Poll: What is the Big Deal With Bloody Shakespeare?!?!
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Also architecture, painting, debating, *insert almost anything related to culture/arts*, but that's a moot point since they are the ancestors of our(western) civilisation.Layz92 said:
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I think his work is "Utterly brilliant!".
Pick any of the aforementioned reasons to do so, and you can be quite sure that I support it.
But it is the same thing with Ovid, Goethe, Dante and other great writers:
If you can't even use proper language, at least to some point of mediocrity, there is no way of understanding. And you, sir, have proven to not even being able to do so.
Saying you don't like Shakespeare is a little bit like saying you don't like the blues if you're a fan of ANYTHING under the rock or metal subgenre of music. His work inspired generations of writers to come, like Southern blues and gospel music did for rock and roll. The reason most people don't see 'what it's all about' these days is the same reason that blues isn't the most popular genre of music - our writing evolved, changing our tastes as it did.
Shakespeare was one of the greatest literary minds of his generation, and there are some timeless and wonderfully constructed passages in a lot of his work. It's tough to read in the 21st century because we're used to the phrasing and language of this period of history, but if you bother to look there is some great stuff.
For your evaluation, I give you a monologue by Puck at the end of A Midsummer Night's Dream:
If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended-
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend.
If you pardon, we will mend.
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long.
Else the Puck a liar call.
So good night unto you all.
Give me your hands if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.
Shakespeare was one of the greatest literary minds of his generation, and there are some timeless and wonderfully constructed passages in a lot of his work. It's tough to read in the 21st century because we're used to the phrasing and language of this period of history, but if you bother to look there is some great stuff.
For your evaluation, I give you a monologue by Puck at the end of A Midsummer Night's Dream:
If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended-
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend.
If you pardon, we will mend.
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to 'scape the serpent's tongue,
We will make amends ere long.
Else the Puck a liar call.
So good night unto you all.
Give me your hands if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.
Well you are basing your opinion one one book. That's like basing all of Steven Spielberg's films having only watched War of the Worlds.interspark said:
I didn't like Macbeth but Loved Julius Ceasar and Henry V, they are amazing.
That being said, if you don't have much of a talent for English or a strong imagination you won't get a good understanding of Shakespeare to start with unless you go watch an actual play done by real thespians.
he's a pretty interesting person, but the way the dialogue was back is so hard to understand today. It makes my brain hurt.
I find that "best" is a subjective term. They are his most famous and in my opionion, his best. But that's all it is, my opinion. You may have different views to mine but I rather like those twoWolfThomas said:
PS: Damn. I forgot to say Julius Caesar. Thanks for reminding me =)
At the time it wa written? Brilliant. Now? Well, some of it didn't quite hold up.
Will has one of the most annoying fanbases ever, which makes it even harder to like.
Will has one of the most annoying fanbases ever, which makes it even harder to like.
I think they're boring as hell to read, but a lot of fun to watch (provided the actors know what they're doing--it can be painful to watch if the actors don't know what they're saying). Plays are meant to be watched, not read, and you miss a lot of the humor if you're just reading.interspark said:
Dr. Awesomeface:
I think that's the point. The "good guys" are actually the villains, who lie and cheat to get out of keeping their promises (because to them Shylock is just "the Jew," and so it doesn't matter if they cheat him). The ending is just them continuing to act like lying, cheating, bigoted jerks (which is not Deus Ex Machina, since this is set up earlier in the play). You're supposed to leave the play thinking it was a cop-out, because it was.
Well, for starters, he coined words that you can't even imagine the English language without today.
Accused, hint, assassination, and tons of others.
Also...actually, I'm not even going to continue, because trying to explain to you why "Bloody Shakespear" is such a "Big Deal" would be like trying to explain astrophysics to a horse.
You saucy fellow...
Accused, hint, assassination, and tons of others.
Also...actually, I'm not even going to continue, because trying to explain to you why "Bloody Shakespear" is such a "Big Deal" would be like trying to explain astrophysics to a horse.
You saucy fellow...
he sucks to be quite frank every single one of his plays don't really make a lot of sense and some of the stuff that happens in said plays make no fricking sense
Ex 1: Romeo and Juliet see each other 1 i repeat 1 time and suddenly they are willing to die for each other and cause a massive war of families
Ex 2: Macbeth, the instant he gets pat on the back from the king, he starts thinking on how to kill him and take the throne for himself
Ex 3: Both of these dudes are bitches
In the end, Mr. William is one of the most overated writers around and hell a nice chunk of people don't even think he really wrote half of his plays
Ex 1: Romeo and Juliet see each other 1 i repeat 1 time and suddenly they are willing to die for each other and cause a massive war of families
Ex 2: Macbeth, the instant he gets pat on the back from the king, he starts thinking on how to kill him and take the throne for himself
Ex 3: Both of these dudes are bitches
In the end, Mr. William is one of the most overated writers around and hell a nice chunk of people don't even think he really wrote half of his plays
It saved me typing that out. Well done.CJ1145 said:
OT: My god, this is just another "Am I the only one" thread quite cleverly disguised.
PEOPLE LIKE HIS WORK. You might not.
You don't like Barbie (I hope), other people do, but you're not making a thread about that are you?
No, it isn't just that you don't like his work, is it? It's because you can't be bothered/actually can't read the words he uses. I'm not talking about the fact that it's older-modern English (Not old), but because you can't read anything with more than three syllables, can you?
Of course, your idea of a good book HAS to have some big explosions and zombies in, doesn't it? Oh, and you mustn't forget the sex scene. THAT has to be in there somehow.
However, anyone who likes the work of a man so famous that he had a whole time period named after him MUST be boring and stuffy.
That's just bloody brilliant.
Oh, next time, try spelling his name right.
Rant over.
Sorry, I got a bit carried away there.
ive been able to understand shakespeare since i was like, 8U71L7Y_F0RMUL4 said:
and I think he's pretty awesome
Shakespeare was incredibly talented, and crafted stories that not only appealed to the monarchs and nobles, but to the lowly peasants as well. Obviously, as pointed out in the first reply, you are an ignorant boob who doesn't deserve Shakespeare.
You obviously haven't read the sauce. For example, in Romeo & Juliet, the families don't discover their love until after both are dead. This realization actually ends the feud, thus crafting a bittersweet ending.tmdude said:
Of course, since neither books have explosions, giant robots, elves, or zombies in it, they must not make any sense whatsoever.