Poll: What would you ban?

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KurtNiisan

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Khell_Sennet said:
Ok. I'm going to compare all this to an Anime movie...

KITE

In the movie Kite, the main character is a pre-teen to early-teen girl who is essentially a slave to the bastard who murdered her parents. She is violently raped numerous times in the film, and it is actually shown, not just alluded to. Yes this movie has graphic sexual content, but to censor it out would ruin the movie. It is NOT a porno, it is very much about the story of this girl's life, and to cut out the rape, is to cut out the entire reasoning why she ends up doing all that she does in the film.

The rape in the movie is part of the plot. If it were just an add-in for no reason beyond perverse pornography then fine, censor it out. The same applies to games, if the taboo content is part of the game because it is part of the plot then don't fracking censor it.
- Yes, but have you taken into account that there is in fact multiple censored versions of the Kite film? Germany was the only country to release an uncut copy outside of Japan, until the US did in 2006 (I believe?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_%28anime%29
 

Girlysprite

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A little side track here, but many people say something in the lines of 'people can blow off steam in such games so they will not do such things in real life'. I always wondered if this had some scientific backup, if any research has done for such an effect. I know I have read about a research that people who blow off steam in another way when they are angry, by boxing, throwing stuff around and cursing stayed angry much longer then people who managed to count to 10.
 

Fire Daemon

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PurpleRain said:
Holy crap. The the way the polls add: Everything combind together (not including the last) is at 37. 42 votes say that baby killing, terrorist attacks, rape, torture, school massacres and sexual violence is too soft core. I'm starting to worry about you lot.
Where not saying its softcore, where saying that banning media is wrong. But I think that this type of games should be banned to people under 15. Showing 12 year olds graphic violence and pornography is plain wrong. and because 12 year olds will find their way to this game after a time. So hence I'm saying that these games should be banned as a precution against those that should not play these games.

Although I beleive that banning media is wrong I think that not enough parents put enough effort into controlling what videogames their kids are playing. So I think that games like the one in the poll should not be made, and if they are made then parents should be held respsonsible for letting their kids playing these games and receive a fine and go to forced parenting lessons. pretty much making extreme violent (and sexual) games illegal for people are not old enough to play them.

Maybe that way people can stop saying that games are "warping" young children.
 

Drong

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Well be glad you don't live in the UK, our government here's answer is ban anything and everything, handguns went about 7 years back (you could only have them with a license before that but then they banned them all regardless to stop gun crime...which has gone up every year since ;P)

Manhunt 2 is still banned (the appeal was overturned)

spam was banned (ok i'm not going to argue with that one)

Samurai swords are getting banned in april

most fireworks are banned

The smoking ban

And they even banned the i-pod radio add on! there's lot more I just can't think off the top of my head, all you ever seem to hear on the news is "so & so politician calls for a ban"
 

Sylocat

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Last time I checked, it's up to the audience to choose what games to play, and it's up to the parents to decide what games their children can play. If parents can't take responsibility for what their kids see on TV, that's not the fault of a games manufacturer.
 

Nameless One

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The choises are stupid. They imply that there necessarily has to be a point where we censor people. I don't think any of those things are soft core and I wouldn't want to play a game with any of them present but that doesn't mean that I get to tell others what they should and should not create or watch. The problem is that the original poster considers himself , intellectually, ethically and/or morally superior to others and therefore proclaims that he or she is in the position to tell others what is right and wrong. I'm sorry for not jumping on your Everything-I-Dislike-Should-Be-Banned-Because-I-Know-Better-Than-You bandwagon but censorship is for dictatorships.
 

Mister_moi

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Fire Daemon said:
PurpleRain said:
Holy crap. The the way the polls add: Everything combind together (not including the last) is at 37. 42 votes say that baby killing, terrorist attacks, rape, torture, school massacres and sexual violence is too soft core. I'm starting to worry about you lot.
Where not saying its softcore, where saying that banning media is wrong. But I think that this type of games should be banned to people under 15. Showing 12 year olds graphic violence and pornography is plain wrong. and because 12 year olds will find their way to this game after a time. So hence I'm saying that these games should be banned as a precution against those that should not play these games.

Although I beleive that banning media is wrong I think that not enough parents put enough effort into controlling what videogames their kids are playing. So I think that games like the one in the poll should not be made, and if they are made then parents should be held respsonsible for letting their kids playing these games and receive a fine and go to forced parenting lessons. pretty much making extreme violent (and sexual) games illegal for people are not old enough to play them.

Maybe that way people can stop saying that games are "warping" young children.
banning is games to make sure young kids dont play it is wrong, but giving parents a fine and forced lessons is ever worse. I can understand when u say that the parents are responsible but there not in full control of their kids lives. Kids will always find their ways to get a game wich u want to punish by giving the parents a fine, it would make more sence to give the kids a fine for possesing certain games. Its ok to stop kids from getting their hands on certain games but this a litle to extreme for me.
 

BigNiceJohn

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Video games are an art form. It's no different from sculpture, music, movies, books, or graphic novels. Anything that gets made (and I was a clerk in a porno store for a while, so I do mean ANYTHING) will find an audience, and as long as a law isn't being broken in making a work of art, I have no problem with it. Games now, require so much time and money to go from idea to something playable, that above all, the game experience has to make money. Hype won't make a bad game money, but it can help a decent game make more money. So, at worse, you have an ok game with some content you might disapprove of.

If you make a game about gang banging baby killers, it had better be a damn good game, because unless it's a stellar gaming experience, the game is going to be a total loss for its' developer. The market can censor itself.
 

Cooper42

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Meh. I went on some rant about socially aware art and justifying it. Then realised that's not what I mean.

I would /prefer/ it if using those motifs was socio-culturally or historically justified (as it is in most 'art' which mobilise them). But, at the end of the day, I'm pretty much against any form of censorship in any form.

If you can write about it, paint it or make a film depicting it (as fake as may be) there's no reason a game shouldn;t be made on it. (Though whether it'd be good is another question entirely)