RealRT said:
BathorysGraveland2 said:
RealRT said:
Did you read the books? Because I did and they are terrorists. Yeah, kingdoms are being shit to non-humans - well scoia'tael slaughter guilty and innocents alike, including non-humans who refuse to join them. And yet, despite all that, scoia'tael turn out to be pawns of Nilfgaard, both in the books and the game. Of all factions, they are the least sympathetic one, causing nothing but trouble for everyone but Emhyr var Emreis.
First of all, as far as I remember, he wasn't shocked with Henselt doing that after finding out, more with Henselt finding out and how sudden everything was. Second, he was doing his job, it wasn't his fault. Third - Henselt raped Ves in addition to hanging all others, so stop saying that's what anyone would have done in his place. Spies are usually taken prisoner and lengthily interrogated, not hung on the spot and certainly not raped. He's not a hypocrite. Yeah, he is flawed - but most certainly no more than Iorveth.
Yes, I have read the books which is why I'm sympathetic to the Scoia'tael. When invaders conquer your homeland and drive you into suppression, then of course they're going to fight back and be pissed off about it. In the world of the Witcher, innocents are killed in warfare. There is no Geneva convention. Tell me this, are the kingdoms also terrorists? After victories, plenty of innocent people get killed, and raped. Hell, you see it during the prologue. If a Scoia'tael warrior is a terrorist, then so is a Temerian soldier by my books.
And do you think Henselt really had any time to start interrogations and investigations? He had a war to fight, and just survived an assassination attempt. It's perfectly understandable why he'd be in no mood to grant quarter to his enemies. As for the rape, why even bring that up? In a game where entire nations are on the line, the tragedy of one women is hardly relevant.
Also, for some reason, you seem to be firmly against the Nilfgaard Empire, so this further confuses me of your view toward Henselt. Henselt dies - the conquest of the North is made that much easier for the empire. Know why? If Henselt is slain, Kaedwen falls into civil war. Now you have three of the four major kingdoms in chaos. Well done. You've done more for the empire than the Scoia'tael ever did. On the reverse, if Henselt lives and an alliance is brokered between him and king Radovid of Redania, there is suddenly a strong united north to stand against Nilfgaard.
So there you go.
Yeah, and the invasion in question happened how long ago? Way before the written history. Temerian soldiers are of course a bunch of bastards themselves, but their actions could at the very least be written off as "a la guerre comme a la guerre'. And again, they slay non-humans who refuse to join them. You say Roche is a hypocrite? Here's an example for each and every scoia'tael. Plus, as evidenced, scoia'tael make lives of regular non-humans much tougher because those are feared and suspected to be affiliated with them. If their end goal is to end supression and racism, they are hilariously bad at this.
He didn't have time for interrogation, but he did have time to rape her. Real nice. Well her tragedy was very relevant for Roche. He hand-picked her and all those men and trained them himself. That's why he was hell-bent on killing the bastard. And I let him, because if letting a rapist live is the price of victory, I better lose.
Interesting points of view, i guess i'm the middle of the road here. I don't think the Scoia'tael are "terrorists" because that's a concept that don't exist, or even, have logic within medieval warfare. The thing about terrorists is that they go that extra mile that usually armies don't go, they don't respect the rules of warfare, etc....They are more pragmatic. In the medieval times, there were no rules of engagement, you could go on a campaign of genocide and people wouldn' bat an eye. So, it's impossible to call the Scoia'tael terrorists when both sides don't really care how far they go.
About the Henselt situation, since i was roleplaying the Witcher that i finished the first game, i let Roche killed him. The reasoning is quite simple. In the first game i chose the Witcher's Path, it's when you don't pick sides and fight both of them, the focus is in completing the mission, you don't care about political bullshit. So, i played Witcher 2 with the same mindset, the motive i used to help Roche is basically because he was helping me, and the other guy was an atagonist. So, when there was the Henselt problem, i really decided to stick with my guns. My Geralt woudn't care about Henselt, he was just one other man in his way, it didn't matter that he was a king, my character don't waste his time with politics, so if my ally wants to kill him, and the bastard raped another ally of mine? Why not kill him? There is nothing to lose here, just gain some satisfaction.