Poll: what is stronger... hate or love?

[Durgiun]

Hate, because I've never fallen in love. Which sucks, 'cause then I'd have it all balanced out.

But goddamn, when I hate something with a passion all I can think about is destroying the source!

 

[VanityGirl]

Love is stronger, while you would die for love, you wouldn't die because you hate someone.

 

[Deadarm]

Niether of them are strong because they are both mental weaknesses.

 

[Cactuar213]

I love to hate, and hate to love. So I go with hate.

 

[RAI251]

'course it matters! Hate and love , much like good and evil, or cooperation and defection are expresions of a broader issue - how should we conduct ourselves as creatures with higher mind functions? We are in a unique position as a species in that we can read the rules of the game rather than just play it- we can't afford to let an advantage like that pass us by- how else can we keep civilisation ticking over? I for one don't want to go back to being a bunch of hairy arsed barbarians.

Although it's called prisoners dilemma, this is just an example to highlight the mechanic of what is essentialy a game theory exercise-it can be applied to many different things, from animals grooming each other to nuclear war strategy. If anyones interested this site gives a better breakdown of its applications...

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57706

I see your point and argument quite well -- and here is where I play devil's advocate: divinity and law controls what civilization is -- how it developed and how it continues to exist. Give someone incentive and they will have motivation to achieve the means to the end, right? Similar to the PD -- a simple theory which originated from antiquity (Look at B.K. Dadachanji's The Origin of Law and Legislation) is applied to any social construct, granted it is a flexible enough theory.

Love, Hate -- that's just part of the human condition; something that needs to be controlled so that we aren't barbarians -- yes. Someone else stated that these emotions are from "passion" -- I agree. See the most extreme example of a crime of passion; where someone kills over jealously, hate, etc. Without the "law" controlling us; something "God" has recognized (and this is what has been written in the literature) -- we are those very barbarians.

I ask "What does it matter" only to express my sentiment that we can sit here and debate this; from the (hopelessly) romantic to the depravedly pessimistic -- but in the end, hate and love exist just as a matter of fact; just like black and white. Of course, this is only my opinion =)

 

[skittlepie345]

Hate can take a life, but love can take a soul making it much stronger in my opinion.

 

[Daemon888]

Love -its been mathematically proven by the prisoner's dilemma. Debate over. Cheers, science...

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/prisoner-dilemma/

No offense but the Prisoner's Dilemma is all about self preservation, in some ways unintentional altruism and how it can be motivated by some circumstances. Love and hate are emotions primarily directed at another, often with complete disregard for self. If the prisoner's hated eachother or loved eachother then their choices would be easy but it is their very indifference towards the other that makes the situation interesting. Doesn't really apply here at all IMO.

Anyways, GO HATE! Still kicking ass though love did mount an unexpected second wind. Peace.

Ah, but if you apply prisoners dilemma to a wider group of people an interesting paradox occurs- if you live with people that mostly defect, everyones screwing each other over and everyone gets fined. If however, most people are cooperating, it becomes more and more tempting to defect. Once someone does, however, the trend continues and you find yourself back at the point where evryones defecting. This means the only way to build a society where you can relax, enjoy yourself and build something up is by everyone cooperating and sticking to it.

agreed and true... but this is about love and hate, emotions that are not expressed towards a "a wider group of people", they are usually inspired by a single individual in an extreme way... so again i say, awesome reference but not really applicable in this highly simplistic discussion

 

[Daemon888]

Niether of them are strong because they are both mental weaknesses.

i love it, and again... agreed

 

[Timewave Zero]

Love is fickle, and can become hate very easily.
Hate cannot become love, only in the rarest of circumstances, which are astronomically rare.

Hate is an ancient, raw feeling. Love was developed by 'civilised' society. Cavemen and pre-historic apes didn't love, they just had sex to propogate their species.

Love can be destroyed in seconds, say, by finding out your 'love' is cheating on you. Hate fills you, it becomes stronger with every second and thoughts of pure fury fill you, fed by the fuel that is hate; the rawest emotion one can feel. Save for fear, that is. Much stronger than either. As hate can stem from fear.
Fear=hate. Just like Yoda said.

 

[Sirtwitchy]

Probably hate seeing as how most marriages nowadays end in divorce

 

[Paragon Fury]

Neither.

Only those who learn to leave their emotions behind will become truly powerful.

 

[SimuLord]

Love is stronger, but it's much more fragile. You can fall out of love with someone, but hate generally lasts until the object of your hatred drops dead.

 

[Kriptonite]

I know a Revan...but no Raven.
I'm sure.
Everything is best this way, I assure you.

Life has the perfect clarity that only comes from being emotionally dead.

Wow...Ooohhkay? I'm just gonna let things stand at that...?