Poll: What happens after death?
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What could I possibly be hiding?neuromasser said:Okay, I understand that. But I know that you're hiding somethingTim Buck II said:
Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything? I don't know, you just seem suspicious...Tim Buck II said:
i beleive that heaven exists.
i beleive that god exists.
im not sure about hell though.
anyway i am almost certain that there is a grand architect that shaped the universe and all of nature in his image.
i feel as long as nobody has TOTALLY disproved the theory of god then god does exist.
i beleive that god exists.
im not sure about hell though.
anyway i am almost certain that there is a grand architect that shaped the universe and all of nature in his image.
i feel as long as nobody has TOTALLY disproved the theory of god then god does exist.
I have something close to Pascal's wager. Except I didn't choose any god or goddess. I will see when I die. I wonder what kind of death will it be. It actually scratched my mind for a while. In a way, I can't wait to die!
Funny story about stupid friend: One of my friends said "Only you will know". I replied "since when I'm the only mortal on this earth?"
Funny story about stupid friend: One of my friends said "Only you will know". I replied "since when I'm the only mortal on this earth?"
Whoo! Heaven! Free corvettes and a million bucks in cash!
I guess we'll see when we all die. Occam's Razor would definitely tend to indicate some architect. Evolution doesn't necessarily mean that such a being can't exist. Maybe I don't believe both theories can coexist, but neither absolutely disproves the other.
Stan Marsh puts it rather well in "Go God Go:"
"Couldn't Evolution be the answer to how rather than the answer to why?"
Not saying I believe that entirely, but it's an interesting point.
I guess we'll see when we all die. Occam's Razor would definitely tend to indicate some architect. Evolution doesn't necessarily mean that such a being can't exist. Maybe I don't believe both theories can coexist, but neither absolutely disproves the other.
Stan Marsh puts it rather well in "Go God Go:"
"Couldn't Evolution be the answer to how rather than the answer to why?"
Not saying I believe that entirely, but it's an interesting point.
Iampringles said:
Haha, this.
I have my own beliefs when it comes to afterlife. I would say that reincarnation about fits it the closest. Here's what I think, sorry in advance about the wall of text.
When you die, you go to a reddish place. It's different for everyone. It's a strange place and all you think is 'how did I get here?' or some cliche crap like that. Anyway skip a lot of nonsense, in this afterlife you are judged on what you did with your human life. Based on that, you are reincarnated as a certain creature. If you helped a lot of people, you are brought back as maybe an eagle, or dragon. If you were a real dirtbag, then you come back as some shit creature like a rat, or ant, or cockroach. After you live out your consequences, you go back to the afterlife. You get the same sense of confusion. Because, of course, you have no memories of your past lives. You are now neutral and come back as a human again, to live out another life anew.
So, basically you have a life that has a system akin to Karma. After you live a certain amount of human lives, you are given the choice to stay in the afterlife. You live there until you either want to or have to go to live another life. I'm unsure on the details, because I don't want to make this shit up. I've been seeing crap in my dreams like this, and it's just kinda what I put together. The afterlife is a nice place, it has no system of time because it just observes the living world. It goes into many different corners of philosophy, like alien life. I think that other places in the afterlife oversee different things. Most of us will just get reincarnated again, though.
Then again, I always said that it's just what you believe. For those practicing christains out there, they will see the afterlife as heaven, or hell, based on how they see themselves. They will live out that afterlife for whatever time they think they deserve, and will be reincarnated with no memory. I believe in souls, and there's only enough to have so many in the afterlife and on earth at a time. It's all like a mystery, and nobody knows what happens. Maybe I'm way off, maybe nothing happens and we just rot. But who wants to think that?
It figures that people will say that there will be nothing when you die.
I personally believe that reincarnation is far more plausible. I mean, everything goes in a cycle, right? Rain evaporates, then condenses. Conservation of energy from prey to hunter.
All of those are cycles, and they all return to their original form at some point, so why shouldn't the afterlife work that way?
I think that when you die, you instantly flash over to your next life at birth, just like blinking your eyes. Ever wonder why babies cry? I think it's the pain from their death a few milliseconds beforehand.
And that light at the end of the tunnel? What the fuck do you think that is? Probably the fluorescent light in a hospital, or even the sun shining in a forest.
The main problem though, is that you forget your memories. The basics of your spirit's personality are still in your new form, but no memories exist. However, since dreams tend to transcend physical boundaries, dreams transfer some memories of your previous life back to you.
That is my whole take on the afterlife.
I personally believe that reincarnation is far more plausible. I mean, everything goes in a cycle, right? Rain evaporates, then condenses. Conservation of energy from prey to hunter.
All of those are cycles, and they all return to their original form at some point, so why shouldn't the afterlife work that way?
I think that when you die, you instantly flash over to your next life at birth, just like blinking your eyes. Ever wonder why babies cry? I think it's the pain from their death a few milliseconds beforehand.
And that light at the end of the tunnel? What the fuck do you think that is? Probably the fluorescent light in a hospital, or even the sun shining in a forest.
The main problem though, is that you forget your memories. The basics of your spirit's personality are still in your new form, but no memories exist. However, since dreams tend to transcend physical boundaries, dreams transfer some memories of your previous life back to you.
That is my whole take on the afterlife.
Besides the fact that this post made you seem like a pretentious prick, I'd like to point out some things in your post, according to your own philosophy.Ajna said:*Gasping for air*Zeuriel said:
I'm going to die from telling people this. It raises my blood pressure, you know.
Alright. Now here's what you do: Read the first line of my post. It's quoted above. Notice anything? "Something akin to Pascal's Wager". What's "akin" mean?Me said:
Let's turn to Google for help. akin(p): similar in quality or character; "a feeling akin to terror"; "kindred souls"; "the amateur is closely related to the collector". [http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aakin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US
What does this mean? Why, it means that I'm not saying "Pascal's Wager", but rather, that Pascal's Wager is close to my system of belief.
I worship Hojo. Hojo doesn't exist as an entity, but rather, is my way of telling whatever god/God/gods that exist that I recognize their existence, but can't tell who actually knows who they are, and who likes the shiny mercedes that the church money bought them.
*Rushes off, breathing deeply.*
Well, that time I didn't die...
This Hojo thing sounds like a complete cop-out. First off, you're playing it safe by saying you believe in a god but don't know which one exists. If you notice what Zeuriel said, he mentioned that Allah doesn't like it when you praise Vishnu. It's the same concept, except less specific. Allah doesn't like it when you don't praise him. You might be acknowledging that you believe in some sort of god, but most gods are very jealous and vengeful. If your not with them, your against them. So by saying "I believe in you, but not entirely, so I'm gonna play it safe by saying that another god has an equal chance of existing as you just in case," you're really not playing it safe. It's actually a worse off system than going all out religious, or even atheist. Here's why.You said:
Let's say there's a deity, and he's super mad at any non believers. That includes people who aren't 100% sure of him. This means that you have just as much chance of going to a bad afterlife as any atheist. Then lets say there's a reasonable god, and he accepts the atheists reasoning of not having proof, as well as having contrary proof, of his existence. This guy may go to the good afterlife, while you may go to the bad one for having a weak reason like "I was afraid of going to hell so I said I believed in all gods!". Then there's the god who just doesn't want you to be a dick. In this case, both you an the atheist would get in. And don't you think if I can see that the reason behind your 'religion' is fear of hell, then an omnipotent being would? There's really no outcome where you trump the nonbeliever, except maybe if such a situation comes up where whatever god exists is so stuck up and in need of reassurance that he wants you to worship anything at all.
And about having nothing to lose if there's no afterlife- there is of course something you could lose. For example, the pursuit of truth, or sending people on that pursuit? For more religious people, what about all of their Sundays, countless friends lost over religious matters, bad decisions regarding abortion or gay rights, or other issues such as those. Although it doesn't affect them directly, what about the cruelty they inflict on others? Is that not losing anything? Of course, this last bit is pointed more at the straight up Pascal's Wager folks, but they may apply to you in some small way.
Then of course there's the fact that you didn't specify your personal belief at all in your first post, so all he had to go on was that your belief is close to the phenomenally stupid one known as Pascal's Wager.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm an Atheist and believe that nothing comes after we die. Of course, I could be wrong and get slapped in the face when I die, but I'm sure any existing deity would know that I had my reasons and not hold it against me.
Additionally, I pose a question to all in this thread. Do you really believe these things, or are you just saying what you want to happen after you die? Because to be honest, some of these are just ridiculous.
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What about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I mean, nobody's disproved him, so he must be real, right! Or how about the Geocentric Universe Theory? Spontaneous Generation?Tyler_Durden said:
As opposed to your body rotting into nothingness in the ground, with the nutrients going to other organisms?AlphaOmega said:
You start over seeing life through the next person to be born. That would explain Desa Vu pretty well.
Being in a predestined place in the ground that gets cleaned out every 10years or so. I dont see my biological fuel going anywhere usefullZombie Badger said:
Wow...I figured i'd see that somewhere on here. I think it's nothing, we just rot.Abedeus said:
