Poll: What if the new 52 version of Lobo is actually the right thing?

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runic knight

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The problem here is the lack of actual parody.
With Lobo, it is blown out of proportion absurdity. It takes the tough guy act to extreme and that makes it fun. The excess machismo is endearing enough and fun to watch.

This is not parody (least from all I have heard/seen). They seem to be playing it straight, to the point that you can't tell it is meant to be a parody to begin with. Instead, it looks like a rehash. And all the responses from dc itself seems to support that they are playing it straight and serious.

Also, even if it was an over blown parody, there is a difference between the action hero cliche of the 90's and the brooding emo hero of today. Fun. While not always the case, the action hero cliche still managed to have some characters who either had fun or were fun to watch and read about. I have yet to find anyone who can do emo loner completely straight and have it be fun or entertaining. They can be snarky or witty and be entertaining then, but at that point it moves beyond what makes the character a parody in the first place, because it actually gives them character.
I don't know, if it is meant to be parody, all I can see is over the top depression and excessive angst about how he has to live life as a monsterous killer. Parody of the whole emo hero thing, yes, but devoid of fun or charisma that redeemed Lobo's over the top action cliche.


Also, if that was their goal, just make a new damn character and don't bastardize an existing one. Or were they so unsure of the change they didn't want to risk a new property and instead had to slap the idea onto an existing name. Gee, that never goes wrong, does it?
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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Silvanus said:
Shadowstar38 said:
Lobo and Amanda Waller they just straight fucked up.
I certainly agree there. Amanda Waller was a pretty unique character, and far from a stereotype, before the New 52. The redesign, making her just another ludicrously-toned action-hero type, is just awful.

They took a major step backwards on Waller.

I'm not actually acquainted with Lobo, though, so I'll withhold judgement on his redesign.
What? You can't mess up Amanda Waller...

googles up amanda waller reboot

OH GODS! WHAT THE FUCK?

You know, the OP's theory could have made sense, but then I saw what they did to the woman who admired for being someone who really looked normal in the DC universe.
 

Shoggoth2588

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Considering that a lot of comic characters in this day and age are becoming broody, mopey bastards I think it would have been a better idea to over-emphasis Lobo as a Biker from Space: make him bigger, ruder, more crude, etc. Also colorful; yeah, motorcycle attire is generally black or brown leather but not when you're from space. The Lobo re-design could have been anything...the comics industry needs something more like Ultimate Warrior.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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This was the Lobo I last enjoyed, with plenty of replacement issues wrapped in plastic stored in a safe place:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080705084119/marvel_dc/images/d/d0/Lobo%27s_Back_3.jpg

Do you remember the time Lobo went to heaven, with the bureaucrats up there sending him back in the form of a more or less lovely lady? No?

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080705083631/marvel_dc/images/9/9c/Lobo%27s_Back_2.jpg

In short, back in the days, when you went out to get some friggin' Lobo, that was exactly what you got.

These days, it's all chicken-breasted emo leptosomes. They're growing on trees. I don't like it. If DC is serious about pulling an EA on all their franchises and assets, I won't mind them all going out of business and straight to hell. You just don't mess with the Main Man.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma4t99hGoV1ra625wo1_500.jpg
 

Lovely Mixture

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Jesus DC, you're killing me.

Instead of Dog-The-Space-Biker-Bounty-Hunter we get Nightcrawler-Deadpool-as-designed-by-Square-Enix.
 

Saltyk

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Shadowstar38 said:
If the majority of people don't get the level of complexly the artist was going for... then maybe it's not really there and this explanation was pulled from someone's ass.

It only irks me a bit. Everyone else in the reboot got updated looks but are still noticeable. Lobo and Amanda Waller they just straight fucked up.
I agree. It's a common occurrence that when an artist tries to be a bit too clever, the audience doesn't get it. If they revamped Lobo to be a parody of more modern characters, that was in error.

As I recall, the Beastie Boys made the song Fight For Your Right (To Party) as a parody of party songs. It became hugely popular and everyone loved it. They were ecstatic to see who many people were in on the joke. Until they realized that people were not in on the joke. They loved the song as a party song. They haven't played the song live since.

Moral of the story: Try to be too clever and you will outsmart your audience.
 

Hero in a half shell

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Hectix777 said:
Besides there's still a possibility that new52 Lobo could be written off as a mutated clone or a modified clone of the original Lobo, comic books are filled with these kinds of loopholes. I'm just saying that this theory makes the most sense in term of the essence of the character.
Funny thing is, the new 52 reboot was supposed to be a re-establishment of proper canon, getting away from the mess that had been going on with the constant rewrites and reboots. It was supposed to be an absolute starting point to reintroduce all the characters at the one time and sort out what was proper canon and what wasn't so anyone deciding to get into comics had a universal point that they knew to start reading from to read the canonised story of all the characters.

And they are already rewriting and rebooting characters from the reboot. That's a special type of fail.
 

Angelous Wang

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From what I have heard the Lobo is to become a slaver. Aka he is going to run around the galaxy kidnapping/enslaving aliens (and possibly humans) and then sell said slaves to other evil people.

Based on that I don't think he will have a whiny emo/twilight personalty.

I think if anything he will end up evil psychopathic AI, something like a cross between Brainiac and Darksied (pre-rebot), maybe with a bit of black humour thrown in.
 

Eliwood10

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If that's the case, why not make a whole new character? Heck, make him related to Lobo somehow. They could be estranged cousins or something. Lobo could be constantly pissed off by [Dante-Lobo's] emo, downer attitude while [Dante-Lobo] is annoyed be Lobo's boisterous, violent behavior. There's a lot of potential for comedy there with the contrast between two era's extremes.

I mean, would it kill DC to do something NEW with the NEW 52? Besides bastardizing all their properties, I mean.
 

chozo_hybrid

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Eliwood10 said:
If that's the case, why not make a whole new character? Heck, make him related to Lobo somehow. They could be estranged cousins or something. Lobo could be constantly pissed off by [Dante-Lobo's] emo, downer attitude while [Dante-Lobo] is annoyed be Lobo's boisterous, violent behavior. There's a lot of potential for comedy there with the contrast between two era's extremes.

I mean, would it kill DC to do something NEW with the NEW 52? Besides bastardizing all their properties, I mean.
I couldn't agree more. But that would mean letting an artist create a new character that DC comics may not get to own, and thus rule over.
 

bartholen_v1legacy

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I don't read DC comics, so maybe I'll have to look up more about this new Lobo to make sure, but at least judging from that design the theory doesn't hold up. It makes perfect sense and if it's true, is rather smart. But for me to really believe him to be an exaggerated parody he'd have to look more over the top. Like tossing Nathan Drake and both the new and old DMC Dante together; preferably and open shirt, smug grin, always spouting snarky one liners... ohfuckit, I don't know anything about this topic because I don't read comics so I might just make farting noises for how much I know about this.

In short: The theory seems sensible, but one'd have to see more than just one character design piece to judge it fully.
 

Zen Bard

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That's actually a GREAT theory!

But I'm way too cynical to believe the Lobo makeover is an intentional send-up of everything wrong with comics today.

First, usually when someone does a reboot, it's to "broaden its appeal". Which unfortunately seems require removing all traces of wit and cleverness from the source material. Not always...but usually.

Second, I don't think that Editor-in-Chief Bob Harass is that smart or creative. Do a search on some of the projects he's headed up in the past and you'll understand.

No, I'm afraid Harass finally did what the Universe couldn't; he killed Lobo.
 

johnzaku

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Zen Bard said:
That's actually a GREAT theory!

But I'm way too cynical to believe the Lobo makeover is an intentional send-up of everything wrong with comics today.

First, every time anyone does a reboot, it's to "broaden its appeal", which unfortunately, seems to mean "dumb it down".

Second, I don't think that Editor-in-Chief Bob Harass has that much creativity. Do a search on the projects he's headed up in the past and you'll understand.

No, I'm afraid Harass finally did what the Universe couldn't; he killed Lobo.
I'm glad I looked at his post before I hit send, because I pretty much wrote the exact same thing. I think it is an excellent theory, but based on the boss' history, it's unlikely. Time may prove you right though