Poll: What if you were forced into military?
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That would be a bity ironic though, helping a group of people who fight and kill and yet being against violence. I'd still sneak out personally.SakSak said:
I'd be in the airforce because my father was supposed to be like an air officer or something on his first day because after taking the exam he scored about a 98% or something but he was injured at a party the night before so they wouldn't let him leave, he met my mother exactly one week later....scary.
i'll join before i got drafted because if i am going to die then it's going to because i want to.
Even if I weren't female, I'd avoid joining in some way.
The country would still need people to work, otherwise the country couldn't even sustain itself. Even if all the women worked, it'd be a huge problem with all the kids of the country needing nannies and cared for. And what happens when the war is over? Those that fought go back to simple, standard jobs, and those that worked might not have one any more.
I also don't wish to kill anyone, or have a reason to. I don't like it an avoid it at all costs. I'd rather protect my family in person than be thousands of miles away, not knowing how they're doing, wondering if I'm really making a difference and improving their lives.
A parent should not have to think about burring their child, no matter how it was spent. It's no easier for kids who have to burry their parent either.
I also dislike the military in general. I'd help them, but would never join or be a part of it. My stand on the issue has nothing to do with having to obey their orders either.
The country would still need people to work, otherwise the country couldn't even sustain itself. Even if all the women worked, it'd be a huge problem with all the kids of the country needing nannies and cared for. And what happens when the war is over? Those that fought go back to simple, standard jobs, and those that worked might not have one any more.
I also don't wish to kill anyone, or have a reason to. I don't like it an avoid it at all costs. I'd rather protect my family in person than be thousands of miles away, not knowing how they're doing, wondering if I'm really making a difference and improving their lives.
A parent should not have to think about burring their child, no matter how it was spent. It's no easier for kids who have to burry their parent either.
I also dislike the military in general. I'd help them, but would never join or be a part of it. My stand on the issue has nothing to do with having to obey their orders either.
Back in the olden days, men didn't WANT women to fight. Some men still don't, and see it as a mans duty rather than a womans.ZAch055 said:
Oh, so you have a problem with women but not children? You know, if men go off and fight there has to be someone taking care of the children.
Now hold on a second. Why do you assume I don't know this? Of course the kids would need nannies, of course the fields would need plowing and power-plants mechanics to keep things running. I got nothing against women, when I was serving we had a few women who had chosen to voluntarily get military training (where I live, it's compulsory for men) and everything the did, they did better than 50% of the men around.crypt-creature said:
They were good. They had motivation. They had guts. And I'd fight alongside any of them if my country went to war.
But consider this, how many women _want_ to serve in the military? How many would vote against such a drafting law purely on principle?
And, this is just a fact of life, on _average_ (at least in my country) the generic Jane has less stamina and physical strenght than the generic John. Males do make better grunts, on average.
How large of a population (both male and female) would such a law, if it were passed, alienate from the government? Specifically when the conflict is not certain, only likely.
It is my personal thought that in the scenario I depicted in the OP, such a law of perfectly equal drafting would not pass. Too many people with too many traditional values would rise to the barricades. The politicians would now this (assuming they themselves wouldn't think it 'unmanly') and would not write such a law just yet.
Which is why the option for females was kept open, instead of locking it thight in the scenario.
Children, below voting age, would not be expected to be able to make such a choice for themselves. Therefore, the choice was be taken away, by denying them from such drafted service. Those close enough to age 18 would likely have a few years to grow up before being faced with the situation. The crisis wasn't immediate after all. Naturally those too young for military might fill up on some jobs back home. That is one of those points that is impossible to clarify to sufficient extent in the OP, notably because it wasn't the point of the poll.
Civilian service. I don't want my life endangered unless I specifically choose to endanger it and I'm not (quite) wimpy enough to run away from serving no matter how much I'd dislike it. If I was forced into combat, I would definitely try not to die, though I'm not entirely sure how that would go.
SakSak said:
Whoa now, I wasn't saying this to or about you, or even about your original post, just the person I was responding to (ZAch055) who made it seem as if women should be forced to serve as well (the sexist comments made it appear more so. If it was sarcastic that didn't register).
If it appeared that way because I'd quoted his whole post, I am sorry about that.
Whoa now, I wasn't saying this to or about you, or even about your original post, just the person I was responding to (ZAch055) who made it seem as if women should be forced to serve as well (the sexist comments made it appear more so. If it was sarcastic that didn't register).crypt-creature said:
If it appeared that way because I'd quoted his whole post, I am sorry about that.[/quote]
Sorry, appeared to me that you were responding to us both quite evenly.
Well, it did give an excuse to rant a bit more
XD for what it's worth, it was a pretty good rant.SakSak said:Sorry, appeared to me that you were responding to us both quite evenly.
Well, it did give an excuse to rant a bit more