the one(s) right in the middle? Like Kentucky? Which was important to both the North and the South back in the civil war that caused people to think of "the north and the south".ReservoirAngel said:
I wish I had avoided the thread altogether. As an American who knows a majority of the forum users on the Escapist are from the UK and Canada it has made me feel rather unwelcome. I only hope that eventually people well learn to judge others on their character instead of where they may have been born, which is complete happenstance. Though I don't think that's likely to happen. Nevertheless, I have learned my lesson about these kind of threads, as like you I'm not keen on the kind of argument they facilitate.SmashLovesTitanQuest said: